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Yes. They said that they had no record of it, as each agent handles and records their own inquiries (or lack of enquiries). We've all got a mate like that. Heck, I might be that mate, although I do try to be careful to express things as opinions unless I can cite statute or case law, or firm examples. In this case, he's talking about what could happen, not what will happen. What I will say from day-job experience is that police may check their own systems for information on an address (or known suspect) after dispatching an emergency response. They won't find a UKARA record, at least not the first time. They may find a previous incident record if it's a repeat call to some who learned nothing the first time, and that information may get to the response unit, and they may tailor their response based on it. In the past, they've shot a Scotchman with a table leg in a carrier bag. Better safe than sorry. Recently though, they've shown a lot of restraint. We've got multiple examples of that in the News section, from kids with two-tones in their own homes, student film-makers on the street, to folk actively trying for suicide-by-cop by gearing up and pointing an "AR" at them. That one got beanbagged in the balls.5 points
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Interesting, but it looks like two separate tasks mashed together: thinking, and shooting. I mean, have you met airsofters?5 points
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Some questions about UKARA and RIFs
Lozart and 4 others reacted to Tactical Pith Helmet for a topic
I was waving a large Sabatier around once. The plod ignored me as they knew I have a City and Guilds in catering and a food hygiene certificate (which the local Environmental Health Dept. had confirmed).5 points -
He used invisible ink. Hold it up to a flame.ππ4 points
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Noob Question - What are these guns + help with spare magazines
Tactical Pith Helmet and 2 others reacted to Adolf Hamster for a topic
you spelled "objectively superior" and "easy to use" wrong3 points -
I did in a way. I asked him "What if an UKARA member had a real firearm. According to your logic they wouldn't bother responding because he was UKARA registered". He ignored my question.3 points
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Ask him what the police would do if they had a report about a man waving a shotgun around. Would they check if the address had a valid shotgun certificate and then not bother to turn up ?3 points
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Yup. Unfortunately he's a "know it all" type, telling me he's learned about airsoft "for years". He thinks UKARA is a magic ticket that allows you to own RIFs. His idiotic take about the Armed Police and their access to the UKARA database was too much for me.3 points
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THIS ADVERT IS 'UNCOMPLETED' - THIS MEANS THE ADVERTISER HASN'T BUMPED THIS LISTING, BUT IT COULD STILL BE WORTH CONTACTING THEM.
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Channel your inner Shadow The Hedgehog on the field of battle, with this snazzy half-face balaclava scarf thing with a freakin' SKULL printed on the front of it! Woah, totally scary my dude! You are certain to win all your games if you wear this! (Not a guarantee). I think it even glows in the dark! So it'll be even easier to get shot in the teeth intimidate your worthless enemies. You could even mildly cosplay as that Call of Duty character everyone knows and loves. What's his name? Ghostface? Skullman? I forget. But he sure is cool, and so you too can be if you buy this thing. Buy it. Buy it now. Time wasters encouraged. ________________________________ Disclaimer: This mask is made of a thicker, warmer material than most half-face balaclavas I've seen when Googling, so it'll certainly take out some of the energy from a BB to your face, but it is not intended specifically to be face protection. It's just a scarf after all. Real price - just cover postage and it's yours. (but if, for some reason of madness, you do want to pay me the "LiStEd PrIcE", I'm not going to say no.) Postage options: - Plain RM 2nd Class - Β£2 - RM Tracked 48 - Β£4.35 Payment options: - Bank transfer - Paypal (either Friends or Family OR Goods and Services. Your choice, but note that any fees are payable by you.)Β£1,249.99
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Oh, we've had some great rants and handbag spats about that, and particularly whether something can be both a Firearms Act 1968 firearm (airgun are a sub-category of firearm) and an imitation firearm (FA 1968 definition) or realistic imitation firearm (VCRA 2006 definition) at the same time. It's all as clear as mud, but essentially you're correct: it's easier to walk out of a shop with something shooting metal at multiple Joules than plastic at 1.1J, despite them looking identical to anyone but a hands-on observer. Airgun, airsoft, and bang-gun. Aaaand welcome to the handbagging.2 points
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Yup π€ͺ The law really stupid in relation to air-rifles (and pistols) vs airsoft2 points
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Noob Question - What are these guns + help with spare magazines
Dan Robinson and one other reacted to RostokMcSpoons for a topic
I'm very happy with my Lonex mags, but even they sometimes partly unwind when I slide 'em in to my DE and the Tippmann. Any idea if there's something I can tweak to prevent that? With regard to mags / ammo carrying ... you could buy one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132131973156 Stick it in a pocket, it doesn't rattle, and it pours into a high-cap reasonably well if you're careful. I've got enough mags that mine is relegated to 'emergencies only' in a pouch on the back of my belt, it's good to know it's there, so not a wasted investment. (If you do buy one, and it's going in a pocket or somewhere hidden from view, don't necessarily buy the camo that matches the ground you're on - you'll never find it if you drop it :D)2 points -
Those are Dboys M4s (also known as Specna Arms, Lancer Tactical, Saigo Defense, Evolution Airsoft), solid starter guns. I would advise against buying mags before you get a replica, while it's true that in theory A brand mag will fit B brand gun, it's Airsoft we're talking about and most "guns" want certain brand magazines. I'll tell you this, if you don't mind high caps, Lonex Flash Mags are essentially the best and the ones that, in my experience, feed in most guns. Midcaps are cooler but they're a lot more fussy.2 points
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Some questions about UKARA and RIFs
Tommikka and one other reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Exactly. They're not giving out any information that you don't already have, just confirming it's correct2 points -
Youβre summing up is generally correct. The VCRA requires a βdefenceβ for the manufacture, sale or import of a RIF - but the offence committed under a sale would be by the seller (whether business or private) The UKARA is just a central register based on airsoft site βmembershipβ schemes, designed to protect retailers but has had processes for private sellers to request validation The border agency/customs and the police could call upon it βGiftingβ is an interpretation of the law - the law covers manufacture, import and sale - so can be interpreted that handing over a RIF with no remuneration is not a sale. Iβm not aware of this being tested in law, but a barrister was commissioned to review legislation against paintball by the UKPSF and they were happy with the interpretation of the law for gifting (There are quite a few paintball guns that could be RIFs and there was a reliance for many years on the theory thus a paintball gun is a low power air weapon, which is a type of firearm under legislation and therefore a firearm would not be an IF nor a RIF - but thatβs also not been tested in court) I try to stick to my sponsors wise words regarding both what I wave around in public and for general life As I have not yet been arrested or had my front door kicked in its worked much better than any databases (particularly as Iβve never been on a UKARA database) Silence is golden On a different tack I am aware of a very well known member of the old school paintball customisation community who built many airsoft based paintball customs long before the VCRA & UKARA were a twinkle in a politicians eye. He went through a dark period and decided to end it with suicide by cop and manufactured armed police response upon himself Had it not been for his ex also stepping in and reporting her concerns then it could have ended differently They did not choose to ignore the matter and did provide a full armed response team handling the matter very professionally The risk was still the same that they were face to face with an armed man, not knowing for certain what could be real or not2 points
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What have you made?
Pappa Large and one other reacted to SeniorSpaz87 for a topic
Been working on a M41a/Thompson midcap insert for someone (I dont personally care for either gun but Im happy to help a fellow player), figured Id share it here.2 points -
Hi guys, My mate seems to think police across the UK have an access to the UKARA database, which they check before sending Armed Police to an address at which someone saw you "through a window" (his words) holding an RIF. My understanding of the law is as follows: UKARA is a non-governmental database It is only accessible by retailers, UK Border Agency (when checking imports) and Hampshire Police (also when it concerns imports), as per UKARA website Its purpose is to protect Airsoft sellers from prosecution in case they sell a gun to an idiot who's going to use it outside of the Airsoft game Armed Police doesn't have access to UKARA, and waving your RIF anywhere is a bad idea. He seems to think "Armed Police will check UKARA database first, because it's cheaper and logical". Well, it doesn't sound very logical to me, since UKARA holder can also have an actual, illegal firearm they're waving, and not a replica. You can purchase RIF without UKARA number (eg. from a private seller, as online retailers seem to require UKARA number), as long as you're 18+ and you have a valid defence. You can also legally obtain RIF as a gift. Am I correct here?1 point
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Airsoft, finances and mental health.
TheFull9 reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Not sure what more I can add that hasn't already been posted, but there's some great advice here As someone who has struggled with debt and mental health issues I fully understand how appealing that new gun feeling can be, only for it to go very quickly and be replaced by the shitty feeling that you're still in the same position but more skint. When it comes to social media I find it's good to remember that what you're seeing is an extremely edited version of what's going on in people's lives and occasionally taking a break from it for a few weeks can do your mental health a world of good, especially the airsoft groups on facebook. All the whinning manbabies on there really make me dispair for the future of the hobby so I left almost all of them1 point -
Probably the best thread title/premise I've seen on here. Great idea. I think I was lucky in a respect, when I went through my trade training (age 19/20) it was like a more compact stint at uni except we got paid and had to march for it. I'd watch most of the other lads on my course manage to vanish their pay packet within a week every single month, for 15 months. They'd *constantly* complain about being skint the 2nd half of the month and be even worse when their cars were due MOT or insurance. I figured I'd better not be like them. Appreciate the folks who've been so open and honest so far, really good to see. I hope this discussion continues.1 point
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Double Eagle M904g β Aka the Original Q Honey Badger
RostokMcSpoons reacted to Dan Robinson for a topic
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Some questions about UKARA and RIFs
Tactical Pith Helmet reacted to boskee for a topic
Erm, yes? I never claimed you can "run around in the street shooting shit without the same outcome as the rif scenario" Again, I never claimed otherwise, but thanks for your input.1 point -
Hi All, Shot in the dark here. But I don't suppose anyone knows the stock shimming setup for a Double Eagle M916A? Very new to teching any gun and took apart my gearbox to check compression, during the process I knocked a shim or two and didn't know exactly which gear they was sat on. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Cheers!1 point
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What have you made?
Nick G reacted to HuttArmouries for a topic
Made a new toggle for a luger I got out of a parts bin. This one is just for test fitting. Ill pretty it up later. Vaugely considering re doing the whole upper assembly to get some semblance of performance out of this we1 point -
Those guns are some sort of M4 , M4 mags should fit. Whilst most are not model specific there are some that are , but you should be ok with any generic M4 mag. Can you not take a bottle or bag os BB's out with you during the game and then just refill the mag that comes with the rental ?1 point
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Marui man MP5SD NGRS
Enid_Puceflange reacted to Wavey_Gravey for a topic
Appreciate you π€π» Fuck it, listed it.1 point -
Eh, he's a good friend, but he's stubborn, especially whenever someone questions his knowledge of the things he's been interested in for years. I know next to nothing about technical parameters of RIFs etc, while he seems to have a good grasp on all that. I'm not going to ditch a mate over his poor understanding of the British laws. It's not like he slept with my wife That doesn't sound right, especially given GDPR and what's posted on UKARA's website. Surely you need a valid reason to access their database.1 point
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Marui man MP5SD NGRS
Wavey_Gravey reacted to alxndrhll for a topic
All priced up gets you into the Β£900 region, given how desirable not only the RIF but the mags are I'd throw the regular '60-70%' thing out of the window and be looking in the Β£750 region including fees and postage.1 point -
I imagine that he's thinking that there's one born every minute. I imagine he's probably right, sadly, given that he's got positive feedback. Still, it's a consensual transaction, nobody is actually being tricked.1 point
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Tell Us a Gag. Please!
Philby21 reacted to Tactical Pith Helmet for a topic
I wallowed in a bath full of creosote today. Just though I'd treat myself.1 point -
@Rogerborg didn't you do a FOI request a few years back to see if border force could you the number of requests made in a single year? Did they ever respond?1 point
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You can certainly buy RIF's from private sellers and not having ukara or some other form of defence. You can buy two-tones from a shop so you don't need ukara in that case either. When someone waves any form of gun in a public space there is only one outcome usually. I mean this is the UK after all not the States you may have a better chance to survive here, lol.1 point
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You can always pay via Goods & Services, cover the fee yourself without letting them know, and then take it up with paypal if they did send you a lemon.1 point
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Halo screen ghillie suit material-
Guy elson reacted to Badgerlicious for a topic
AGM is the same stuff as far as I can tell. I have halo, a friend has AGM, both are exactly the same besides the shades being very slightly different. For all practical purposes they are the same. A good suggestion for someone on a budget! Though nothing else really gets as close to real leaves as halo (besides real leaves :D)1 point -
Gun picture thread
UK-Recce reacted to Jez_Armstrong for a topic
Built this up from new last night π1 point -
The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread
Rogerborg reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
A very special friend as he gave him a "hand" To stop this from being spam I'd better say my last game was at Ambush Airsoft near Cobham on the 12th and it was a great day, despite the MP5 battery dying 30 seconds into the last game. Still, I had lots of fun with the shotgun which got a few admiring looks and comments about it what it's like to be on the receiving end of it Hope it gets sorted soon. Despite what we may say in jest, your health and staying out of a forever box is more important than dicking about in the woods1 point -
Halo screen ghillie suit material-
Guy elson reacted to Badgerlicious for a topic
The haloscreen bundle will get you more green, so if you're doing a summer ghillie I'd get that. Just make sure you get the "starter pack" as it's enough material to do a full ghillie. The laser cut stuff is a rip off. The nov set is more material for less, but half of the sheets are quite brown. I prefer cotton for brown as it ends up looking more like dried leaves. Saying that it's not a bad deal tbh. There's also AGM on empire airsoft, which I believe the large pack gets you more material than the halo starter pack, but it's still about the same price as the haloscreen. The small pack wont be enough for a full ghillie, but you could comfortably to a viper hood plus a gun wrap with it. I also seriously recommend Nutscene's dyed raffia. I'll link 'pesto' which is excellent for grass, but you can also use 'twill' and 'cinnamon' for replicating sticks. And 'olivine' I haven't seen before but that looks like it could be a really good colour too. https://nutscene.com/collections/crafts/products/nutscene-raffia?variant=151448277156191 point -
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Depends on your views (I personally love anchovy, but pineapple is heresy). I'm not at risk of suddenly keeling over, but my ECG scan on Thursday was, to quote my doctor, "fine, but odd". At the moment if I do too much I wake up at about 2am with palpitations and shortness of breath, severity depending on how much I did. Will probably get referred to a cardiologist to get it fixed, as it is likely a fixable thing, but until then I can't strain myself too much.1 point
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VFC M18
Gibbz reacted to LukeSimpson for an advert
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Heh, this one is not secure enough to hold any valuable since it doesn't have any closure system (not that it can't be DIY'd or engineered huh). I just use it for navigation equipment (pencil, map, 10cm metal ruler and plastic protractor). I keep my car keys/phone in my backpack that I always have on my back, dummy corded so there's no way of losing them. The harness was chosen because I also have their flatpack straps (called PackStraps, many creativity, such wow) and they're very, very comfortable compared to HSP/clone stock straps, if anything a little too expensive to import (they were about β¬80 after customs and import fees, I got 50% off the straps themselves so you are looking at well over 100 for full price) but worth it. As per the other thread, I won't be overloading it with pouches, wings, danglers and all that crap unless absolutely necessary, I'm keeping this one ultra slim. If I need to carry my kitchen sink I'll just wear my Mayflower or belt kit1 point
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What have you made?
concretesnail reacted to SSPKali for a topic
Canβt be bothered to try and make a barrel clamp on RIS fit under the front sight so I trimmed a Polymer Magpul Mlok extended rail to suit π Clamps through the holes in the fore end and keep the light out the way. If my repro light had threaded holes I could lose the clamp and bolt it directly - might invest in some taps and try threading it.1 point -
Airsoft, finances and mental health.
SilentSparky reacted to Speedbird_666 for a topic
This. 7 Years ago - when I finally realised that I was in real trouble - I was Β£23k in debt with Credit Cards. Luckily I was (just about) paying the minimum payment on time (so no late payments or defaults), but those minimum payments were skyrocketing, interest free offers were ending, and I was struggling. Thing is - my Wife had no idea I was in debt. It was when she found out that I had to confront the issue and acknowledge what an idiot I had been - all to buy the shiny newest thing and get the dopamine hit of receiving parcels in the post. I was deeply unhappy with my job which compounded the issue as I would sit at work browsing for stuff to buy rather than...y'know...working. It was all the more galling that I had literally nothing to show for it - I would buy stuff then sell it before I even used it (that includes Paintball and Airsoft gear). The proceeds of the sales would just get frittered away on more random and pointless crap - and never to tackle the Credit Card debt that was steadily accruing. I was very lucky. My Wife didn't divorce me (but it was close) - I don't know where I would be today if she had. I was able to change jobs and dramatically increase my income. Every spare penny went into repaying the debt - and it took 5 years - but for the last 2 years I have not owed a penny to anyone and I am determined to keep it that way. It can be done - I would also suggest taking a look at the 'Debt Free Wannabe' section of the Money Saving Expert forums, it helped us to identify the best course of action for the circumstances I landed myself (and family) in.1 point -
KWA EVE-4 First Impressions
BigAl reacted to Speedbird_666 for a topic
The upper and lower use different polymers - the lower being stiffer/harder, the upper is slightly softer and has a touch more flex. There is a slight difference in colouring and finish too if you look closely. Both are excellent quality - the best I've seen on an out of the box Airsoft gun The bolt stop has the mag well protrusion, so if you have the appropriate KWA GB with the Cutoff electronics and associated MS120C Mags, you should be able to add the bolt stop feature onto the gun. Luke *sort of* approves (I replaced my piston with no ill effects to date but I will keep an eye on it)1 point