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Yes. They said that they had no record of it, as each agent handles and records their own inquiries (or lack of enquiries). We've all got a mate like that. Heck, I might be that mate, although I do try to be careful to express things as opinions unless I can cite statute or case law, or firm examples. In this case, he's talking about what could happen, not what will happen. What I will say from day-job experience is that police may check their own systems for information on an address (or known suspect) after dispatching an emergency response. They won't find a UKARA record, at least not the first time. They may find a previous incident record if it's a repeat call to some who learned nothing the first time, and that information may get to the response unit, and they may tailor their response based on it. In the past, they've shot a Scotchman with a table leg in a carrier bag. Better safe than sorry. Recently though, they've shown a lot of restraint. We've got multiple examples of that in the News section, from kids with two-tones in their own homes, student film-makers on the street, to folk actively trying for suicide-by-cop by gearing up and pointing an "AR" at them. That one got beanbagged in the balls.

Interesting, but it looks like two separate tasks mashed together: thinking, and shooting. I mean, have you met airsofters?

I was waving a large Sabatier around once. The plod ignored me as they knew I have a City and Guilds in catering and a food hygiene certificate (which the local Environmental Health Dept. had confirmed).

He used invisible ink. Hold it up to a flame.😂😉

you spelled "objectively superior" and "easy to use" wrong

I did in a way. I asked him "What if an UKARA member had a real firearm. According to your logic they wouldn't bother responding because he was UKARA registered". He ignored my question.

Ask him what the police would do if they had a report about a man waving a shotgun around. Would they check if the address had a valid shotgun certificate and then not bother to turn up ?

Yup. Unfortunately he's a "know it all" type, telling me he's learned about airsoft "for years". He thinks UKARA is a magic ticket that allows you to own RIFs. His idiotic take about the Armed Police and their access to the UKARA database was too much for me.

I haven't seen much of interest yet but a Stechkin APS with stock from VFC. GBB assumed.

Oh, we've had some great rants and handbag spats about that, and particularly whether something can be both a Firearms Act 1968 firearm (airgun are a sub-category of firearm) and an imitation firearm (FA 1968 definition) or realistic imitation firearm (VCRA 2006 definition) at the same time. It's all as clear as mud, but essentially you're correct: it's easier to walk out of a shop with something shooting metal at multiple Joules than plastic at 1.1J, despite them looking identical to anyone but a hands-on observer. Airgun, airsoft, and bang-gun. Aaaand welcome to the handbagging.

Yup 🤪 The law really stupid in relation to air-rifles (and pistols) vs airsoft

I'm very happy with my Lonex mags, but even they sometimes partly unwind when I slide 'em in to my DE and the Tippmann. Any idea if there's something I can tweak to prevent that? With regard to mags / ammo carrying ... you could buy one of these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/132131973156 Stick it in a pocket, it doesn't rattle, and it pours into a high-cap reasonably well if you're careful. I've got enough mags that mine is relegated to 'emergencies only' in a pouch on the back of my belt, it's good to know it's there, so not a wasted investment. (If you do buy one, and it's going in a pocket or somewhere hidden from view, don't necessarily buy the camo that matches the ground you're on - you'll never find it if you drop it :D)

Those are Dboys M4s (also known as Specna Arms, Lancer Tactical, Saigo Defense, Evolution Airsoft), solid starter guns. I would advise against buying mags before you get a replica, while it's true that in theory A brand mag will fit B brand gun, it's Airsoft we're talking about and most "guns" want certain brand magazines. I'll tell you this, if you don't mind high caps, Lonex Flash Mags are essentially the best and the ones that, in my experience, feed in most guns. Midcaps are cooler but they're a lot more fussy.

Exactly. They're not giving out any information that you don't already have, just confirming it's correct

You’re summing up is generally correct. The VCRA requires a ‘defence’ for the manufacture, sale or import of a RIF - but the offence committed under a sale would be by the seller (whether business or private) The UKARA is just a central register based on airsoft site ‘membership’ schemes, designed to protect retailers but has had processes for private sellers to request validation The border agency/customs and the police could call upon it ‘Gifting’ is an interpretation of the law - the law covers manufacture, import and sale - so can be interpreted that handing over a RIF with no remuneration is not a sale. I’m not aware of this being tested in law, but a barrister was commissioned to review legislation against paintball by the UKPSF and they were happy with the interpretation of the law for gifting (There are quite a few paintball guns that could be RIFs and there was a reliance for many years on the theory thus a paintball gun is a low power air weapon, which is a type of firearm under legislation and therefore a firearm would not be an IF nor a RIF - but that’s also not been tested in court) I try to stick to my sponsors wise words regarding both what I wave around in public and for general life As I have not yet been arrested or had my front door kicked in its worked much better than any databases (particularly as I’ve never been on a UKARA database) Silence is golden On a different tack I am aware of a very well known member of the old school paintball customisation community who built many airsoft based paintball customs long before the VCRA & UKARA were a twinkle in a politicians eye. He went through a dark period and decided to end it with suicide by cop and manufactured armed police response upon himself Had it not been for his ex also stepping in and reporting her concerns then it could have ended differently They did not choose to ignore the matter and did provide a full armed response team handling the matter very professionally The risk was still the same that they were face to face with an armed man, not knowing for certain what could be real or not

Been working on a M41a/Thompson midcap insert for someone (I dont personally care for either gun but Im happy to help a fellow player), figured Id share it here.

As my GBBR pulse rifle build seems to be of interest to a few I thought I'd do a build thread sort of thing. Bear with me , I dont do 'tech' so the order of posts and pictures might well be a bit random ! I'm starting with a WE Thompson that I've been gifted. It's seen better days and came a cropper when an hpa experiment went very wrong, however I should be able to sort it given time. The upper reciever has cracked in a couple of places so I've ordered a replacement. Untill that arrives i've done a very rough and ready strengthening job with some scrap angle ally. Looks a bit frankenstein, but will hold the upper together for now which means I can crack on and get everything mocked up then fit the repacement when it's in pieces for final prep and paint. What I started with Snow Wolf body kit, there are lots of bits in the box ! Very basic strengthening job to hold the upper together for now. You can just see the cracks. The puls rifle outer barrel mounts via an aluminium adapter, on the aeg this also mounts onto the hop unit extension. The holes on the side of the block take M3 bolts that also secure the front brackets to the body. I plan to drill and tap the botom of the block and secure it to the handguard extension on the tommy to help support everything although it seems pretty robust just bolted to the body. In order to hold the hop unit and inner barrel into the GBBR upper I chopped the mounting lug off the spare barrel that came with the Thompson. This them mounts and secures the hop / inner in the standard fashion. If I had access to a lathe I would have shortened and turned down the outer so it would fit the mounting block in the way the aeg one does.

@boskee tbh I think your just another annoying know it all, who is asking dumb questions that you already know the answers to, and posting for the sake of it.

How much are you charging for this and how long does the event last?

I'd do that , save buying mags untill you get your UKARA and order your first RIF, then get mags to match,

I guess I could. I didn't need additional mags for most of the games except the D-Day scenario where I emptied my magazine fairly quickly.

I mean 0.25 out of 2 aint bad?

If you are selling a RIF and want to check the buyer has a valid UKARA you can call to check. They won't give any personal info but if you give a name and address or UKARA number they will tell you if its valid.

The trouble is that, while we know he's talking bollocks, others may not and his ridiculous advice may cause someone to have a very bad day

So it's pretty much an escape room with a bit of target shooting. I think I'll pass

Simple solution, stop talking to pillock and findbetter friend.

You are correct except for a small point in (2) Anyone can check if a given name and address has an associated valid UKARA But of course the Police will not check that before responding to a reported weapon sighting.

Big weekend for us both this weekend as we are running the Chelmsford Half marathon. Distance wise im not worried as i have covered half distance a few times and ran out to 16 miles 2 weeks ago. But under 'race' conditions i know i have to resist the urge to tear off and get burnt out early or repeat my cramping issues from the run Norwich race last year. The mrs on the other hand has this as a massive challenge. Her longest run to date is 11 miles. So shes going to have a physical and mental challenge come sunday. I am just hoping the weather holds up and we don't get a repeat of when she ran her 1st ever 10k at Run Norwich last october where it absolutely bucketed down on us for atleast half the race.

I wallowed in a bath full of creosote today. Just though I'd treat myself.

@Rogerborg didn't you do a FOI request a few years back to see if border force could you the number of requests made in a single year? Did they ever respond?

You can certainly buy RIF's from private sellers and not having ukara or some other form of defence. You can buy two-tones from a shop so you don't need ukara in that case either. When someone waves any form of gun in a public space there is only one outcome usually. I mean this is the UK after all not the States you may have a better chance to survive here, lol.

The body fits pretty well, I've had to take a little bit off it in certain places where it was very tight, still making adjustments to that but the first proper mock up looks decent. The round counter sets to 95 when the mag is in as it should. Small micro swith and circuit board fits into the top of the mag well. I've yet to solder up the sensor that should count it down as rounds are fired. This fits into the front of the outer garrel inside the triangular support. I've now added the stock to the mock up and that works fine (although it wont retract fully because of the angle ally on the upper) The gun cycles but sticks on the mag occasionally, this doesn't seem to happen outside of the body so when it's apart again I need to see if something is affecting the mag position slightly. It's very much a work in progress with lots of things to solve along the way and going to be a longish project but I think the cool factor when it's done will be worth it.

Thanks both for the welcome. Indeed you never really give up, thats why we never sell all of our kit right 😂 I think I’ll pick up a Patch from the store, and hopefully bump into fellow members Thats a very good point, compliments as you say, usually win a friend for life! Again thanks both for the warm welcome back

I'm especially suspicious after he tried to gaslight me earlier...

If you want to go mega cheap, you can use old camos. Shred up an old pair of trousers and use it the same way as haloscreen. Will it be as good? Probably not, but it will be a fraction of the price and still do the job. Embrace old fashioned ghillie crafting!

You could contact Theyma HP on Facebook for proper haloscreen. Forget about AGM and Novritsch, those are junk sheets of tulle/mesh that aren't even in the same universe as HS.

A very special friend as he gave him a "hand" To stop this from being spam I'd better say my last game was at Ambush Airsoft near Cobham on the 12th and it was a great day, despite the MP5 battery dying 30 seconds into the last game. Still, I had lots of fun with the shotgun which got a few admiring looks and comments about it what it's like to be on the receiving end of it Hope it gets sorted soon. Despite what we may say in jest, your health and staying out of a forever box is more important than dicking about in the woods

First mock up with the GBBR thompson. The base gun needs work yet to get it running properly, but fits OK Ammo counter resets when mag in

Couple of recent WIP builds MRE done on the cheap , optics TBC. KC-02 /Magpul 10/22 build

Aww friend... airsoft friend.

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Small kit update Crye Gen 2 top Crye Gen 2 trousers New helmet cover from HIG DIVIES PTT New headset mounts New hel-star strobe MPLS3 helmet light Emerson back panel 3D printed knife and sheath 3D Printed MANTA suppressor cover

Heh, this one is not secure enough to hold any valuable since it doesn't have any closure system (not that it can't be DIY'd or engineered huh). I just use it for navigation equipment (pencil, map, 10cm metal ruler and plastic protractor). I keep my car keys/phone in my backpack that I always have on my back, dummy corded so there's no way of losing them. The harness was chosen because I also have their flatpack straps (called PackStraps, many creativity, such wow) and they're very, very comfortable compared to HSP/clone stock straps, if anything a little too expensive to import (they were about €80 after customs and import fees, I got 50% off the straps themselves so you are looking at well over 100 for full price) but worth it. As per the other thread, I won't be overloading it with pouches, wings, danglers and all that crap unless absolutely necessary, I'm keeping this one ultra slim. If I need to carry my kitchen sink I'll just wear my Mayflower or belt kit

This. 7 Years ago - when I finally realised that I was in real trouble - I was £23k in debt with Credit Cards. Luckily I was (just about) paying the minimum payment on time (so no late payments or defaults), but those minimum payments were skyrocketing, interest free offers were ending, and I was struggling. Thing is - my Wife had no idea I was in debt. It was when she found out that I had to confront the issue and acknowledge what an idiot I had been - all to buy the shiny newest thing and get the dopamine hit of receiving parcels in the post. I was deeply unhappy with my job which compounded the issue as I would sit at work browsing for stuff to buy rather than...y'know...working. It was all the more galling that I had literally nothing to show for it - I would buy stuff then sell it before I even used it (that includes Paintball and Airsoft gear). The proceeds of the sales would just get frittered away on more random and pointless crap - and never to tackle the Credit Card debt that was steadily accruing. I was very lucky. My Wife didn't divorce me (but it was close) - I don't know where I would be today if she had. I was able to change jobs and dramatically increase my income. Every spare penny went into repaying the debt - and it took 5 years - but for the last 2 years I have not owed a penny to anyone and I am determined to keep it that way. It can be done - I would also suggest taking a look at the 'Debt Free Wannabe' section of the Money Saving Expert forums, it helped us to identify the best course of action for the circumstances I landed myself (and family) in.