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I'd like to start off this thread by saying that the pistols, rifles and shotguns that I recommend are, and always will be, from my own experience of using them and by popular opinion from regular users on here, other forums and other reputable sources. This thread will also be updated over time. The amount of threads I keep seeing about this subject literally popping up every other week is getting a tad bit annoying, so, I figured I'd create this thread to save people from repeating themselves. So, you're a new player looking for a decent gun hmm? You have a set budget for a gun that will be suitable for skirmishing and won't break anytime soon. If you have a budget of £20 - £60, these guns will do just fine. Primarily gas and spring. - Any Double Eagle/AGM single-shot shotgun: These things have good range with .25g BB's and don't shoot above site limits, for around £30 you can't go wrong. Bison shotguns are a good option if you prefer a different look. - Any Double Eagle tri-shot shotgun: Like the single-shot shotguns, these also have good range but cost slightly more (around £50.) Do not purchase the Marui tri-shots new because, personally, the quality is on par with the Double Eagle tri-shots, not worth above £100. Cyma make metal tri-shot shotguns with folding stocks, full stocks, stockless and all metal or polymer for under or a bit over £100 depending on the model. G&P shotguns are outdated and overpriced, avoid. - ASG, KJWorks, HFC MK23: Absolutely the best gas pistol for under £70, very efficient, accurate and cheap to buy. The included 'silencer' will increase the FPS, try to find the Marui silencer to make it deadly silent. - Cyma AEP's: Like the MK23, these AEPs are excellent for the money, reliable gearboxes, some upgrade options out there on sites such as Eagle6 and Firesupport, magazines are very cheap, LiPo kits are also available and are a worthy upgrade. - HFC gas pistols: These are OK for around £30, average accuracy and gas efficiency, plastics used aren't great BUT the pistols are rugged enough for skirmishing, but they won't stand up to long-term use, consider saving up for the MK23. If you have a budget of £60 - £100, this is an ok budget for a gun. - KJWorks P226, Glocks, M9s and 1911s: These guns are absolutely solid, will last a long time if taken care of. Good kick, average gas efficiency due to metal construction, fully Marui compatible. These are capable of using Co2, but is strongly advised due to inconsistent FPS. Magazines are poor quality and WILL leak during your ownership, replacing them with Marui magazines is advised. The paint that is used is very easily chipped. - WE Glocks, P226, M9s, XDMs and PX4's: Like KJWorks pistols, these pistols are very solid performers and are reliable, average gas efficiency and good range. Avoid purchasing second hand, these pistols are usually very well used in their lifetime, check the condition of the pistol before considering purchasing. The Glocks are slightly fatter than the real thing, so as such, they do not fit most plasic holsters, either trim the holster or purchase an adjustable cloth holster. The paint on the pistols is slightly better than the KJWorks, but will still easily be scratched off. - ASG Dan Wesson revolvers: These guns are reliable, but have no hop up, so they lack range. Only capable of holding 6 rounds, these are not suitable for skirmishing due to the lack of range and the inconsistent FPS. Good, realistic backyard plinkers for collectors. - JG Skorpion, Mac 10: These are very reliable and rugged AEP's, clones of the Marui so plenty of upgrade options and magazines online from sites such as Eagle6. You will be outgunned by regular AEG's such as Combat Machines however due to the small gearbox and weak motor. Will make a decent side arm if using a high-capacity magazine. - Well R4 & R2: Decent AEP's, on par with JG. Clones of the Marui, so upgrade options are available. The plastic Well use for the AEPs are very poor, and will shatter under heavy use. The R4's magazine release will snap if used a lot, so take care. Please consider the JG over the Well if possible. If you have a set budget from £100 - £200, the options are essentially endless. This is the budget you need for a good reliable gun. Spring guns aren't included on this list as you'll end up spending more than you'll realise when you end up upgrading them. AEGS: - Any: G&G Combat Machines/GC16, Cyma AK's/Mp5's/M14's, JG G36/AUG/AK's/G3s, ICS M4's/Mp5's(Sportline)/AK's/G33/Sigs/Mx5's, Classic Army Mp5's/M4's/AK's/P90, SRC G36's, ASG Sten-gun/MP40/MP44/AUGs(JG)/M14(Cyma), APS AK's, King Arms P90 and D-Boys KAC/AK's. Pistols: - Any: Tokyo Marui gbb pistols! Their Hi-capas, Glocks, M9's and 1911's have the most after market parts. KWA/KSC pistols are also very good, the Glocks are extremely robust apart from the full auto versions due to their weak fire selector. Marui pistols will work fine on propane/green gas, though I wouldn't recommend using propane/green gas in them on warm days, stick to HFC gas instead. KWA/KSC gbb's have inferior hop up designs, as the 'nub' that is used to apply pressure is just a tiny ball bearing, whereas in the Marui pistols, they use VSR buckings and regular nubs. "Why aren't sniper rifles/DMR's included?" . Spring guns aren't included on this list as you'll end up spending more than you realise when you start upgrading them to 'outperform everyone on the field'. DMR's are just AEG's; put an oversized scope on an unweildy rifle and you've got a DMR. If you have a set budget above £200 to £300, any AEG will do. Consider Krytac AEG's as they're very well shimmed and have excellent air compression. If you like realism, try gas blowback rifles such as WE/GHK/KJWorks, the WE's will definitely require upgrading for long-term use, also consider HPA use for consistency (or Tippman M4's). If you don't like the idea of buying gas but still want the realism, consider the Marui recoil shock series or CTW's. Hope this helps!

,I was around 16 stone few years ago and over the years it been hard to shift the weight, I started running so I when airsoft with my son I could keep up and have fun without dying from exhaustion. So, over this year I have been running more and more, I started out slow from couch to 5K and in June I did my first race for life 10k event its so good getting across the finish line. I can now run the 10k distance without stopping and my current weight dropped to 13.4 stone at age 40 right now. Thanks.

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That's my pet hate too, I hate it when I've got someone screaming in my face "COME ON PUSH UP, GET MOVING, MAKE SOME EFFORT YOU USELESS TUB OF LARD" I hate Saturday nights with the missus😭

As some of you asked for fotos of my collection, I took a few pics 🙂 We restored a house a few years ago and I got the rare opportunity to turn a room into my personal little "museum". The only downside: The showcases are full already... 😅 As mentioned in the new members thread, I'm a collector for quite some time now and I'm interested in anything that's odd / old / rare / shellejecting / japanese / gasdriven in general and recently got a knack for a bit more steel here and there. Unfortunately, the showcases in the middle still lack lighting 😑 Disclaimer: Everything in that room is legal and according to german laws, the guns themselves aswell as the showcases, which are locked, when I'm not there. The guns outside the showcases are 0.5 joules, so they don't fall under german gun laws, but are categorized as toys.

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Less cunts

No school like the old school

You could say the big reveal was an anti-Qlimax. I'll get my coat.

Chasing that new toy? Need a new plate carrier for an “impression”, want to be adorned in the latest forward observations group drip? It happens to us all, we get lost down the rabbit hole, looking for that perfect load out, that ultimate “thing” that will make us the envy of Instagram / insert site name here…it costs time, it costs money…it can cost a lot more. If you’re struggling, talk to somebody…today I nearly lost a friend who is thousands upon thousands of pounds in debt, all from trying to impress everybody else. Is everybody doing ok? Vent here if you need, just remember it’s a game, don’t sink yourself financially trying to keep up, I’m guilty of it and I imagine there are quite a few others here too.

So I played about with a hk53

So an update. The British collection so far. Law 66 L115A1 (Aw338) L100A1 (G3A4) L85A2/L123A2 l85A2 TES L128A1 (M1014 shotgun) L74A1 (870 shotgun) L91A1 (MP5 SD) L7A2 GPMG L108A1 (MK1 Minimi) L1A1 SLR Colt model 715 (C7) L119A1 SFW L119A1 CQB L92A1 (MP5 A3 embassy seige) L131A1 (Glock 17 gen 4) L105A2 (P226R) L9A1 (Browning HI Power) L85A2 (3 Para 2008) Colt model 725 (C8) L105A1 (P226 non railed) L22A2 L86A2

Hey guys just finished my gun room , yes it’s my downstairs W/C but still adds something different

In a time of austerity the airsoft community needs to take the hit as well and do what it can to help. Having seen the sheer number of used BBs just lying unwanted on the ground I have decided to start collecting them up and will selling bottles of used BBs at discounted prices. Each bottle will contain genuine used BBs in a variety colours and weights from all major and minor manufacturers. Unlimited stock levels for one additional free bottle with each order just quote you UKARA license number. Key advantages as follows: Colour mix - great for confusing the opposition team into thinking there are more players shooting at them because of all the different colours. Tracer BBs included at no extra cost. Hassle free hop set-up - mixed weights will mean that there will always be some BBs in each bottle perfectly suited to your gun, simples. Aerodynamic performance - some BBs may have small dents and dimples just like golf balls and so they will fly further and faster than smooth BBs! Environmentally friendly - used BBs save the planet's plastic resources and is an example of true recycling (supported by European Green parties). Nearly new condition - used BBs are almost as good as new ones, having only been fired once so mint condition, a real bargain. Proven track record - used BBs have already been fired which proves that they are fully working. So, if you want to receive your bottle of used BBs (as well as help save the environment and do your bit for austerity) then click the LIKE button. [Note: if you think this is a serious thread, then please read it again, and reset your sarcasm filter. ]

End of the day, z/wagner shit is claiming hundreds+ lives every day, even today, on both sides, & let's not forget that some of those Russians aren't there out of choice, & others may have gone there having been misled by the dictatorships "free" media & state propaganda. On that basis, no site should be allowing these patches to be worn on gamedays, in 30+ years you might get away with them being part of a viable loadout (but I doubt it), but in 2023 they're just symbols of oppression & murder on a massive scale.

The British Forces Collection family updated..... Row 1. Row 2. Row 3 L115A3. L108A1. L7A2 GPMG L86A2. L119A1 CQB. L100A1 (G3) L85A2 UGL. L119A1 SFW. L91A1 (A3) L85A2 TES. Model 723. L92A1 (SD) L85A2. Model 715. L128A1 L22A2. L1A1 SLR. L74A1 LAW 66 Pistols L9A1 (hi power) L105A1 (sas crw P226) L105A2 (UOR P226) L131A1 (gen 4 glock)

My "stuff" was getting everywhere, so I picked up a cheap secondhand bookcase and turned it into a Airsoft storage unit 🙂

Treat your RIF like your genitals, don't get it out in public, don't wave it about where neighbors can see and don't be a dick! The only time you should have it out is when your in the woods with strangers. ....Oh no this metaphor was a bad choice

I hear he barely ever mentions the Embassy balcony.

Don't join any Facebook airsoft groups and ask for advice, it's filled with cunts Stay here, it's nicer

Well, thats another quarantine project done. Introducing the HK 417a2. It started life as two G28s; G28 LE #227 and G28 standard #IDontCareEnoughToCheck. #227 was my original G28 LE that Ive had for awhile, but it just kind of sat around as it was heavy, loud, and comparatively ineffective at range compared to my other DMRs. I wanted to upgrade it, but I wasn't sure what to do. Then comes the standard. I bought the standard off a secondhand airsoft app in November of 2019. It was a bastardization of a 417 and G28 - G28 receivers, grip, and outer barrel, but 417 buffer tube, stock, and rail. I didnt really care as it was dirt cheap and already had some decent upgrades in it. Turns out I should have cared, as not a month later the lower receiver cracked. Real bad. It may be repairable but itll be obvious. So I was left with a semi-upgraded but broken G417 and a stock G28 LE. Now, between these two I built a 417 for a mate. I believe I posted it here, but it involved making a custom fitting to mount a PTS UBR stock to it. I looks good, and works well. It also gave me some experience building 417s that I didn't have before, and it gave me an appreciation for the "Battle Rifle" class of weapon. Essentially, a BR is a carbine-length DMR. This would include short-barreled AR-10s, Scar mk17s, etc. In airsoft you follow rifleman rules. It just looks fancier. Around this time I started toying with the idea of creating my own BR, but in typical Spaz fashion it had to kind of stand out. Knowing how much of a pain VFC mk17s are to upgrade, I shied away from them, but 417s are expensive, with an approx $450 price tag. Add in the $500ish in internals I would have to do to field it and things weren't looking too good on that front either... Plus, there arent many aftermarket externals for the VFC 417s, and my squadmate already runs the one I built him. Then this broken G28 shows up and I had an idea... Until this year, I always preferred my guns having a dedicated setup. My M27 stays as it is, its sights are zeroed, I dont pull attachments from other guns, etc. However, with me recently turning my VFC Jag Arms PHX-15 SBR (see previous page) into a hybrid Krytac LMG with a second upper, I started thinking of doing the same with my G28 LE. I mean, if I built a lower based around trigger response why wouldn't it work in a DMR as well as a BR? So I began working on it. In this period I saw the news from SHOT that HK had revamped their 417 program into a new model - the HK 417a2. Shiny, new, not made in airsoft to date, and best of all - in RAL8000, just like my spare G28 receivers. So to begin I stripped the 417 sniper parts off the standard and sold them. No need for them, so why not. Ill make someone else happy. Bought a 417 short rail off someone selling one. Ordered a short outer barrel and gas impingement system from VFC. Started asking for quotes from various techs I trust on AEG gearboxes. Started looking into HPA as well, cause why not. Decided to go HPA as it'd be about the same cost, and more importantly, much quieter. Ordered a REVO kit from Italy (3D printed kit that allows the G28 to take aftermarket triggers, more HPA engines, standard M4 hops, and more). Ordered one of the new Wolverine Reaper Gen 2 Premium engines. Ordered a speed trigger, the internals needed to make the revo kit work, and an r-hopped barrel from the guy I always get my barrels from. Then it was onto externals. Ordered a fully trademarked Eotech XPS, G33 magnifier, KAC irons (closest I could find to gen 2 HK 417 irons - wasnt going to pay that much for the real thing - the rear sight alone is $300...), a Magpul AFG, a Surefire M600DF, and one of my signature blue-lasered PEQs. Rail arrived, and it sent it off with another project that will be unveiled here soon to be cerakoted in RAL8000. Rail returns, and most attachments come in. Decide I need a case, so pick up a Eylar 53in rifle case. Big, but i figured I'd need it. Case arrives, REVO kit arrives, Reaper arrives, bipod ordered and arrives. Install what I can, but Im still waiting for the order from VFC. Rest of the externals come in. Barrel from VFC finally arrived this morning, so in it went, gun went together, foam was plucked, and the HK 417a2/G28 project was complete. Now I can switch back and forth from G28 or 417a2 on the field depending on the role I want to play. The REVO kit also allows for full auto, so if the game allows it that is available. A fun project, a real head-turner (I hope), and it should have excellent range and accuracy. Im happy. Every part that should be is also trademarked, which really adds to the overall look.

Here is my child - Umarex/VFC G28 GBBR. I also have no money left. It has taken a long time to piece this thing together but man, it is one hell of a rifle!

Props to Finius for this.

Good news! They have release the parcels

It was dry this weekend so the rattle cans came out!

Another H&K recently added into the mix

Guarder kit arrived for the V-10 , another successful drop in with zero fettling required

So been working on this bad boy. Still not finished. But its getting there... So it's an ares A3 Managed to fit the angry gun mlok rail to it. Added the C Reinforcement sections. Hka3 added to rear. LLM03 3d printed Not seen in pic is the QR codes added to both sa80 and os4. Still to do; Laser engraved the os4 Make a pressure pad and 3d print the coupling. Weather it all.

Hey, I want to introduce you to a personal friend of mine... Peak nerd.

Ran our first game at the Trenches we've been building for the last year the other weekend! The theme was Gallipoli - our fictionalised battle of 'Hellespont', so I was running shorts and Pith Helmet with my WW1 kit... (Yes I regretted the shorts) One of the best moment was being held hostage by an enemy officer... I'd been ordered to guard him, as we had taken him prisoner in a raid. However, during an attack I was too busy killing two of the attackers to see him draw his pistol, no one had disarmed him! He almost made it out of our trenches before anyone noticed, but someone managed to shoot him in the shoulder past me, giving me the chance to grab his pistol! I then proceded to kill a further two attackers with it! (Photo credits to Crafty Sniper Photography) (The full kit, had the tunic on in morning as it was quite chilly)

Retro rifles 👌

Armour from Sam over at Apextech UK Helmet from USACyberpunk on Etsy RIF is the ARES KEL Tec RDB Edited on Photoshop

Thought I ought to do an updated 2022 collection photo... Got some of my grail guns that I thought I'd never get my grubby mits on!

Ive finally finished my WE apache k CQB build and its come out better than i dared to hope.

Liking the shottie holster! Finally with Christmas play time managed to finish what I’m calling an AK105-VSU. Tried and hopefully succeeded in painting it in such a way it works with both the GZ and RG load outs 🤞

I actually think they should double the minimum age. No under 25's, at least a three day induction course, six months of banks statements and a permission slip signed by your wife/partner. If you're not married/living with your partner, you can't play. Save the space for those of us who have a legitimate reason to leave the house at 6am on a weekend.

A couple of Vickers I made for a EH show a few years back

Hello guys, something from Czech republic ... (Vector 21, LLM-vr .. replica) More photos ... https://www.facebook.com/BW371/ or https://www.instagram.com/371jgbkvh

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Not so much an airsoft day but more of a nearly finished building our own private killhouse 🤪 Nearly a years hard graft has gone into building our own private killhouse between 5 of us with some help from others, rain, snow and the cold we put this up by ourselves Looking forward to running the beta test day next Sunday the 27th

Latest arrival GHK SIG 553 Bloody hell it’s SOLID Full steel construction, the only thing not steel is the aluminium top rail The Ceracote finish is lovely, more a green/grey than grey Cant wait to try this out tomorrow😍

Diemaco collection. Model 715 (C7) Model 725 (C8) L119A1 Sfw L119A1 cqb Both L119's are still WIP. So I know there's a few errors.

Clickbait title, poor quality content, airsoft drama. Kicking Mustang is that you?

Personally I totally agree with the players that complained to the Marshals and believe this should be dealt with in the strongest possible terms. Why do I feel so strongly on this issue, Two reasons: First it’s a matter of player safety. If a player is allowed to get away with this behaviour then the only realistic way for the enemy team to react is to treat everyone doing the ‘dead mans walk’ as a live player and open fire. This is going to lead to massive over shooting/over killing on the poor sods who are genuinely ‘dead’ and actually making the slog back to the safe zone/respawn. Yes there is an argument that dead players should have pistols holstered and hand/rifle in the air, but the reality is this only happens until they have withdrawn from the firefight that killed them and is impractical if the terrain is even moderately uneven and the respawn is more than about 50 yards away, particularly on larger sites where there can be multiple engagements between where a player ‘died’ and the respawn. Secondly, it is completely unrealistic and against the spirit of the game in an honesty based system that is intended to mimic engagements with firearms. It is not being clever or sneaky it is just as dishonest as players who don’t take their hits, in fact more so as there is no possible argument that the offending player may not have felt a BB at the end of its range that hits a bit of gear. It is straight out gaming the mechanics of the system.

@Airsoft Anonymous Ltd actually have a service where you can request a little cardboard certificate that congratulates you on your "Prize". Brilliant

At ACEAIRSOFT last weekend...weather was shitty, but was still an awesome day with some fun scenarios. Since starting airsoft back in Sep'17 and throwing myself into my favourite hobby (Used as coping mechanism after losing my old man) My health has improved tenfold and I've lost 5stone in weight and still heading in the right direction. I love Airsoft......

Ok, so this is just a little spin off but I intend to make this a detailed review of this absolutely shitty gun. Intro So I saw some people on this site who owns a Double Eagle M901c, the shorter compact version of the M900A. So i thought I might as well do a review before someone else makes the mistake of buying this awful gun. So you may be thinking, "Why did you buy this gun? Why not a G&G raider or an SRC?" Reason being is that I didn't know much about those brands at the time, plus the website I bought this from said it had a metal gearbox.... and I was lured right into the booby trap. I asked my mum to buy it for me. It normally would have costed £120 on those shitty websites like JBBG or BBguns4less but luckily the website I bought it from sold it for only £60 which was what lured me into it. As this was my VERY first AEG, I did not know what to expect, so I kind of trusted the "metal gearbox" it claimed to have.... What's in the box man? So, when the royal mail man knocked on the door with a box, I was so excited to see if it was my gun, and it was. But seconds later, my sister got a phone call that her friend died.... nasty coincidence... but nevertheless, I took the box upstairs and left it there on my bed and went to my sister's room along with my mum to comfort her. But an hour and a half later, when my sister stopped crying, I came back to gun, excited to see what lies beneath the wrapper. I tore the brown paper apart like a beast and I saw the gun box; There was a picture of their product on the box and a sentence at the top saying " AUTO . SEMI", "Automatic Electric Gun" and "Enhanced Hop Up System"... Yeh right. And some chinese which I could read. (obviously). So, when I first opened the box, I saw the AK47 with my face just going, "Omg, wow, my first AEG is sitting right in front of me". And since it was my first AEG, I didn't really know what's good or bad but it looked just damn amazing despite the horrible two tone orange. So in the box is a metal high cap magazine is of decent quality; it's still working as of now, an "alright" sling although i'd never use it, a shitty 1050 mAH nickel metal hydride battery, a shitty bag of BBs, a.... well, decent charger that i'm still using, and a decent manual which has some chinglish but tells you what you need to know with both versions. Oh yeh! And I also forgot to mention some decent safety glasses you get with it! Quality Of The Stuff At first, it felt so good to be able to hold an AK47 in my hand since it is a 1 to 1 scale. It's not the heaviest gun at 3kg but it has some weight to it. The plastic on the gun is, well, a little shiny and you can clearly see the seams in the stock but the overall plastic doesn;t feel too cheap, I mean, it can withstand a little bit of force, but not a full force whack on a tree stump. But overall, it feel smooth in your hands but if you have sweat on your hands, it'll slip of the hand guard easily. As you can see, it has so much orange that it makes everyone want to puke. That's right, it's a puke machine. So this gun is just your standard AK, hop up is where the bolt is, Ak selector switch, trigger guard, AK mag etc. There isn't that much metal on it... but nevertheless, the metal parts are: the dust cover, trigger, trigger guard, bolt, outer barrel, selector switch, magazine, and.... that's about it, not that much and the dust cover also feels like cheap pot metal which I could probably cut with scissors. The Dreaded Gearbox Oh god, this part of the review.... So, on every single feckin website, they claimed it to have a "metal gearbox", THAT'S RIGHT! A EFFIN METAL GEARBOX. BUT when I opened the gun a bit, I saw this: Seriously? What the fudging hell is that? IT'S A PLASTIC GEARBOX! PLASTIC I SAY! So I was very disappointed after seeing this but at that time, I never knew Double Eagle was a shitty brand. After many hours of tinkering and taking apart my very first AEG, I finally got to the gearbox. Took a while but i did it. I felt proud. And it looked like this.... As you can see, it has a plastic shell but a metal motor cage and metal selector switches which I think is pretty decent. When I took off the motor, I got to this stage. So, with my newbie level of gearbox knowledge, I decided to go ahead and open the gearbox. I had no idea what was in it or how it worked so I kinda just tore off the gearbox cover... and the inevitable happened... The whole thing just blew up; the spring jumped out, the spring guide flew out my room and down the stairs, pieces went everywhere because of that. Washers, bushing, gears flew all over the place and the anti-reversal latch flying into my face. I was just like, "What the fudge just happened...." So I took my time to collect everything that fell out and piece it back together roughly like the photo above. I had no idea how the anti reversal latch went back on or the trigger assembly. But during that time, I had a little look at the parts. The gearbox has; plastic gears (obv), metal washers, plastic bushings, a shitty piston head, a shitty ported piston cylinder with has almost no air seal with the piston head, plastic string guide and an M100 spring but I believe the spring is stronger than that due to tests. It took almost 5 hours for me to piece this piece of crap back together because of the stupid anti-reversal latch kept jumping out. So after two days of firing and putting about maybe 1200 BBs through it, I couldn't hear the gears moving and I only heard the motor whirring away... so i opened the gun back up again and this is what I discovered: A shitty motor with a METAL pinion gear, a strong spring and plastic gears, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT, THE GEARS TORE THEMSELVES APART. Especially the bevel gear which was almost toothless like your average gramps who drinks tonnes of coke and smokes through 50 packets a day. The shredded bevel gear So i immediately bought a metal gear set from Airsoft-Club which arrived in 3-4 days I think, as I put those parts in... anti reversal latch didn't fit in partly because it was a set FOR AN M4. SO, immediately bought an AK47 specific bevel gear from airsoft club which arrived in good condition, placed it in and viola! It finally worked! But then i realised, the M4 sector gear wasn't compatible with the AK tappet plate...... ARGGGHHHH!!! WHY ARE YOU MAKING MY LIFE SO DIFFICULT?!?!?!?!? The gearbox with the M4 sector gear Went back to the Airsoft club website and bought an AK47 sector gear, it arrived and bingo! It worked fine. JESUS, so much hard work! So after some more buying of parts; spring guide, it finally worked but one thing. The trigger response was awfully slow, the sound of grinding metal was even more painful than white noise or your bully teacher scratching her vivid nails onto a dirty chalk board. So yeh, I was guessing the spur was doing that. It honestly took almost a second for a full revolution of the sector gear. It was that horrible. I lived with the pain and agony for about 4 months before I finally sacked it and for my birthday, I got a CYMA CM02 metal gearbox and a CYMA hop up chamber with a bucking from Airsoft club. The pain was finally gone, I could finally rest in peace with a decent gearbox in my gun... BUT NO. THE STUPID DOUBLE EAGLE AK47 BODY WAS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CYMA GEARBOX. The beautiful metal gearbox When I discovered this, I was like "OMG! WTF HAVEN'T I SUFFERED ENOUGH????!!!!" SO immediately, I got the feckin tools out, a drill, alot of sand paper and some scissors. I wrapped the sand paper around the drill bit and held it together with a bit of blue tack, then kind of sanded the plastic of the Ak body down till the gearbox could finally fit in it. Took hours but it was worth it. But that was not the end of my FECKIN TROUBLES. The Hop Up, The Terrible Little Shit In this Gun Right, I gave this part a bad title for one massive reason that pissed me off so much more than the fudging gearbox. IT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER HOP UNITS IN THIS GUN. REALLY?! I MEAN REALLLYYYY????!!!! WHY AM I SUFFERING????? IS THERE AN END TO THIS? At that point, I seriously considered chucking the gun out my bedroom window because it was such a bad upgrade platform. But on my good will, I kept it safe in my arms. When I got the gearbox for my birthday, I also got a CYMA hop up chamber with it. The hop up chamber The CYMA chamber would not fit in the gun due the to original being larger than this one. So the parts to screw down the chamber onto the front end was somewhere the CYMA hop up couldn't reach. (Don't think dirty) Plus, to add to my problems, THE ORIGINAL HOP UP CHAMBER DOESN'T FIT IN THE CYMA GEARBOX So I was back to sanding down the plastic on the hop up chamber until I could finally with the hop up could finally work with the gearbox in unison. So yeh, I bought the hop up for nothing, there was nothing i could do with it, so I just left it there in my drawer for days to pass. Until recently where I took the bucking and put it into the shitty hop up chamber which improved performance. OK, SO! This shitty hop up chamber isn't your regular AK style hop, It's considerably larger, so the barrel in this is unique, no way will you get a tightbore for this. It is composed of entirely plastic, a cheap one and the bucking is a kind of shitty hard type, which is shitty. Basically the Hop up is horrendous and the worst you could ever get. Also, about 5 months later, it stopped working in full auto for some reason. Full auto still fires but the BBs are not feeding into the shitty chamber.... I have tried many methods of fixing this but none have worked so far... so I'm stuck with semi for now. Performance With The Shitty Stock Parts So, with the stock 8.4v 1050 mAH battery, you can only achieve around 650-700 rpm but if you top off the battery and put it in the gun straight away, you can achieve 900 rpm, which is why the original gearbox failed. The battery is wired to the top, but upon getting my new CYMA gearbox, I took it to my school's tech center and rewired to the stock and bought a 9.6v 1600 mAH intellect battery which it can now consistently achieve 900 rpm. With the old gearbox and original hop up, the accuracy isn't too bad with .20s; you can get the job done. You can hit a man sized target at about 30m (I measured the distance), after that, it starts to stray right quite a bit until about 42 - 50m when it drops. Honestly, my cheap shotgun can shoot further than that. But with the stock CYMA gearbox and CYMA bucking and plus cleaning the barrel (which I discovered that I should do), the effective accuracy increased to about 45m being accurate with .20g and there is little curving to the left or right, it drops about some where over 50m, maybe 60m but I don't know. But with .25s the accuracy increases a lot and sometimes it can keep going straight with no curving whatsoever, in other words, pinpoint accuracy. This unique barrel in the gun works alright. The Final Conclusion DO NOT EVER GET THIS GUN, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. IF YOU ARE BUYING THIS GUN, ALL YOU ARE BUYING IS A SHIT TONNE OF PAIN AND HARDWORK AND SUFFERING, something not anyone would want, unless you have no life. CONS: 1. Internals are shit, all of it is shit 2. You will have no life if you buy this 3. Doesn't have a metal gearbox as it claimed to have 4. It's basically shit 5. YOU WILL SUFFER 6. Terrible upgrade platform 7. The internals are proprietary, although it will take A LOT of modding to fit other product brands. PROS: 1. The unique barrel is actually alright ..... that's it. My rating: -9999/10 But seriously, it's a bad gun overall. What kind of a stupid dumbass would buy a shitty AK47 made by a shitty brand who claim it to have a metal gearbox? Seriously? Oh wait, that would be me. EDIT: Also forgot to mention that when the spur gear made the horrible grinding noise in my plastic gearbox, I replaced it with the old plastic spur gear which was still intact surprisingly; it still had most of it's adult teeth, until I put it in the gearbox and ran a test.... You can probably guess what happened when 2 metal gears collide with a plastic one.... yerp, that's right, the plastic one died instantly on the pull of the trigger... Also, from then on after I got the CYMA gearbox, I have upgraded it on the way quite a bit; I've changed the piston head, cylinder and the o-rings and now the air seal is so tight that if you put the nozzle in your nostril and pull the piston, IT WILL suck out all the bogies and shit your nose has been collecting for many years. Then you can push the piston through again to create a bogie blaster to annoy your siblings. Other upgrades are; changed the stock bevel gear for a steel one from Airsoft-Club (as you can tell from now, i'm quite fond of that website) which has more surface area for the pinion gear to cling onto for a good turn. Gears have also been shimmed perfectly; the stock gears had so much wobble you could probably use them as maracas. Also got rid of the weird green lubricant that they used and replaced it with good quality silicon grease. Also put a washer on the plastic spring guide and I guess I don't need to buy a metal spring guide since this one is still pretty intact. Done some more stuff to it but can't remember from the top of my head.... So in the future, I am planning to either sell it or buy a G&P metal body and front end kit for it so that I can finally use my CYMA hop up chamber and gain full auto again. But i'm not sure that original DE mag will fit and feed.... SO! FOR ALL YOU KIDS OUT THERE, DON'T EVER BUY THIS GUN! IF YOU HAVE THIS GUN ALREADY, GET RID OF IT! THROW IT IN THE TRASH, INCINERATE IT, OR SELL IT TO SOMEONE BEFORE THE GEARS DESTROY THEMSELVES BECAUSE YOU WILL BE IN A WHOLE WORLD OF SHIT ONCE THE GEARBOX DECIDES TO GO KABOOOM. IT WILL RUIN YOUR LIVES! THE GRIM REAPER OF AIRSOFT GUNS WILL HAUNT YOU! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!