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Pretty happy with this setup, has been several years in the making and refinement. TM MWS, a few minor changes to make it ambi and loft 0.32g BBs. TacBelts paracord ends for the Slingster keep it quiet and the Brownells forend keeps it old school. Waiting on a carry handle as they are like Unity Mounts but prettier. Spiritus Mk5 for 3 rifle mags and a pistol speed loader in a Esstac Kywi (kydex trimmed to allow the feeder lips to protrude…Matron!) I can top off 3 mags from this to save carrying extra weight. IFAK with actual kit I or others might need (make use of my FREC3 qualification somehow) FRV belt (back before they stopped actually supplying customers) with USP holster and TM USP, Direct Action dump pouch holding an M4 kywi for slick reloads and an added elastic leg strap a la TrexArms. Kydex Kustoms holder for the AlphaTex BFG. This set up is plenty for the usual skirmish and if I am really lazy I can run just the chest rig and Mk5 pyro on the elastic strap on the side. The coyote brown goes with most things, even the slightly faded SADF M83, and either civvy or Ranger Green gear.

the council has spoken looks like ill be getting an mws by the end of the year

Today, the lad and I wandered off to Splatoon, a smallish airsoft and paintball in deepest Essex. I had been once before for a boot fair, but this was to be our first time playing there. The safe zone is pretty large and well appointed with remarkably good toilet facilities, a tap for water, a decent food stall selling the usual range of drinks, snacks and burgers (actually including vegetarian!) and HPA filling points. It just about absorbed the 90-100 players who were present. All weapons except pistols must wear a muzzle sock in the safe zone. After finding a table and chronoing (which opened early and ran very efficiently), we were ready for the first game; this was a simple domination using the four available playing areas (two are being upgraded), two of which were wooded with lots of small structures, while the others contained a variety of larger structures, mostly built from old shipping containers, a kill house and a couple of wrecked helicopters. This was a good, fun game which provided us with a good opportunity to explore the areas that were in play. Hit taking seemed to be very good and the game ran well; apart from the last five minutes of the day, all weapons except support weapons were limited to semi auto, which meant that the latter actually had a distinct role. After a quick trip to the safe zone to reload, we went back out to play a game were our team (red) had to transport a bomb across the site (at 90 degrees to the direction the first game had been played) and place it in either of the two helicopters. If the bomb carrier was hit, they had to drop the bomb, which could then be picked up by another member of the team; the opponents could not touch it. After a very good set of battles across the site, we got our bomb in with about 7 minutes to spare. Yay! Go us! This game was then reversed; a well organised defence resulted in our opponents being unable to get their bomb into either helicopter. Yay! Go us, again! After lunch, about which I cannot comment as we took pizza, there was a fun team deathmatch, which was manic, slightly chaotic (in a good way) and a good way to blow off the post lunch lethargy. We then moved on to a fallback game; as the attackers, we respawned on a marshal who was a reasonable distance behind us, while the defenders had three lives in each of the four zones. We pushed them out of the woods quite rapidly and then got stuck attempting to break into the first of the container structure areas, thanks to a gritty defence by our opponents. Eventually, we managed to break into the area, although many of our team were taken out by a superb pyro throw which sailed over one of the helicopters and exploded, taking out all of the players who were clustered behind it. We slowly pushed up and were just starting to move into the final zone when we ran out of time. As so often seems to happen in the afternoon, a few players became quite vocal about alleged non hit taking and other alleged misdemeanours so, when we returned to the safe zone, the site owner gave a rather impressive "motivational talk", reminding everyone that we were there to have fun shooting each other with plastic balls from toy guns and it really was not something to get aggressive about; this was very well received. As it was now getting close to the end of the day, we went out for another team deathmatch, albeit with a slight twist; the first ten minutes would be team v team and semi only, while the last five minutes would be all v all with full auto allowed. The lad announced that he would be keeping as far away from me as possible towards the end of the game; I can't think why. The last five minutes were as chaotic and fun as might be expected with lots of people taking the opportunity to shoot their mates. Thus ended the day; it was great fun, was well marshalled and made the best use of the four areas of the site that were available. We left very satisfied and will definitely return. As the lad is off to train for Cambrian Patrol and then back off to university, while I have rehearsals for our third festival gig of the summer and the festival, our next game will be at Op-Tac's The Kingdom near Stoke in early September. Weapons used: Me: LCT PP-19-01 APS UAR Milbro M1911 Classic (CO2) - until it died just after lunch. The lad: CYMA AKS74U LCT AS-VAL ASG XP18 Commander (CO2)

When I started a few years back, I thought GBBRs seemed like too much work for little gain, especially against the hi-cap/drum mag spray-and-pray window lickers. Now, I'm completely at peace with the game, including the drum mag, HPA speedy bois and all their shenanigans. One well-aimed shot from my MWS gives me a tingling usually reserved for buxom wenches bringing beers. A couple of games ago I tracked one lad as he was running. When I squeezed the trigger it was followed by a "Ow. OW! That fucking hurt! That's a stinger!" as I got him in the neck...although this was more by luck as I'm a crap shot and body mass is my preferred target 😂 Seriously though, GBBRs are a different and more rewarding gaming experience, at least to this call sign. They've rejuvenated my interest in the hobby and long may it continue. As i've said before, "JOIN US!!!!"

It's all relative. I'll drop £500 on airsoft without blinking. I look at a pack of pasta and think; "You can fuck off if you think I'm paying £2.80 for that!"

Probably going to pick up my first gbbr next weekend. Can't skirmish due to rather grim family events, so will use a bit of free time to have a tinker. Decided, I think to get an AA G36. I know it's not gonna last, but it'll give me something to take apart and fix without the stresses of screwing up something 3 times the price. I'd like to thank the forum once again for encouraging me to lighten my wallet further. Sod you all. 🤪

Right, I got bored - too bored to wait for some low-tack vinyl to appear, so I went and bought some modeller's masking tape (Revell brand) in the hope that it'd do a better job than the green painter's tape I was using previously (spoiler: not really) So my M90 Homage happened... I did the colours in the wrong order, so there's more khaki than green, was intending the other way around, but actually this looks nicely 'disruptive' so it's fine. It's not perfect when inspected closely (damn it, vinyl might be the only way to do it really nicely), but I'm happy with it. It'll look even better when worn / weathered, as the khaki is brighter in sunlight than this pic shows ... which brings me to a question: @JimFromHorsham you mentioned a light dusting of black to blend it... would you recommend me trying that across the whole gun? I've previously spoiled my M16 with side-spray that drifted across from a bit I was touching-up, leaving a lot of big blobs, is there a knack to getting a really fine dusting?

Hi! It was a good day; both teams fought really hard! I had heard of it, but never encountered it before. I do like it; it gives extra reassurance in case some muppet pulls the trigger in the safe zone.

I like the idea of putting a sock over the barrels.

Gamed mine today, what an absolute hoot ! Got some decent kills with it including one at range which surprised me, gave a speculative burst thinking it would make him keep his head down and up went the arm ! 4 mags filled to 160 lasted me a game and the box mag handled them with no issues. My god that thing holds alot of gas ! I went through a complete bottle of green today, although I ran GBB all day. The 249 came out for 2 games , then the L119 A1 and the G3 had a run .

Cracking kit, keeping it simple. Looks almost identical to my setups when I decide to wear a belt.

I identify as This Little Piggy. My pronouns are We/We/We.

There's a lot of sense spoken here. Yes we should be careful as any small group can be portrayed as guilty of wrongthink in the febrile clickbait climate nowadays. That said I'm on the verge of old fartdom now, but I was bought up with the general sentiment that you don't wear badges and insignia you're not entitled to. I take it a stage further and to make sure I absolutely can not be mistaken for a walt pretending to be a real soldier I wear a deliberate mismatch of different camo patterns. (Anyway it breaks up my silhouette. Or something). My first thought about Z or Wagner insignia is that while we should aspire to live in a free-er and more tolerant country I would enjoy shooting at that. I have seen someone in Waffen SS get up but as he didn't have badges as I remember I guess it was okay. My half German nephew raised his eyebrows mind you. I mean if you've got an Stg44 you absolutely must accessorise with I suppose I sort of understand. But frankly I find the lack of historical knowledge and nuance of Gen Z pretty frustrating, one game and we had to grab various flags and once we had the German flag the lad with it was all like "I've got the nazi flag!" He was serious, it was the flag of the modern Bundesrepublik Deutschland and I don't think he understood why I was upset. It's not so much that they're edgelords or dickheads I suspect, but rather that a lot of what we're talking about here can be laid at the door of a simplistic education in history and civics (or lack thereof) in recent decades. Warhammer 40K or Star Wars cosplay and you're on much safer ground.

Thanks both, have done so and there was a very slight bend on the nozzle loading arm, applied some head and bent it back to shape and it's working like a charm now. I think I caused it with a BB double feed during a reload

It's been said well enough already but it's a message worth repeating. When a much younger (but no less handsome 😛 ) hamster was starting out in this hobby he bought himself his favourite gun, a g&g f2000 because bad company 2. Needless to say as a serial tinkerer it didnt take me long to have the thing to bits and back again, and whilst the g&g implementation of the v6 box is an absolute dream to work on compared to an m4 it just means you can skip right past the easy mistakes and into the sneaky buggers that haunt you for years. For example, i installed an active brake mosfet after learning the hard way how quickly an 11.1v lipo can eat a set of trigger contacts if you let it. Had it been your common m4 of ak a new set of contacts is no big deal but being an oddball i had to order a whole trigger module from the states. So began the problems, i could never get it to fire reliably in semi auto, full auto was fine but the lack of semi annoyed me no end. I tried fully rewiring to heavy gauge wire, i tried different motors, i tried different gearing, nothing worked. And so she sat, for years, i loved and still love the quirky look, but every time i'd bring her out to play the janky trigger (bad enough at the best of times) always had me reverting to something else because even if she was running well i just didnt like using it. Turns out that looking good in a video game and actually handling a thing is a big difference. Eventually as my constant tinkering continued i ended up throwing in a warfet that was spare from another build and the penny dropped- gone was the semi auto issues that had plagued her the whole time i owned her, turned out all the fettling and filing of trigger components, lining things up just so wasnt actually the problem, it was the damned active brake. But by this point i was basically an ak convert, turns out that's the platform i most like using/working on, at least as far as airsoft goes. There are 2 key points from this story: 1. Taking some time, and actually getting hands on with a gun is worth the effort, you might love the looks of a particular platform from video games/movies etc and thats absolutely fine but you may well find that what you actually preferr to use irl is something completely different. 2. Jumping straight into trying to modify your pews, especially when you dont have a clear objective in mind and its your only pew is gonna be a recipe for disaster, trust me the walk of shame when your gun's stopped working or is shooting so wildly you couldnt hit the broad side of a barn from inside said barn gets real old the tenth time it happens and when you're just starting out it will happen a lot. That isnt to say you shouldnt get into tinkering with your pew, its fun and ultimately quite rewarding and something i absolutely advocate people should have a go at, but it's definately smarter to wait until you've got a reliable spare to fall back on. As has been mentioned paying someone to work on your pew is a minefield, there are a few about who will do excellent work but just as many who either dont know, dont care or both and will just about go through the motions of fitting whatever expensive parts they think they can convince you to spend money on with no care as to wether or not that will actually improve the guns performance.

I like the use of the rubber gloves, as if that weapon was just used in a murder. Makes a change at least from the usual: 'take a photo of it on your bed with your hobbit feet showing at the bottom.'

My ex says this is where I belong.

As I'm never ever ever ever ever going to sell my Double Eagle M906C, I think I might spray it. I did have a Novritsch 'leafy' gun camo cover on it, but I do prefer the gun 'naked' because ... it looks cooler when it doesn't seem to have had a bit of salad wrapped around it...? Some of you with long memories might remember I've sprayed a couple of guns before: The F2000 was a bit of a homage to my favoured camo in Battlefield 4, but to be honest whilst it was fun to do, the results aren't brilliant close-up... the green painters masking tape I used didn't always make clean edges. The M16 did come out quite well with the scrim, but unfortunately I tried to fix a couple of areas that didn't look so good, and ended up making a pig's ear of it. I'm going to start from scratch on this, maybe with the same pattern as I do for the DE. After all that I have a decent collection of camo spray paints, but I don't just to do a vanilla brown / green / black splotchy effect, and neither do I want to use the scrim net effect again - I want something a little bit bolder so that 1) it looks interesting and 2) the camo actually does break up the the outline of the gun. Y'know, camo that actually camouflages I'm therefore prepared to include a bit of white, bright green, or a bit of dark red (as I've already got those) into the pattern (sparingly though, probably) I'd prefer something I can do 'freehand' with the spray cans, rather than having to use stencils or masking tape, but for the right result I could do that. So if any of you have have some good camo jobs, please share them to give me some inspiration!

if you have a pair then surely there’s nothing more to think about 😛

Seriously tempted to paint the handguard and stock on my two retro builds (TM M733 and neo-retro-ish MWS)

I decided I had to do something during the half time of the world cup final, so went out and dusted the gun with brown and black, and also used a bit of sponge... It's toned the thing down and looks pretty good now I think. I'll post some pics shortly. Of course I still managed to bugger up one bit of it which will grate on me for ever more 🥴

I’ve got a VFC v2 inbound to try out before it goes on as a gift, apparently if you cut the bolt down it’s much better in the cold / gas efficient.

As a big fan of the MP7 too, the VFC version is worth considering isn't it? ... plenty of owners love theirs. The full auto mag dump isn't as good as the TM's though

I mean, you'd think, but even then it seems that some fans take the Immortal Leader of our Race part a bit too far.

I would recommend the newer Arcturus lines. They’re coming out with newer models that feature a collaboration with GATE, but right now the C.A.T. Series and ME series feature extremely solid gearboxes paired with great barrel groups. The externals are good quality, no creaking or cracking, but the star of the show are the reliable, simplistic, and extremely well performing internals. I’m a tech, and very familiar with these, so here’s my more detailed opinions and notes: (I’m long-winded, so there’ll be a TL:DR at the end. Feel free to skip.) The gearbox is the same on all the models from 170 to 400, but the externals go up in quality. The externals are easy to judge for yourself, so here’s my take on the internals. The compression set is 100% good. Steel cylinder, CNC POM nozzle, and cylinder head with great seal. The piston is bulletproof. It’s much tougher than almost all aftermarket pistons. I and another tech both use the stock pistons in DSGs doing 55+ RPS. The gearset is ordinary, but solid. I use the stock gears in upgraded builds doing higher FPS and faster RPS. The trigger unit is a microswitch paired with an inline 3034 MOSFET. This means you have 1,000,000 cycles with no issues, according to manufacturer specs, as well as a tactile “click” to the trigger. The design of the gearbox here does make it very difficult to install any aftermarket trigger units if you ever wanted to, so keep that in mind. Arcturus has a steel QC spring guide that can be accessed just by removing the stock. The motor is a mid-level neo motor that does about 30K, which means you’re hitting 20 RPS on 11.1v (M120 version, faster for the weaker versions) with great response. Don’t expect it to pull any M170s, but it’ll get the job done, and I’ve used them in tougher builds as well doing 25+. The spring is Japanese tempered steel, and is of excellent quality. I tested four of these springs from an Arcturus rep, and got the exact same FPS from each, as well as ~1-2 FPS variance. No change over time, between a heavily used spring and ones right out of the packaging. The gearbox is solid. Nothing special, except for the split GB shell on the CAT models, but it’s strong and easy to work on if anything should happen. Arcturus uses 8mm bushings for spur and sector, and 8mm bearings on the bevel. The barrel group is very, very good out of the box. The hop unit is an ordinary plastic rotary, which works well. The hop rubber is a split design similar to those that Krytac uses. It does the job out to about 60 meters, but you may need an upgrade for farther distances. The barrel is where it stands out, as Arcturus features a 6.02mm steel QPC coated barrel, which is excellent. It’s much better than ZCI and a lot of “upgraded” barrels. They also come wired to deans with a high quality plug. Cons: The only real con is that you’re prohibited from using any aftermarket electronic trigger units, and doesn’t feature an ETU built in. It’s a matter of preference whether you like your RIFs with computers built in, but Arcturus not allowing you an option (yet) is a con for sure. TL:DR, the internals are great, super simple, and will allow you to keep up with players running far more expensive RIFs.

That's a shame, because there are some really lovely non-m4 replicas out there (I'm a big fan of Cyma m14s...). Hard for me to say, as I tend to tinker with all my stuff, but if I wanted something that I knew would perform really well out of the box without any tweaking... I'd try and go for a TM NGRS. However, you'll get better performance for less if you're willing to do very basic upgrades, like swapping out a hop rubber and nub, which is incredibly easy to do on basically anything. I've heard good things about Double Eagle for m4 style rifles and they're a lot less than £400.

Thanks for the Raresoft tip, there's another timesink rabbit hole for me to go down. 😉 Yes it really is a marmite airsoft isn't it! Despite not knowing about guns at all the rest of the family refuse to touch it when they go to a game. The magazine is in the wrong place apparently and that's the end of the conversation, my sister, my nephew my bro in law are all like "NO! Don't want it." Even my nephew despite thinking it could be made to look like a "Halo gun" if he glued some things to it, is very leery of it.

Have you seen the new army training place, was on BBC click today but has been on before…. Wouldn’t mind trying it out 😂 https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001mhy4

To the person who stole my glasses: I will find you. I have contacts.

The core of the the system is… …the Fighting Load Carrier. Sometimes called “flicks” for short, by people who struggle with saying “FLC”. There is a second generation FLC that includes a front zip to close it as well as the chest and waist buckles. This allows for more form fitting wear. Both styles have a removable padded waist belt that adjusts. Mesh from panels with pals mountings. Adjustable rear H-harness and a simple slot pocket on inside each side of the vest. FLC was produced in Woodland, 3 colour desert, Coyote (USMC), UCP and OCP patterns.

Agree with everything said above.......... BUT........ WHY ? Why do you need to upgrade ?, even most of the budget guns are pretty well set up straight outta the box, why potentially waste money for little or no gain, consider what you like the look of, make another post listing your likes & ask people's opinions, & if the stars align, buy the bleeding gun. Then play with it for as long as you can until: A. Something breaks that requires fixing Or B. You are able to positively identify a particular weakness that needs addressing What you quite literally waste on "pre-upgrades" could potentially buy you a second back up gun, a much better investment in my opinion.

The matter was settled, and I paid £50 to store them at a self-storage unit.

Fini…for now 😂

Retro ish build

do it.

First step - which SF Unit shall I clone ? Second step - which era ? third step - start reading . fourth step - how accurate do I want to be ? Fifth step - start spending , be happy .

adhesive vinyl stencils , inbetween the colours This one for example , base coat black add first stencil layer then overspray with olive , next stencil layer overspray with grey then some light dusting of black to blend a little , leave to dry , peel & reveal Optics & accessories to match / same method

You see there are levels of ignorance which I think you have to make some allowance for. I am one of the ignorant. I have never heard of a Keffiyeh. I had no idea whatsoever that the patterns had any symbolism behind them, I just thought they were purely decorative (or in the case of more militaristic ones, sort-of camo) I've been educated today (thank you), but if someone sees a shemagh / Keffiyeh for sale and buys it because they like the pattern... well I certainly couldn't hold them to account for it, because it's something (to borrow a much-mocked phrase) that's "an unknown unknown" to both them and me. Back to the main topic, I've got some personal experience in the Z patch thing. I'm not sure how to, or even whether I should share, but as I'm typing I feel I might as well keep going, see what you guys think... There's a young chap who goes regularly to Spec Ops who has worn a Z patch on several occasions. The first time I saw it my blood boiled. I naturally assumed he was just being a twat, or utterly ignorant. My initial desire was to run up to him, rip it off his arm, verbally abuse him for , and generally put either, or both, of us at risk of getting thrown off the site. Instead I decided to mentally count to 10, and approach it with an opening gambit of "that's a bold thing to wear that today, I can't say I like it". He explained he's Russian, his family back in Russia support the war (presumably brainwashed by Putin etc), and his uncle is actually fighting. He made a comment about the BBC as 'Main Stream Media', fake news about the Russians etc, from which I reached the conclusion that he's in a Pro-Putin environment where they're all soaking up the propaganda. And as he's got at least one family member in the army, it'd be pretty difficult for him to go against that without alienating himself from his close relatives. I kind of put him on my "RL ignore list", but as it turned out he's a nice guy, plays airsoft the right way, didn't push the Z agenda at anyone (though I think he'd defend it when questioned, as he did to me). He became too friendly to ignore, and I've turned a blind eye to his patch, and not talked politics since. He greets me by name, gave me a slice of birthday cake (which some others had turned down - not sure if they were ostracizing him for the patch, worried the cake would have Novichok in it, or just concerned their waist-line would end up like mine... but turning down cake is not something I can do easily). I really don't know if I've dropped my moral compass by not forcefully pointing out that the error of his ways, or being the good person who sees past flaws and make allowance for circumstances. The only thing I can say for sure is I was mightily pleased when he turned up to the last skirmish without the patch, indeed he was wearing British gear I think. Maybe Carlos had had a word with him. So yeah. Slava Ukraini

I've thought about this as I couldn't put my finger on exactly why it was bothering me, but I wouldn't say I'm offended by patches of any sort. I'd say I find it fucking embarrassing. Like, imagine someone from a tabloid or something seeing us playing with a couple of people wearing those, and we would all be tarred with the same brush. Realistically, it should be called out and sites should stamp it out. It's not that far fetched an idea, they've run stories at events moaning people were dressed as terrorists. That's people in jeans, a shirt and a shemagh with an ak. If public perception is that we are a bunch of far right wing A holes who have gun fetishes this hobby is on borrowed time. Especially with an inevitably incoming (and not soon enough) labour government. A proper impression is different and that's just nuance perhaps.

End of the day, z/wagner shit is claiming hundreds+ lives every day, even today, on both sides, & let's not forget that some of those Russians aren't there out of choice, & others may have gone there having been misled by the dictatorships "free" media & state propaganda. On that basis, no site should be allowing these patches to be worn on gamedays, in 30+ years you might get away with them being part of a viable loadout (but I doubt it), but in 2023 they're just symbols of oppression & murder on a massive scale.

LOL, I know what you mean, I had to scroll to the top to check what we're actually discussing, but I'll be grumpily honest & admit I'm so feckin tired of spoon feeding noobs answers to the same questions that have been asked a thousand times before, made worse by wannabe trolls that say shite like "if the plod come round, make an official complaint about wasting time" etc. There's a core of members here, you & I included, that literally have hundreds of years of combined experience within Airsoft, add to that our own personal life experiences & skill sets in numerous professional fields, & I'll bet that not one of us has fallen foul of the law due to how we use/behave/own our Airsoft rifs. Why. Because we've been sensible, applied common sense & been aware of the massive responsibilities of "gun" ownership. Yet we're still having to spell it out to new members ffs.

Pretty sure your wrong, & even if your not, the last bit definitely fails the "attitude test", which as everyone knows, the plod will always win in the long run, if there isn't a precise law to combat an airsoft related "offence", a loosely fitting one will be made to fit lol. Plus when it comes to Airsoft, we need people on our side, especially the police & other figures of authority, otherwise every negative police report is another nail in the coffin for Airsoft in its current form, not something I want to see change.

They're human like the rest of us and 99% of people who have a negative experience with poluce is down to them failing the attitude test. It'll be standard procedure to send armed officers to any call where firearms are involved. Better to over react to something which turns out to be nothing than under react and end up with dead coppers You never know, a chat with the neighbours might even get you a new battle buddy

Like @EvilMonkeesaid, call them. They're really helpful and are a great source for all sorts of parts and accessories. Full of helpful advice too.

Just a quick note to say that airtac have adapted an armorer works drum mag to fit the mp7 so a lot less reloading!