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Double Eagle M906C... Yay! Stuck my Kobra red dot on top, because... it's the only red dot I have, but it's cool Notice how Double Eagle can't spell "Marksman" as I guess that's what they wanted to say. Either that or they're great advocates for safety on, and off the field 🤣 First impressions... yowzers! Plugged in a 7.4v 25C lipo via the supplied Tamiya connector and it's shooting very nicely. Will look forward to trying an 11.1 in there. I've just pinged a few shots into my garden so no real idea on accuracy / range / hop etc but all good things, eh? The main thing is it just feels great, so pleased!

went to apocalypse airsoft in Kent this Sunday. had a great day despite the weather. day started off badly, as i had forgotten about the hill to access the site, so pulling a trolley full of my kit uphill it was reinforced just how out of shape I am. after getting my breath back and signing in I got my kit set up ready for the games. this was my second time at apocalypse, and i had to laugh when one of the marshals approached me and said they recognised me as "the guy with the Tippmann and underslung grenade launcher firing TAG rounds" I expressed surprise and asked if he was sure as it was only my second time at the site. he replied that he was certain as I had left an impact... then he put me on red team because he wanted to "see you blow up blue team" I found out soon after from overhearing one of the other marshals chatting with some other players that one of their site marshals was playing on blue team, so im guessing that was the reason for my assignment to red team XD got chatting to a few players and answered questions about my kit as I was getting ready, mainly from fairly new players. eventually it was time for the safety brief, which was held next to a bonfire so we could all keep warm in the rainy weather. the safety brief was fairly quick, but covered all the required points as was the subsequent game brief. apocalypse was on top of chrono, keeping track of how many people had chronoed relative to how many were booked in, and all guns were tagged to say they had been through chrono. game 1 was destroy the pumpkin. each team had a pumpkin in their base which they had to defend, (red team in the Vietnamese village and blues in the stockade for anyone who has played the site before), they also had to head out into the land between the bases to locate the engineer, escort him into the enemy base, and after shooting the enemy out of their base, the engineer would place remote detonation pyro in the pumpkin to blow it up. i opted to play a defensive game to begin and quickly climbed a sniper tower to try and get a better view of the approaches to the village and was able to get a few kills before getting shot out and heading to respawn pole. after respawning I decided to play a more offensive role and discovered that red team had smashed the blues pumpkin quite quickly, but blues had moved into the village, so our objective changed to clear the village and hold it against enemy attack. there was great communication between players regardless of whether we had met before or not and we were able to organise a good defence of the village. eventually it appeared that blue team were starting to give up or run low on ammo, so the marshals called the game a little early... and just for a laugh, before we headed back to safe zone, the engineer blew up our pumpkin. after a break to rearm, get food and warm up by the fire, it was back out for game 2, area defense. 4 locations across the land that had to be captured and held by teams at the end of the game. spawns were reversed this game, so reds started from the stockade. I was mainly focussed on the bunker and security cabin that were nearest our spawn, using the TAG rounds to good effect to clear out some entrenched defenders, but I also got shot several times by hidden reinforcements as I tried to move in to capture the objectives. eventually red team had secured all objectives and held them for most of the game. at the security cabin, things got pretty static and eventually my team mates decided to make things more interesting by pulling back to let blues capture the cabin and have the marshal advise them to dig in well and, after 15 mins grace period, we would head back and try to capture the cabin again (we actually did this twice in the game, but on one occasion, blues did manage to capture the cabin on their own merits) towards the end of the game, blues did make a very good push, over running the cabin and bunker, pushing right up to our spawn before being asked to pull back slightly so they weren't spawn killing us. at the end of the game I believe we had managed to recapture security cabin and had held the other 2 locations, but blues had captured the bunker (personally I didn't care too much about the score as I was mainly there to have fun) back to safe zone, reload and back out to village for the final game of the day. bomb in the village each team had a "bomb" and had to place it inside a tyre in the centre of the village. the interior of all buildings were out of bounds to make things fairer. lots of good pushes by both teams, and the bombs were switched over a couple of times as both teams made good pushes. over the course of the day I got many admiring glances by other players when they saw the Bifrost in action, lighting up my regular, non-tracer Valkyrie .32g bbs out to approximately 40 to 50m, one player even mentioning that it was sold out everywhere and asked how the hell I managed to get one (simple answer.. I bought it direct from Acetech and had it shipped over) as well as when I fired off tag rounds (one player asked me "did you just fire an actual grenade?" and after I confirmed and showed him what I had fired as I reloaded the launch shell his response was "I think I just jizzed my pants" XD) and in the safe zone I had a few blue players enquiring about the tag rounds and recounting their encounters from the receiving end.. one player stating that after realising that I had a Bifrost as well as TAG rounds, if he saw the Bifrost flashes he knew it was me in that location and he would quickly run the other way.. so the TAGs certainly helped win some battles even when I wasn't using them. of course there were the usual arguments/accusations of non-hit taking levelled against both teams, one incident a blue player managed to get close enough to shoot at several of my team mates in a position near to me, but their gun was audibly running dry, and after getting shot by two guns that were definitely NOT dry, they began accusing everyone of not taking their hits and wouldn't accept the fact that her gun was dry, despite a marshal and three players all saying that there was no bb coming from their gun. personally, I try not to let these arguments ruin my day and try to ignore such accusations as most of the time they are in regard to alleged incidents that I didn't witness. and if I think someone I am shooting at isn't calling their hits, i either keep shooting them, or let a marshal deal with it. only other bad things I experienced was the shit weather (beyond anyone's control) and the long drive for me to reach the site leaving early in the morning (im definitely NOT a morning person..) but aside from that and the aforementioned realisation of my poor fitness level, it was a great day out

How the fuck is the only red dot you own a Kobra? They're like diamond encrusted hen's teeth

Yes, most "metal" airsoft guns are cast alloy of varying degrees of shite. That said, I've had plenty of cheap metal guns over the years that have been absolutely fine. As long as they're not damp and the finish is intact there's no reason they would corrode and I don't know of any that have just spontaneously bent or cracked unless they were stored VERY badly. In terms of the specific guns you've mentioned they tend towards the better end of the spectrum in terms of fit and finish so you'd be starting off at a better place. Given the use of "dollars" I'm going to assume you're in the US so unless you're happy to skirt the law or just pay the tax stamps for an SBR then a true MK18 is going to be tricky thanks to the whole 10.3" barrel and full auto trigger group (although I'm sure there's ways around it because "muh freedums") but we can only really give you advice on airsoft stuff. As for spending a "few more dollars", I think ou'd need to add a couple of zeroes to your budget to get those as real firearms over airsoft replicas!

When you start unloading from Sunday, realise that ex-Workmate Eddy has filled eight magazines with a random mix of BBs, and you're so cheap you try to pick the tracers out.

But ballistic calculators don't incorporate backspin, because real steel bullets don't do that. They can not give you anything remotely accurate results for airsoft. It affects range and trajectory for BBs more than anything else. This is ballistic: https://gfycat.com/calmmammothatlanticridleyturtle This is with backspin (Magnus effect) https://gfycat.com/greatvillainouslabradorretriever You are correct about weights, etc, but that's not the whole picture.

I very much doubt 90m effective range no matter how much money you dump unto a gun, even upped to dmr levels with heavy ammo. Even experienced bolty users with well tuned rifles will tell you 90m shots are not easy to make even on a stationary target consistently.

Hi Carl, we've all been there with that first game buzz. However, we've also seen the classifieds full of "as new, never skirmished" guns as folks' enthusiasm for purchasing exceeds that for playing, especially over the winter months. I'll skip the tl;dr physics-vs-airsoft-magic, and given your requirements, just point you at this. Now back to the scheduled "Buy a TM recoil" posts.

for posterity i'd like to point out that whilst i'll use popcorn memes as a tool for communication i generally preferr my snack foods to taste better than their container...... which is why i now have a bag of maltesers sorrynotsorry

at this point should we maybe rename this thread to the grand unified theory of airsoft? i think so far the only topic we haven't taken a tangent into is the #knownfact that tm recoils don't abide by normal physics oh bugger....

I have carbined one of mine, its pretty damn cool. I have plenty of SMGs but theres something about a carbine pistol thats a bit easier to move around and its a bit different. I still have a pistol on my waist when I use it though for the flexibility. Plus the AAP is so damn cheap its easy and inexpensive to chuck all the add ons onto it. Although when you add it all up it is the price of a cheaper SMG oops haha

I did buy it back in the days when dinosaurs walked the earth How much are real ones (like mine) worth now? Maybe I could trade down and fund a new pistol Edit: blimey, I just did a google and the new gen version is £400. I might take it back off and wrap it in swan's down... before depositing it at Fort Knox I'm certainly not going to skirmish it again until I can find a 27mm polycarbonate disc to use as a lens protector! I've got the box in front of me, it was made in 2002

yep, definately 2 different conversations going on here..... at this point i'm not even sure what the point that's trying to be made is

you're literally just describing the three variables in the kinetic energy equation wherein Ek=0.5*Mp*Vp^2 but that's far from the only equation at play if you want to know the answer to how much energy a bb with given starting properties (mass, energy and spin) will have at a certain distance, or indeed as most airsofters really care about how much distance can they get the bb to go.

Some of the AK aeg airsoft rifles, are made of pressed steel: LCT, E&L, even some of the Cyma models. I had a couple of the LCT aeg ones. They were very solid and looked authentic. As for gbb AKs the WE versions are steel, and the GHK ones are said to use the steel receivers made by LCT. As far as I know, nobody makes a steel M4.

Yarp. From a quick skim through it, he also seems to be saying that he got lower muzzle energy with higher gas pressure, or viewed another way, higher muzzle energy by putting a bit less puff behind it. To be honest, I didn't really watch it, I don't think there's much for us to lean here, no matter how many spherical see-saws free-falling in a vacuum get postulated.

I've had a few of mine (cheaper makes) for about 4 years with no degradation except a layer of dust. I doubt they'll deform unless in a poor environment like a garage or loft where they're exposed to extreme temperatures in summer & winter. Those in your list will be made of the higher end metal so I doubt you'll have any problems. Airsoft replicas will not look like blued steel if you want that effect (eg for an AK) but going by your list they would be painted/cerakoted anyway so should look 99.9% authentic. If the airsoft version is cheaper than a deac then go for it.

For me, the username says it all 😏

Geoff's pretty much always get a vote from me and they go up .5 or .6 if memory serves.

Keep some of your money back for a replacement spring, as I'm going to assume that like mine it will compress relatively quickly and you'll lose 20 or so FPS. Also I bought a PTS EPS stock for mine and it's lovely, feels so high quality, and the space inside for any battery configuration you could imagine is huge.

Used for indoor games so I found it didn't need many internal upgrades other than a short-stroke kit for that brrpt... Just to make sure that I can empty the extendo's faster than i can reload them.

I have the C. My Son has a G36, so want to keep the batteries universal. Any longer batteries and you might find the stock doesn't close up fully. I hadn't used vapextech before, you get absolutely no shipment information whatsoever. I started to think it was a front for a chinese firm but I ordered Saturday and they arrived yesterday. If you're just after the discs I can pick them up and post if you can't find them anywhere else.

I ordered these: https://www.vapextech.co.uk/airsoft-7-4v-1450mah-20c-lipo-battery-with-case-lp208-vapextech Fit fine. I'm looking at this for a foregrip: https://mpa-airsoft.com/product/magpul-style-angled-fore-grip-110mm-black/ It's local to me so will pop down this weekend and have a look at it.

Talking of the other bits, I have a spare set of Vector Optics High scope rings that I don't need. I'm sure I could let them go for a reasonable price. https://www.vector-air.co.uk/product-page/vector-optics-30mm-picatinny-ris-high-scope-mounts-scot-54h these ones. £10 posted for you, brand new in the box and everything.

Ahah, yes, uninformed terminology use on my part there, it's the swivels I was after... but your suggestion is even better! That's great, two birds with one stone etc... saves a few more quid for the other bits Edit: In fact that very sling, available for £12 with free p&p is available on a Sale offer at AliEx for ... £3.51. Blimey, I think I'll be hunting around for a few bargains, it's the annual sale on the 11th, and you can pre-fill your basket in preparation!

To kick things off, given that we have established your budget already as far as QD mounts goes...none. You already have several on the gun itself. The round sockets on the lower tips of the stock, the front end of the stock, either side of the receiver rear plate and the back end of the handguard? Yeah, they're all QD sling points. Slings - something like this will be fine https://www.ant-supplies.uk/gun-slings/qd-push-button-swivel-slings.html It's a knock off of a Magpul MS something or other with QD ends and a convertible single - two point buckle jobber. Cheap as chips and they're readily available in most airsoft stores between £10-15 or from Aliexpress for less than the price of a chippy tea!

Cheers I've already got a full length M16, so had to get away from that. I was initially going for the PDW / CQB stubby, but this feels a good compromise now I've got it in hand

Have you tried binary fire yet? It's very cool.

i'm starting to think there are 2 very different conversations going on here........

Its a bit more complicated than that with airsoft BBs. Look up 'Joule Creep' but... Yes, a heavier BB will go slower and possibly further because its less affected by wind but that's nothing to do with what the video is showing.

I believe what the video shows is the guy finding the best energy/speed for the hollow point to open fully to its maximum without over deforming. The higher speed/energy caused the bullet to deform too much (hollow point folding over itself or tearing the rim off completely) resulting in a smaller cross sectional area therefore higher penetration. Again, this has no relevance to BBs

The Double Bell ARs looks like Boyi/Dboys.

Watch yourselves. That's Salma Hayek right there...

Oh quids in, my games at the local zoo are gonna be so much better with this piece of kit.

Its nearly there, it has taken a whole bottle of English Walnut Oil Preparation, the coat I just applied is taking a lot longer to soak in, so its near saturation point and its starting to get a nice sheen from my hand lapping. I managed to take photos after each application and will pick several to merge to show the colour depth change and the grain starting to show more character.

You sure his username isn't "seven nation army"?

That's top work from your lad. The 57 is not known as the most accurate HW, much as I personally have a soft spot for them. Surprised at the dryness of the stock, and the amount of oil it's taken. Bet it's a belter when done!

Mate don't bother with that cheap chinese rubbish...there is no Cheap NV solution. You can probably pickup a 2nd hand GEN2+ for around £1000. You could try looking at getting a GEN1+ tube from somewhere...but you would have to use a IR illuminator/torch with this to see anything though. There is also the Sionx Aurora NV camera that some peeps use as NV monocular which is around £500-600 I think. My budget Armasight Gen2+ cost me £1300 from ScottCountry sport. (On finance mind you) They still sell NV I think so maybe worth checking them out, but they stopped selling cheap NV camera's years ago. https://www.sionyx.com/collections/night-vision-cameras https://www.scottcountry.co.uk/night-vision/monoculars/

More pictures have just gone up on my site's site, reposting here for dopamine hits (and because the weird lighting on the last one made my face look like Red Skull). Damn, but I look so purposeful, and so expendable there. Horny xeno girls all want Guardsman-senpai to notice them.

Hi, ALL! 👋 Last Sunday, went to Zed Adventures and had a Great day, especially being Halloween! 🔫🤪👍 My first game in a couple years, at a CQB site! Can’t wait to play again and going to have some footage of it this Sunday, hopefully? 🤞👍 💷GAMBLE💷

@furylemon97, try somewhere else to compare. Absolute was actually my first site and got my first UKARA there. I thought it was OK until I tried other places. 'Red Alert' is good nearby and so is Skirmish Wycombe' a bit further.

Pretty good Hallowe'en event at Biohazard, equipping a friend-of-a-friend with loaner gear. He wasn't expecting to be loaded with with M4 and pistol (both with spitfire tracers), and grenades. He had a blast, got right into it and was pushing like a proper speedy boi - sometimes even still with BBs in the mag. Biohazard have the top floor open now, which really increased the length of a whole-site fallback game, and it's got a fair bit of potential for further development, kudos to them for that. We had the usual barely audible briefs in the echoing safe zone (bad), mostly very fair and good natured play (good), and laissez-faire marshalling (good or bad, depending on what you were there to do). Some rental blind firing and trigger spamming was in evidence, and I Had Words with a Sergeant McShouty after an earful too much following a zinger in the face. All hugs and back slaps before the safe zone though. Much amusement from a wee lad who was about 4 foot high and ran around the whole day with a pistol and backhand knife, coming around corners fast, low and stabbing. The costume competition was obviously a fix, being won by shop bought efforts rather than my hand crafted pretend space soldier rig. Granted it was hilarious being shot by knights, bananas, and a squad of Telly-Tubbies, and I don't grudge the winner in his inflatable T-Rex costume, firstly for even getting into the play area, but then for actually playing pretty well - you wouldn't think an 8 foot dinosaur could be sneaky, but he actually managed some great ambushes. Clearly a natural predator.

Been there today with 3 of my friends. Cons: The worst, there was no "chrono" in place, so every shot I took HURT. I could very well show up with an 8 joule gun and start destroying the place. The 2nd worst, the regulars. They cheated and got away with it. Rules changed mid game to suit them. Incident 1 : Shot a guy from 10m, he took 4 bbs to the shoulder, he crouched and then ran off into the bushes. Never seen again. Incident 2 : Snuck up behind a sniper, tapped him on the shoulder and said " knife kill ". He raises his hands up and says he surrenders. I lower my gun, he shoots me in the face from about 30cm. The bb shattered through my mask and I had to spit the fragments out. Please stay away from this place, there is a horror accident just waiting to happen. The people who play here have no concept of sportsmanship.

N is for Nuclear. N is for Nuprol.

I’ve been to the store a fair few times and everything is all fine and dandy, the staff are nice and chatty and the atmosphere is pleasant, HOWEVER I have never ordered anything from them online so I can’t say how that side of things are.

Not creepy at all Jon, I like what your wearing today