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Just make sure you dont accidentally get some fairy power spray on it and remove the paint when wiping off your accidental spillage. Dont tell people on internet forums about your mishap either, it might give the wrong impression.

The tan is pretty cool against the OD too. Not sure if any companies are doing a repro of the new LLMs yet. I'm finishing up my M870 build which has been nothing but a pain. Still the cylinder to troubleshoot and lots of external bits like the sling mount and sling in the post, but had it mostly assembled anyway so put it together: Happy with the results so far.

I think this is the first time I've been back on the forums in literally months. =[ I've more or less dropped the hobby whilst I sort my finances out, sort a car out, and sort out a house. It's a 3 year plan but hopefully it won't take that long. Despite not playing for months, I am still buying stuff though, because y'know, nothing slows down your life plan like spending the money you're meant to be saving on new shiny gun stuff... Most recent purchase is an Elcan Spectre DR and a 20mm conversion mount for my L85. I must admit, I always thought I preferred the ACOG on L85s because it takes a funky canilever mount to get it on there, but the Spectre is definitely growing on me. Mainly because, in the airsoft world at least, they're just infinitely better optics. This thing trumps my ACOG on literally every front apart from maybe size (because it's massive) and weight (because it might as well be a brick). Better glass quality making the clarity much more crisp, no more foggy view as per my ACOG. The reticle is beautifully clear, not lop sided, and doesn't blur against the target. It's also illumated with 12 levels of brightness across two colours, and the eye relief is fantastic - no more ramming my eyeball into the rear lens to see anything. It also has the bonus feature, well sort of, that if you configure the red dot on top to zero to the main optic, then every time you rezero the main optic, you simultaneously zero the red dot as well. Due to it being slaved to it; when you adjust the main sight, it's the sight that moves on its mount, rather than the internals of the sight moving within the body, and since the red dot just sits on top, if you move the main optic, you're also moving the red dot, so they stay zeroed to the same point. Win win. Though I have yet to field it, so that may mean knocking it causes it to lose zero... In which case I'll be very annoyed and counting that as more of a fail than a win, but for now it seems a handy feature. Certainly makes it easier to switch between multiple rifles as the time spent reconfiguring will be halved. But anyway, pictures:

ICS all the way, superior internals, just picked up an ICS ProArms Mk3 this week oh man it sweeeeeeeet

It comes down to the one in a million chance of this high energy projectile hitting somewhere fragile. Like your face. It might be an accident, it if someone takes a direct hit to the face at less than 10m, will it break their eye pro? Could it bust a nose open? Could someone be about to hose them down with bbs as their eye pro falls to pieces? In a perfect world, an MED and call out works a treat. But the danger with these (in the eyes of an insurer at least, I've never seen or been hit by one) is the same reason people aren't allowed to lob reusable pyro around. Yes, people signed a waiver to be shot at and have mk5s lobbed at them, but nobody signs a waiver to allow high energy projectiles like a BFG or a TAG grenade. With a proper investigation into how much damage one of these could do in a worst-case scenario (assuming that they are actually safe to fire at someone at close range), you could probably convince most insurers that they are safe and justified to use.

Mate thats so wrong.😞 Get her to wax first.😉

I don't know about that, I love spending time in some bush! And a sudden entry into a rear passage, just to see the surprise on her face. Back to airsoft... MP5 or MP5K work well at the Mall.

M4 is sorted so I shall be shooting, I mean seeing you fine gents on Sunday

300 fps with a good hop is more than sufficient for plastic death at range, pew pew pew

Dont fall into the whole sniper/dmr thing of shooting further. A longer barrel doesnt do much for range on an aeg its all about the hop up, bucking nub combo, barrel quality/bore, bb weight/quality and most importantly that its set up properly. You can get slightly more range because of higher Fps but not a lot. Would go for a more manoeuvrable gun over the extra few meters of range everytime.

If you want to play a bunker you should try the ucap bunker. Is nuts down there! Is also full auto every where and 350fps limit. Is extreeme cqb in damn near pitch black

Change of pace needed, so - G&P M7A1 Type B - MUR Upper Receiver version Dytac TRX Battlerail 7.2" in Black G&P Mushroom Muzzle Break in Black (As much as the Madbull SI Cookie Cutter is nice, not paying an extra £50 to get some trademarks). Dytac Invader M4 Magazine - Box of 5, Black Edit: Orga Magnus 6.13mm 182mm for AEG A Plus REAPS Bucking Dytac H Nub G&G Plastic Hop Unit (Because the G&P one is garbage) ASCU Gen 4 I should stop spending right now

I've always used Contours instead, they're much cheaper, better battery life, better sound quality, simpler design and a little less imposing. They look like a bit of airsoft equipment rather than a big square camera. GoPros still win on picture clarity and do use better camera sensors for higher resolution images and shit, but they're still both capable of full HD video at more than a good enough quality for airsoft videos. You can pick up Contour ROAMs online for next to nothing second hand, and there's a bunch of different mounts for them too.

Well, fortunately for you (to save you from your instinct for a bargain which jbbg prey upon), Trisnpod, those Mossbergs are out of stock {OOS for future reference {FFR}} @jbbg. Trust us. We are not running a vendetta against jbbg for some imagined or real slight in the past, we are not running a vendetta at all, but warning you/anyone reading this because there are countless threads on here started by noobs who have all 1) heard about airsoft 2) googled it 3) found jbbg 4) bought a piece of shit {POS FFR} 5) tried to get a refund/replacement/repair 6) been simply ignored or lied to and finally 7) found us... 7a) we very often end up having to advise youngsters that whilst all airsoft guns are BB guns, not all BB guns are airsoft guns, regardless of what colour they are, or what FPS &/or range sites like jbbg quote. In this case there are some cheaper springer shotguns, both single and triple shot, which are skirmishable (in woodland most, but not all by any means, of them make for a challenging primary weapon and are thus often carried in over-the-shoulder holsters as secondaries, but they are fine for use @CQB sites {Close Quarter Battle = usually Urban}; indeed some people like to use a POS as a challenging primary @CQB to inflict more humiliation on their targets, but better learn some gun/tac skillz before you try that or you'll just get pwned all day long without even a hope of getting your own back), however AFAIK those 2 you picked out are not suitable beginners' primary weapons... 350/55FPS my arse - a cheap springer with a barrel that short will be lucky to produce over 300FPS if it is expected to work for more than about 5 shots, because the guts of them are made from plastic and zinc alloy {AKA pot metal/monkey metal/cheese}. Note that it says "JBBG TESTED" - well, we don't know for sure that they do not have a special high reading chronograph which they keep specifically for these tests, but what we do know is that if you fired one of our primary weapons which we know, from experience chronoing at various sites, shoots at, say, about 345FPS, those shotties would measure @least 45 less. BTW Crosman mainly make air pistols, which are a whole different kettle of fish to airsoft guns, and their POS BB guns are just a way of cashing in off people who don't know any better; Cybergun on the other hand don't make anything, they just put their label on other manufacturers' products to market them in countries where the original manufacturer has no distribution - i'm not 100% certain but i think that plastic Mossberg 500 design is made by Palco, who make a whole range of P'sOS all of which should be avoided apart from their CO2 powered pistols which, although very cheap, are surprisingly good. As I said above, if you go for a cheap shottie, get either one of the Double Eagle M56 range (which fire 3 BB's per shot & are clones of a very successful Tokyo Marui design), or one of their M58 range which fire 1 BB per shot (I can't personally vouch for their M47 range, but others on here may be able to); or an ASG Franchi SAS which also come in either 3 or 1 BB/shot versions. Is cash a major issue for you? If so, how much is your budget?

Hello all, So now the TAG Innovation rounds have revolutionized the uses for launchers, it sparked an idea that might (safety dependant) enable them to do the same for shoulder launched airsoft anti-tank kits? Many use Nerf rockets in their anti-tank launchers to good effect, however I wondered if there wasn't a way one could hollow out such a rocket and insert the TAG round, so that when launched it could also go out with a bang? Thinking about it now, even just hollowing out a Nerf from the tip like a pumpkin, then giving it smaller more numerous holes around the sides of the body, to then filling it with coloured powder and covering the side holes with a thin paper wad, could also give good powder explosion effect for cheaper? Maybe someone's tried that, good to hear any thoughts on bettering anti-tank airsoft effectiveness and practical uses, as shower grenades are a bit of a let down for these kits in my humble opinion.

Due to the fact I have posted some things already, I should just say Hello Everyone, I'm Kit a New Airsoft Player. If anyone could help me (proffrink Has helped me before!) I am looking for a M4 or Starter Sniper (Left Handed or ambidextrous) and places where I can get gear: Ammo Belts, Uniforms, ect.. And what is the best bb's? Bulldog seem to be everywhere? I heard there bad though? Or Should I scarp it and get a kit? ( I know, I'm Kit Looking for a Kit, I get it.) Thanks for everyone's help! Kit.

Wait a minute this didn't turn into the usual ukara shitstorm arguement... I'm gonna go look through zero in or UKAC to make sure I haven't quantum leaped or something.

NOT THAT YOU'D EVER THINK OF DOING THAT

I wouldn't sand paper unless you like the worn look or plan on respraying it. Powerspray will do the trick

Have a look at other guns other than the M4's. Be a little different.

Think of it as a bonus.

Don't worry about it. Ukara is there to protect sellers of rifs.

Fourth Update: Buckings, barrels, nubs etc

Yeah it's a new laylax one, I stumbled across it when ordering a replacement hopup for it from JP. Firesupport have the tan version in stock but hasnt seemed to have made it over here yet

100% Knickers in a twist going on here. People have been launching TLSFX 2-stage mortar pyro (effectively a Mk9 bang used to fling an Mk7 out of a tube) for years, I've seen them used in an M320 to take out rooms full of people from pretty impressive distances. This is absolutely no different in terms of technicality, except that the tag rounds aren't a 100g lump of flaming cardboard coming at you! As for 'high energy projectile'.... get a grip, it's 24J because of it's mass and velocity at launch; the actual impact energy would be considerably less at even 10' away and the material they're made of is so insubstantial they're less likely to hurt you than a snowball. A squash ball is genuinely more dangerous, everyone ban squash courts, the daily mail will go nuts!!!!

I get the insurance viewpoint and the whole section 5 spin stabilised explosive thing, but are they ACTUALLY any more capable of causing harm than a MK5 to the face? If knocking peoples eyepro off is the problem then that's no different than the kinetic rounds or even the marker rounds which everybody seems far happier about. An explosive going off in proximity to your face is a bad thing regardless of how it gets there.

GoPro are probably the best all round camera (i.e. they take the best video) but like Ed said, the contour sticks out less and has better sound quality. The clone stuff works but isn't nearly as good... which goes for a lot of stuff.

My E&L AKs-74U, "Natalya". Still a WIP, she's going to get some professional work done soon to finish her off. I think less is more in terms of AKs.

Because a TAG round is a launched explosive missile that's actually illegal in the hands of your average joe, not classified as your regular firework and a grenade is a pyrotechnic (that is governed under the same laws as fireworks) and is legal. I'm not saying that makes sense, but that's how it is to insurers. This shouldn't need explaining - it's obvious from an insurers point of view and that's my point. Edit for further reading There was a thread on Arnies that a few people who frequent this forum will remember too. As far as I'm concerned, I think the whole launched projectiles things needs clarification. As it stands, explosive projectiles like TAG are one headline away from having serious consequences on the game we all love. Imagine a 14 year old getting hit by one and having even the slightest burns on their face - that would be going straight to the Daily Mail. tl;dr Kinetic or 'marker' ones are fine, but the explosive ones you see advertised in videos are most certainly not. I love the concept (never seen one used outside of YouTube videos), but we need to tread carefully.

Actually - yes. Let's say you fire a pyro at someone from a launcher. You hit someone a reasonable distance away and it goes off with the force of a MK5. You then throw an actual MK5 at someone again at a sensible distance and it just happens to go off when it reaches them. They both have the same explosive force and are both in a similar proximity to the target. So tell me - what is the difference in terms of risk of personal injury?

Cant comment on other sites or their insurers. Filmsim who operate our games have a set of specific rules for their use. We dont allow the powder ones or the impact detonation ones.

I think it may have something to do with someone in an office being concerned that one of these pyros could go off when they hit someone in the face. To be honest, I'm surprised any site can get these covered for use in the UK. Which is a shame because the idea of using a grenade launcher in airsoft to actually launch pyro is a cool idea

not looked at the other brands but i guess its where you have it mounted as to if it gets in the way?. my first game, a friend brought his along, attached somehow to the hire gun....and forgot it was on most of the time, then he wore it on his head, someone took a shot at it and broke the cover,....but he had fun and got some good videos at times. another guy at work takes his mountain biking and loves it, he has recommended to me to get one.... sorry not much help am i! haha

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Well the game changer might be the new TM M4 thats around the corner. Personally I dont like ther AEGs but the GBB they do are awesome; my Mp7 for instance so it will be interesting to see what the M4 is like

We allow the use of these in our games. Some players now have the smokes as well which are now available.

Knowing some of the Russians that are going I can tell you this: you're going to be in for one hell of a fight #BolshForLife

We have our names on the back of fast helmets. And you should spot us, he is my older brother by 10 years, but imagine the movie twins and you should get the idea haha Both will be covered in mtp, plate carriers and m4 rifles :-)

Latest UK Tactical discount, £50 off a WAS Recon Plate Carrier (RPC) until midnight Wednesday 30 September. So £69.95 instead of £119.95

Hi guys and girls, New to the forum and to airsoft as well. Had a good look around on the forum already and found loads of useful posts\information. 2nd game booked for 11th Oct at F&O The Asylum in Kidderminster - looking forward to game number 3 to get UKARA sorted.

mmmmm.......don't let sittingduck see you on that site! messing around in the garden, kids toy really , just protect your face and eyes no matter what!!

Well, as you probably know, you'll have to get an 18+ to buy any BB gun for you, but with your parent/s' permission you could try airsoft at many sites: 14+ is the usual cut-off age for UKARA registered sites' insurance. So you could rent a decent-ish gun and face mask plus, at some sites, some form of camo gear, and get stuck in to way more fun than you can have with an underpowered plinker in your backgaredn... Of course some people feel the need to serve a couple of tours in the Back Garedn for the props... war is hell, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! [it's a long running in joke on here, into which you are privileged to be inculcated ]

I'm with the Russians so look forward to shooting you guys

That fore grip makes it look an awful lot nicer!

Still was not sure what was best so I ordered a Dye Precision I4 thermal paintball goggles from Amazon. £75, free P&P, and arrived the next day. Used the mask today at The Mall and had no problems with the lens fogging up, clear vision all day. Good field of view. It did get damp inside the mask with sweat but no condensation or mist on the lens. Although I could wear my glasses under the mask, they fogged up immediately so I took them off again.

<< from hull i mainly play at SHA, i have played at arena in grimsby (i was a member, i dont recomend, but they have changed it so it may be ok now ), LAC (great sites though combat zone is abit of a trek). Elsham is great, i cannot wait for the next game day!!! i have played 1 game at humber, and i was a little put off (it was over a year ago mind, and its a personnel thing) i have not played at headshot. for a complete beginner i would recommend SHA (slaughter house), if not for the fact that its close by, its because i play there on a serious note hire guns are available and not too expensive, games are varied and not too long etc its great CQB, but i am a little bias i think the only requirement is that you wear foot protection with ankle support (most sites require this). the only limiting factor of SHA is the fact that sniping is very very limited, it is a CQB site.

Actually - sorry. The FPS is irrelevant it's the Joules (energy) you need to worry about. 0.86g @ 150FPS = 0.89 Joules 0.2g @ 320FPS = 1 Joule Then you get shot in the face by a bolt action sniper running at 450FPS which would give you 1.87 Joules and no eyes.

Nerf rockets are fin stabilised, TAG rounds are explosives. If you combine the 2 you are making a device capable of firing a fin stabilised explosive. This may well be safe enough but it is unfortunately rather illegal.

The Guns Airsoft guns are full size 1:1 scale replicas of real world firearms. They shoot small plastic balls, 6mm in diameter with approximately 1 Joule of energy. This energy level is very low when compared to most other shooting genres and is a safe energy for use with both paper and human targets. These replicas are commonly made entirely from plastic with only a few metal parts inside to increase the reliability and durability of moving parts. Construction quality varies wildly from model to model, as does the use of materials. Airsoft guns can be powered by electricity (from a battery pack inside the gun), by spring (the user manually compresses the spring before each shot) or using an expanding gas (refrigerant gas is commonly used from a reservoir either inside or outside the gun). The only thing airsoft replicas have in common with real firearms is their external size and shape. Inside, these models have totally different workings to the internal mechanism of a firearm, and the materials used for construction could not possibly withstand the explosive forces of a bullet that real weapons are designed to take. The Game Similar in essence to paintball, two or more teams are pitched against each other in different scenarios. Originally designed to simulate a war zone with more realism than can be achieved with paintball, these games are played on privately owned and insured sites dotted around the country. Normal Airsoft replicas are used and strict safety limits are imposed in order to make sure that everyone has fun and no one gets injured. A days play will usually cost you about £15 to £25, or possibly more if you choose to hire a weapon. This normally includes all games during the day and hire of eye & face protection. Some sites will even provide lunch. Airsoft Skirmishing is generally far cheaper than paintball. Airsoft games can have many scenarios and there are plenty of favourites. "Capture the flag", "hostage rescue" and "last man standing" are popular paintball games that have been adapted for airsoft. To play airsoft, you must be wearing the correct protective clothing. As with many other sports you're only safe if you are properly dressed. After all, you wouldn't expect to see Lewis Hamilton getting in to his racing car wearing his favourite t-shirt and no helmet! An Airsoft BB hit on bare skin will leave a small mark on the surface of the skin that will look and feel like a bee-sting. The more powerful the airsoft gun, the more it will hurt if you get hit, but with site energy limits in the UK being largely 1 Joule, there is no possibility of a BB causing a penetrative injury. With this in mind, airsofters wear eye & face protection, sturdy boots and tough clothing. For extra protection gloves and a scarf can be worn to give cover for your hands, neck and ears. For more information and guides please go to the guides forum here: http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/?showforum=7