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I actually thought about selling up after foobarring my shoulder but the wife actually talked me out of it “You might hurt now but who knows next year all is fixed and you’ll miss it and I won’t let you spend all that money a second time!!” That kinda made my mind up

This sounds so much like me at the moment, after the fiasco of being banned from my ‘home’ site I really felt like binning the whole thing for good but luckily I’ve got a couple of amazing friends I’ve made through the game and they’ve kept my head above the stormy waters of giving up(they both said off their own backs even after I said they should still play there due to the ease of getting there they’ll never go back to black ops after the way I’ve been treated , one even quoted the musketeers “one for all and all for one” at me ! Proper friends) any whoo we tried out ‘Spartan woodland’ on Sunday having never been there before nice site(pine woodland) , friendly staff really good gameplay ‘BUT’ you have to use their own bio ammo (not a problem) only thing is it’s pale brown and you can’t see it for shit in the gloom of the woods ! So you really don’t know where your rounds are going no matter how good your sights are dialed in . Now point of this ramble is I ditched all my specific loadouts and matching guns and just took a couple of different AK’s and a few high-caps and even though I think I only got three kills the whole day I did still enjoy the day to an extent simply for running ‘ultra’ light by my standards . So I’d say give it a try before you bail completely .👍

I'm quite the opposite right now, having returned to airsoft after a good number of years I feel refreshed and ready to shoot shit! However, I can completely acknowledge what it feels like to burn out on airsoft. I simply had other interests that I wanted to sink money into. For me it was cars, motorsport and trackdays. I think it's one of the few things that rivals airsoft in cost! 😅 As others have said - maybe it's time to refresh and minimise your kit back to basics. Or, like what I did, sell off the majority and keep the basics - knowing you'll be back at some point in time.

Just picked up this little beauty (WE GBBR) that I can run as a Mp5k or Mp5 PDW. This now means I can run every MP5 variant as a WE GBBR….

I get the feeling. haven't been in months now and it might not have escaped the notice of some that i'm going through the process of flogging gear. originally i'd planned to just drop down to one gun, one rig etc, the bare minimum. but even changed my mind about that and everything's going on the list. i think what killed it for me was coming back after lockdown and running into the same old shit, the non hit takers, the chrono dodgers, the aggressive players and thought to myself "why am i doing this?", it's never going to change, no site is immune, it's just human nature. it's such a lottery, at least for the sites i have access to, as to whether or not a game is going to be enjoyable. you get a good crowd on a good day it's an amazing experience but it doesn't take many assholes to ruin things. which ultimately means you can't guarantee that if you've had a shit week at work, or whatever that going pewing is going to lift your spirits or push them further down. ofc i haven't figured out what i'm gonna do instead, airsoft did strike a beautiful balance as a hobby where kit isn't the hardest to store and transport (compared to say a car or a boat), is affordable (again, compared to say buying a classic car), and combines social, exercise, and nerdy tinkering together (compared to say rc models which round here is pretty much a solo endeavour).

Running costs are a concern for any past time worth doing. If you're buying stuff because you want them and can afford them, that's fine. If you don't want to run them for fear of breaking them, that's fine too (just look at Negative Airsofts collection for a good illustration of that!). Forget about the law changing though, that's out of your control. Deal with it if it happens, don't fret about it now. Maybe pick up a couple of reasonably cheap guns and run about with them so you don't worry about them breaking? Thing is though, it's just stuff at the end of the day. I have a bunch of guitars, some of which are quite expensive now. One of them is a US Gibson Explorer that I've had for 30 years. It's been gigged, it has dings and scratches all over it and if it breaks it'll be expensive to fix but is it hanging on a wall or sat in a case? No, because it was made to be used. Same with those airsoft toys, unless you buy one that is specifically designed to be a wall hanger, go use it. Get some joy from pwning noobs with that creaky as fuck PSG-1, soak up the admiration of all around as you majestically light up a bunch of folks with the Uzi (with obligatory Austrian accent while doing it). If you have a gun that works reliably and you just prefer the ergonomics of, use that and let the others sit on the wall, it just doesn't matter! And if you're ever around the north Hampshire kind of area, give me a shout and come airsofting with us. We take very little too seriously!

This. I felt the same way a few years back, so forgot all the Gucci kit abs guns, and started going with some mates who just wanted to have a decent day out. Haven’t looked back since!

Unlikely. Probably be worse! 🤣 Ewww, Teachers!

Same with most hobbies, really, and we're spoiled for choice in the decadent West. I'd go with that. Start flogging off what you don't need, but don't sell right out. Try a different site, a pistol-and-shotgun only day, do a hoodie-high-cap day, something to give you a different perspective. But I wouldn't force yourself to go, and especially I wouldn't go for anybody else's sake: that's what made me give up on historic re-enactment, when it became more about "supporting the group" than a pleasant day playing make believe. I don't do group motorcycle rides any more for the same reason.

Is it just the airsoft or is something else driving this? I played on Sunday and to be brutally honest, Saturday night I just wasn't feeling it. Work is stressful right now, my Dad has dementia and has been getting worse, my new permanent working from home is driving me up the wall and it's all contributing to an overall lack of motivation. I went though with three good friends and a couple more of their regular crowd and had a blast. Different site for me, different bunch of faces, it can work wonders! Nobody says you HAVE to play until you drop or how often you have to do it. You don't need to justify the money you've already spent as long as it isn't holding you back (NEVER go into debt just to play toy soldiers). Maybe you just need to find a different site or a new bunch of people with a similar mindset. God knows that I have fallen out of love with many a site thanks to one bad day but going back with a bunch of like minded mates has changed all that. At least when you get that one argumentative prick you can walk away and go chat with your buddies. Of course, if your buddies are the argumentative pricks...you may need to get new buddies.

Maybe try going back to basics. Take the bare minimum kit, go with a few friends and just strip it back to the core experience.

Get a girlfriend with a "good personality".

Just wanted to put this out there, as it is something I am going through, and others might be too. I turned down the opportunity to skirmish last week, which would've been my first since last summer (which was in itself the first in six months) as I have completely lost the enthusiasm to play. The thought of testing batteries after so long, hoping magazines are still gas tight and hauling it all out of the loft, let alone the prospect of potentially playing alongside players who become aggressive or argumentative just killed any desire to do this again. I know I have felt similar in the past, and have got through it and played again, but I feel now that I am mentally tallying up my kit in prices and thinking what it would all fund.

Am going to give my local site a go on the 29th. See how it goes. Thanks all for your input and advice.

Bit torn on this one, understand the bs the officer has to go through had he shot him dead....... BUUUT nonce with a rifle threatening innocent civilians, kind of case an investigation/inquest should take all of 5 minutes to rule on, ending with a commendation for the officer for his exceptional work for getting rid of a low life pos🤬

Sorry my friend but this simple comment shows your well and truly f**ked mate ! 😱😱😱If the mrs is telling you to hang on to your kit ‘just in case’ and not sell it all off for beer tokens that she can then purloin of you in the first place then yea she’s got something even bigger planned for your poor old bones . ☠️⚰️☠️

I reckon this will be a common situation for a lot of people as the covid situation calms down. After over a year of less rushing around to do stuff and just concentrating on the core part of life I think lots of us have become apathetic to all the stuff we surrounded ourselves with before. I was an anti social bastard before but I have even less will to go out and put up with life's bullshit now. Kind of realised all the rushing blurred the rest of life too much and I am enjoying concentrating on the important bits again like family and sleep. I would guess for most the laziness will wear off but some will stick with the comfy insular slower pace as they will have learnt to enjoy actually stopping for 5 minutes.

Another +1 for that group, I also joined a while back, I've resisted posting to far, even though I'm going through some dark shit at the moment I can only think the meds are keeping me going, but it's good to know there is somewhere to "talk" or just get it off your chest. That said, I've always found most of the members here to be very open & accepting when subjects like this come up, supportive with a modicum of banter just to lighten the mood, definitely better than full on doom & gloom👍

I know this isn't exactly what I started this thread taking about but I believe mental health is as important as physical health, of not moreso, especially in this pandemic. I keep seeing people talk about their lack of motivation and some have opened up more and a lot of what people are talking about sounds like the early signs of depression. So I'm sharing this group started by a good friend of mine. It's great as a place you can go to vent, get a second opinion or just talk things over. It's helped me and many others and I don't think it's hyperbole to say it's more than likely saved a few lives. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2322408757979991/?ref=share

That really does depend wholly on your budget and how much of it you want to sink into one item. All the legit gear that's out there is designed with professionals in mind. Some of it is made for range days (Helikon TMR for example) but most of it isn't. None of that gear is designed purely for airsoft with the exception of WTF gear as that started out as Paintball kit. If your actual survival depends on the performance of your gear then absolutely, buy good kit. Buy the branded stuff. If your gear just needs to survive a Sunday skirmish once a month then sure, buy it if you want to but if you have other priorities in life like family, mortgage, eating, then Chinese gear is absolutely fine.

It's common to most open skirmish sites and big games to some degree. I find small more personable games are often better like forum gatherings and the more niche games people organise. I haven't been to one yet but I'm booked in for the next western game at fireball for that very reason.

I feel you. Ever since I had a knee injury last year I could barely walk, let alone run or run in full tac gear. Since March I started a new recovery programme and now I'm almost ready for getting back to my fav activity. For strengthening body and mind (and losing weight), basics work well for me: intermittent fasting, full-body workouts, running, rucking, dry drills.

I do like the look of the Hayley rig. Wish I could justify the price for the amount of use it's going to get as I'm not able to play as much as I used to few years ago. Might look into it further if the Arktis turns out to be not so great. That's a good shout too. Thank you all for the great suggestions. Really appreciate it! Looks a bit tight to me when he puts the M4 magazines in. Reminds me of the PC when I had to stuff two magazines into one pouch and sometimes struggled to get them back in or even out. Hopefully the Arktis proves me otherwise. yeah. some of the rigs can be overpriced and in the end not worth the money you pay. That's why I mostly turn towards stuff that is used by the military. Not for the wannabe soldier looks, but for the durability. And some surplus can be bought at very good prices and last you ages. Might not be the most comfortable and lightweight kit, but certainly can last and stand the wear and tear.

Personally I have expander bases/options for all my many micro rigs (couple spiritus, couple custom and a haley). 3 Ferro chesty wides and a Spiritus Thing 2, but there's various other options out there. If modularity is what you want or you'd like to build that sort of setup over time it means you can basically always configure a chest rig to carry exactly what you want. The harness and back straps are all the same whether you add the extra width/pouches or not, only takes 2 seconds to swap between configs, not to mention of course the PC cross-compatibility. Just an option. If you need to carry lots of fat/big/weird mags and the popular micros don't suit because you don't want a belt as well, then there's no shortage of standard all-PALS chest rigs out there to attach any pouch your heart desires on to.

Hi all I’m completely new at airsoft,my son got me into it and loving it.just a few questions ,I’m looking at getting a l96 , and sidearm, is there a make that looks like and feels like the real rifle what sort of sidearm should I be looking at will have to be mid range budget due to having kids in college,I am going for sniper as my legs are knackered all those years running around in green lol ,any advice will be great thanks,hope to meet some of you soon on the field

Hi mate still looking at pros and cons of all the gas electric etc probably around 120 for a sidearm as I want spare cash for mags etc I’m happy with a basic rifle for the moment to get me running thanks for the info Thanks mate

Everyone goes through this regardless of hobby I believe. I find with this kind of feeling, there are two categories: 1) Temporary and 2) Permanent. Temporary This is the most common, in my opinion. Eventually you just feel tired, bored, burned out, etc and that all leads to a lack of motivation to take part in a hobby you once really enjoyed. Regardless of the cause, it usually best to take a step back and see if a break is all you need, no matter how long. Whether you sell your gear or hang on to it in the mean time is a personal choice. What usually ends in regret is selling your gear because you want the cash for something else that isn't necessary. Duration of this phase can vary wildly - just take it a day at a time would be my advice here. Permanent This category is one you'll only know you're in with hindsight, either you're taking that break an realize you have zero desire to ever try the hobby again or you've sold up and something makes you remember the former hobby and you know you're never going back in that moment. I'm made this realisation with gaming a few years back. I used to be an avid gamer, could spend all day every day playing. Especially competitive games but I just don't care for it anymore. At least not in the way I once did, now I play single player RPG games, not for the game but for the stories. Which considering the state of gaming is far and few between these days. I know I'm trending towards no longer gaming at all but I'm comfortable in the knowledge that I just find different things take my interest now. Its not something external to the hobby bringing me down like depression or stress. Usually when its an outside factor, you need to resolve that issue before you start throwing stuff out because once it passes you'll just regret your clouded decision. Either way, there's nothing wrong with feeling like this unless it some outside factor causing it. Time changes everything and everyone, and your interest and hobbies are no different. Take a step back and see if you just need to let it sit until the spark comes back or if something external is smothering that spark that needs addressing. Most importantly, remember that your friends won't change because of this. Even if what initially started the friendship was a common hobby like airsoft. Those mates will still be down for going to the pub or whatever alternative works for you to socialise and hangout. Those who do disappear were never your friend to begin with but a hobby based colleague. You'd chat around the table in the safe area and rush objectives together like work colleagues on a break or working on a project together but once you move to a new job, you don't talk to them anymore.

Huey can order it in no problem and only £5 delivery with few weeks wait. I asked them about the female buckles and they do come with it.

an accurate summation. certainly for me i think it was the catalyst that set everything going. ofc doesn't help that life is getting rather fluid at the moment, work is getting very heavy at the minute and the prospect of having to move for work is coming up, so having some extra pennies in the bank and less stuff to worry about is reassuring. maybe once the chaos subsides i'll come back, or maybe i'll move on to pastures new.

Either this or a Marui MWS in a 416 conversion kit (https://www.haoptwart.com/product-page/hao-s-416-cag-conversion-kit-for-marui-mws) Both will set you back about £1500, but are probably the best you can get from either a gas or AEG platform. Otherwise the Marui 416 NGRS is a good platform for around the £500 mark.

Or get one with a good body because you will still say in bed but get plenty of exercise.

One of their "Big Bags" so only 58.5g. Being honest I can comfortably eat one of their to share bags, I love the things. But that's all the shop had.

OK, so having a bit of a google it seems it should be something along these lines: https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/headings/6210#notes which would be 12% duty, but digging into it a bit further "bullet proof vest" comes back as 6210400000 which is 0% as an import from the EU https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/commodities/6210400000#import Again, it ENTIRELY depends on what they put on the CN22.

Thanks you. It's this one I was looking at https://eu.directactiongear.com/en/bearcat-ultralight-plate-carrier.html#PWW I also emailed about the tax the other day. With all the bits I need the amount is this.

Totally agree it’s budget dependant. I like to “buy once cry once” but that said it doesn’t mean real has to be expensive. A pat.83 chest rig is the same price if not cheaper than that Krydex rig and it will stand up to so much more abuse, it’s one less thing to worry about breaking in our game of toy guns.

+1 for the above! Also, I joined that group a while back and have been lurking on a semi regular basis. Just seeing the shite some people have to deal with helps me get a bit of perspective!

Do you go to game days on your own? I found going it alone was ok, I could act all tacticool and not worry about anybody ‘not playing along’. Since going with some mates it’s more relaxed, it can be a laugh or as competitive as you feel on the day. I totally understand why agro players are mentioned, nothing ruins a day quicker than a hothead.

Cheers pal. Appreciate the invite.

airsoft is so much bigger and better then one's local site. quite simply get out more! disrupt your homeostatis, raise the bar and jump over it. im sure you'll get the spark back. life is too short to think 'what if'. its too short to do the same old same old too. having fun is hard work. any dickhead can load up a game, stick the tv on or get a round in. bit cringe but i agree with mr damon here: edit to explain myself: "This type of impatience is usually accompanied by the Number 1 Error as well. It is due to the failure to appreciate the fundamental process by which strength accumulates. Stress is that which disrupts homeostasis – the current level of physiological adaptation. Stress is a change in an organism’s environment sufficient to cause the organism to adapt to the new requirements imposed by the change. Whether it is a mosquito population adapting to an insecticide or a weightlifter adapting to 5 pounds added to last week’s deadlift, adaptation is the process we manipulate in order to get stronger."

Same boat really. Not had any desire to play this year. Tinkering, buying and making (since buying a 3D printer), yes. Hauling my fat arse over to an Airsoft site...nope. It's my two boys (16 and 13) that make me go, and it's fine when I get there and actually play TBH, but I'm the one who preps all their kit, fills their mags, charges their batteries, sets their guns up etc. so it's a triple whammy of ball ache for me when I get to site.

TM 416C is a riot.

I just looked that up. Good god I want one but under no circumstances could I justify one.

Mine has a personality so fine that she doesn’t live with me 🤷🏼‍♀️ Maybe if she did I’d be more willing to get up?

They have not had it in stock for awhile I was looking at least 2 months ago (very annoying they keeps sending me in stock notifications for a BAR that is never in stock). Anyway the add 60 to 80 quid postage and fees and you are back to roughly £350 new.

Stella on your cornflakes and a nice eye opener of scotch and the world is a better place... 😂

Have you seen these? I recently bought one and with a bit of fiddling and a viper 308 insert i can run 4x high cap .308 mags in it. Tbh it feels a bit cheap to me, certainly don't think its £60+ worth but it does feel very lightweight and comfortable too. I've not fielded it yet so no practical use. But house clearing practise it work very well. And like you I've got fed up of my PC!

@JVacation I'm following you like a bad smell 😉 The inner barrel in the M904E is a funny length at 215mm, it's not a size that most AEG's have. Personally I'd be looking at ZCI barrels from here... https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/ ... but you'll have to go with a longer one and a dummy suppressor of some sort to cover it. Go with a ML Macaron 60 degree if you're sticking to the stock 340fps 👍

Not intending to rain on any parades, but given the title of the thread it feels wise to say something. Losing that much weight in 2 weeks is extremely unhealthy. If it's giving you motivation to get healthier then use that, but please fix the balance between eating too much shit and simply not eating enough at all. Generally speaking when you start any sort of weight loss plan you'll be losing more earlier on, but even considering that losing that much in 2 weeks rings alarm bells.

Haha whatever floats ya boat😉. No to be fair it's a great weekend away. Not so much about game play for me,but that is a bonus. 👍 Regards

Just had a look at the eBay store - no sign of the SIG sight. That says to me that SIG has had a word and they've removed the listing, it also says the shop's being run by people who are knowingly ripping people off. Interestingly it's still listed on their website, so I presume they're not out of stock.