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So WE, a company which made it's name in airsoft by cloning other guns, is getting upset that someone's copying their product. Didn't Alanis Morissette sing about this in the 90's?

a site can have all the clear signage, shouty marshalls and mandatory things you stick on the end of it. the question is: do we trust the average airsofter to do it? the answer?

Yup, I'll now rant the other way about having a not-safe-not-game zone. The delineation should be absolutely clear to everyone, including and especially first timers. I'm baffled by why so many sites seem to make such an absolute hash of the basics.

@Cannonfodder Nope, 🤣 🤣 just taking the piss on that whole youtube genre. I actually hate how they represent the hobby, and i was looking for some youtube tutorials and as soon as you type airsoft in the search bar, here they come !!

Driver Wood too - strongly enforced, and the safe zone feels so much, well, safer as a result. One of the reasons I take mates to Driver Wood for their first experience of the game. I find it bonkers that all sites don't do it. For something so cheap (I knocked up four of them on the sewing machine for pennies, but should be free to borrow from sites with a small deposit put down), there really is no excuse. Unless people are lunatics about the sleek lines of their gats fore ends being disrupted....

Sounds like an evening in with the ex Have you tried the mid week games? Numbers are generally lower so you're not crammed in like sardines and unable to move without immediately getting shot at

Even though it doesn't state it anywhere the motor getting hot in the DE M900's is the small amount of active braking it does, and the crap Chaoli motor exhibits this as the horrible heat. 31k for a motor seems a bit too fast as well? (it's only a little old DE with a Falcon where we can't tweak the amount of braking). Maybe it is time to crack the gearbox open and use a cotton bud with a tiny amount of IPA to clean the optical sensors? Also to add to this thread my son's moved from his upgraded Firehawk to his M906C permanently now. I moved his Maxx Model M4A-PRO to it and swapped to a Maple Leaf 229mm inner barrel and 60 degree MR bucking, using the Maxx solid concave nub, an M105 spring plus XT 22 TPA high torque. Played in a forest yesterday and the range on 0.32g is crazy good. @RostokMcSpoons I wish we lived a bit nearer to each other so we could have a game and be Double Eagle nerds 🤓

You can get a brand new CM.032A delivered to your door for £152 from bbGnuz, if you wait for the discount code.

Probably because a lot of site owners/managers would be incapable of looking after a piece of gravel. It really is quite easy, isn't it? There is the safe zone and areas where BBs might be flying (chrono/range and game zone). All of my regular sites manage this well; there is good signage and the delineation between the areas is very clear. In addition, the transitions between safe and non-safe are designed such that a random BB shot towards the safe zone gate from non-safe cannot make its way in without making at least one 90 degree turn. Which is absolutely reasonable if that is made very clear to players and there is highly visible signage.

This. To quote Obi-Wan, "who's the the biggest fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?" Pretty sure you'd need to be dreaming or high to think £25 less than retail for a broken gun is a good price

It's important to realise something about this situation . WE AIrsoft is a page ran by WETTI/ARmed force in Hong Kong and NOT WE Model. What i suspect has actually happened is that WE Airsoft are licensed to use the WE name on gas in Hong Kong and designed the graphics etc which is why no one outside HK has seen the "original" cans. Gunfire come along to WE Model and license the WE name for Europe (they are a distributor) to make their own WE gas . However they use a graphic owned by WE Airsoft/AF rather than using their own or WE Model's not realising it's the IP of AF and not WE model . WE AIrsoft /AF then get upset and claim it as "counterfeit" I find it somewhat ironic given that WETTI has always and continues to pretend to be WE Model co on social media when they are not. Both gases are probably made at puff dino or similar who make most airsoft gases ,especially ones from Taiwan You are somewhat correct , It's the same "WE" as was involved in that drama because they were upset that WE Europe (later Nuprol) cut them out and went direct to WE Model

Battle Stations this sunday in Snetterton close to Norwich. First time trying a Chest rig instead of battle belt, quite liked it. And i am never playing without prescription insert again for the safety glasses. Cracking field by the way and good marshall team.

We all know why that is Sunday's trip down to Ambush started off badly as the gods of public transport were clearly in a bad mood that morning. One bus that was replacing a train was a no show and another train being 25 minutes late meant that I missed the first couple of games. Fortunately things did start to pick up and the rest of the day went well with some well fought games and no obvious cheating or people playing silly buggers. To top it off I also managed to get caught on film by the site photographer so that's always a bonus

Specna has changed manufacturers around over the years, and unfortunately I’ve never had my hands on any of them. From personal experience contrasted with what I’ve heard, Novi/Krytac perform better more consistently. Are they bad gnus? That seems to depend on the model/OEM, and that I don’t know anything about. It is worth noting that Specna/Novi are quite a bit cheaper than Krytac, which ups my recommendation significantly for either. The squeak is related to the height of the bevel gear in relation to the pinion. The spur gear is pushed upwards by the upraised edges of the bearing hole, which increases bevel height, and causes the sound. This is evident even on extremely high end Krytac builds using extremely nice motors. (I’ve personally tried Tienly, ASG, ZCI, Lonex, etc, and other assorted pinions transplanted onto various motors. I was able to fix the issue by filing the lips of the bearing hole to lower the spur gear by a large amount. The issue then was that the shaft of the spur gear was too long and pressed on the gear for the dual selector, so then more dremel work. It’s not easy to replace the stock set because of classic fitment issues. The Prommy set does work, but from what I’ve heard they’re not good quality (I don’t have personal experience), The original Krytac set are extremely durable (much better than SHS). If you want to increase the speed, I would highly recommend picking up a quality 40K-35K motor, such as Tienly, the ASG Boost 30K (actually 35K), or simply ordering one from ChiHai. As far as I know, the motors are the same size as ordinary long shaft motors, but if not you can simply adjust the motor height, so the minute differences in shaft length should be irrelevant. I’m actually away from home for a while, so I can’t measure mine for you, but if you’d like I can ask around and find more info on the Prommy sets and Krytac shaft length.

Same in the plumbing, heating and white goood worlds. Gloworm boilers are the same as the Vaillant boilers (lower priced models). Many boilers are made of the same mechanical bits, with cosmetic changes and different PCB's. Many showers and taps are the same internally qulity wise because they are made in the same facoty - you end being charged for more expensive visible bits which may or may not have a higher quality finish. Siemens, Bosch, AEG, Smeg washing machine and dishwashers are pretty much identical internally.

Lies!! M83/SAAV was the start of "tacticool" and will fight any child of 3-6 years of age that says otherwise!

Very harsh; I have never been to a site that penalises players for shooting in the game zone.

I've been out of the game for a few months with some pretty pathetic and annoying lower back issues but things are almost back to normal and I've been chomping at the bit to play. I need to go once more down at Red1 Chislehurst to finally get my grubby little mitts on a UKARA. Is anyone thinking of playing down there this Sunday? If so let me know it would be cool to say hi! After I've got that final session for the ukara out of the way I'm thinking its time to branch out and hit a few new/better sites. Slightly limited by public transport out of London but I've got my eye on Reforger (although I've heard its ghillie's galore which is a little off putting personally). I also really would love to get over to Tower Airsoft or Airsoft Plantation which I've seen so many good things about, so would be cool to head there too

have not actually but dont plan on playing there much longer anyways, gonna be playing at chistlehurst in september then finish off my last game for bunker51 some time in october.

Likewise, if you make it to Hitchin or Arlesey train stations, I could take you to Spec Ops.

Fingers crossed dude. I've just bunged a random spare spring in mine now it's a steady 347 fps with stock everything else. Won't be at Spec Ops this weekend now though.

If you want to try a fairly simple, compact woodland site, and can jump on a train to Milton Keynes from Euston, then I could give you a lift to and from the station to Special Ops. https://www.specialopshq.co.uk/

My green QD suppressor has been my preferred thing to run on my VFC HK416 for a while, but I've had a few rounds pinging out of it at odd angles. So what's a man to do but spend some money on an alternative (that might be even worse!) Yup, I bought a barrel extension, and although I've not test-fired to see if it's going to interfere with the BBs, it sure looks bad-ass to my eyes £15 inc p&p from eBay (It's Bullseye Country Sports' ebay shop)

pretty shit site tbh, wet, dark and smells with 2 chokepoints on either side. still had fun tho

You probably know yourself @Colin Allen but there are playing fields very near to Red1 Chislehurst and there will often be kids playing footy on a Sunday morn, both times I've been down there marshals made a point during briefing of telling players not to shoot out into the playing fields on purpose. The fact people need to be told (and will still subsequently ignore it if they think they can get away with it) does indicate the generally pitiful state of the moral and intellectual playing field. As a relatively new player I find the 'safe' zone to feel quite unnerving most of the time and I do find myself worrying about how blasé other people are r.e safety. Making those barrel socks mandatory in the safe area seems like a no brainer. It almost seems like the sort of thing that airsofters and site owners should throw their weight behind en masse. Seems like such a simple and effective solution to make things safer

Decided to paint a suppressor and my spare Eotech to match the new colour scheme on the DE. The khaki looks a bit duller - maybe I didn't "rattle" enough? Or maybe I just did too thin a coat. Ahhhh, it's good enough

No, which is why sites need to deal far more robustly with the fuckwits. At one of my regular sites, part of the safety brief warns players not to shoot towards the few adjacent properties and sets out the consequences. They can only be shot towards from a very small area of the very large site and are situated such that they are not in the line of fire for any games; you have to make a conscious decision to shoot at people's homes. Just before the last game, a player started shooting towards them; a very angry site owner told him rather forcefully to leave the site. One of the things that I like about the site is that they are not afraid to throw out people who are behaving like idiots or ruining the day for other people.

youre god damn right, my wallet doesnt agree though

Great gun, but I wouldn't pay that for one that was working fine, got mine with 7 mags for nearly half his price. Dreamer lol🤔

yeah, it was hell. all because of a sticker I now have a spare perun hybrid with a shredded wire and a bag of spade connectors.

just fixed her up after a week of work and a couple mishaps

I think the produced under licence which has now expired is the most likely explanation. This wouldn't be the first time WE have parted ways with another company before slinging mud and creating silly drama on social media. Anyone else remember the WETTI/WE Europe spat? I guess a gbb one doesn't work in the cold and will only hold 2 pairs of socks and a t shirt

Surely the whole song is satirical? Listen to the sardonic delivery of "And yeah, I really do think" [that's ironic]. And yeah, I really do think it's ironic for pretty much anyone but Toyko Marui or a few others to complain about intellectual property and knock-offs. I hear the AEG ones have a high capacity but are prone to rattling.

She should replace one of the existing lyrics with this example, because "rain on your wedding day" isn't irony.

Beat me to it. I could yeet mine further than it fires

Well, I manged to not leave anything behind. And the pew is no worse off than it was before. A BB came out with a little more oomph, btu the mag dumping is still the same.

I also have a visionking x1.5-x6 one going on 4+ years and it works perfect for £70 I paid for it. I did not go for the short dot version as I wanted wider FOV.

With food and drink, a lot of items are made in the same factory with either identical ingredients or very slight changes. Like M&S and Copella apple juice is exactly the same, but tesco might be in the same factory, but will have more 1% more sugar. Petrol is another good example. I would imagine there's not many factories producing airsoft green gas, so I would wager it's the same base product with maybe a minor amount of silicon difference.

Most gats will lift 0.28s with the simple addition of a replacement hop rubber (typically Maple Leaf), and a replacement nub (typically an Omega). My DE with those lifts 0.32s and pushed them out to nice ranges (over 50m)

Totally - 2 sub £200 guns will be much better than one fancy schmancy one that WILL go wrong one day leaving you with zero guns until its fixed. The extra £300 won't necessarily mean it lasts longer either. Well - that's how I've justified my ever-growing gun wall.... There's always space for one more.

That sounds a bit harsh? ☹️

First game with my new DE M906C (thanks @RostokMcSpoons). First impressions are great. Chrono'd bang on 300FPS on 0.25g with remarkable consistency for "a chinese gun", and suddenly I have more range than I know what to do with. Clearly my 2010s-era common knowledge on airsoft brands and QC needs a big fat update!

Pretty happy with this setup, has been several years in the making and refinement. TM MWS, a few minor changes to make it ambi and loft 0.32g BBs. TacBelts paracord ends for the Slingster keep it quiet and the Brownells forend keeps it old school. Waiting on a carry handle as they are like Unity Mounts but prettier. Spiritus Mk5 for 3 rifle mags and a pistol speed loader in a Esstac Kywi (kydex trimmed to allow the feeder lips to protrude…Matron!) I can top off 3 mags from this to save carrying extra weight. IFAK with actual kit I or others might need (make use of my FREC3 qualification somehow) FRV belt (back before they stopped actually supplying customers) with USP holster and TM USP, Direct Action dump pouch holding an M4 kywi for slick reloads and an added elastic leg strap a la TrexArms. Kydex Kustoms holder for the AlphaTex BFG. This set up is plenty for the usual skirmish and if I am really lazy I can run just the chest rig and Mk5 pyro on the elastic strap on the side. The coyote brown goes with most things, even the slightly faded SADF M83, and either civvy or Ranger Green gear.

I identify as This Little Piggy. My pronouns are We/We/We.

But Maybe they are right and you might find yourself in a youtube video titled “AIRSOFT CHEATER WONT TAKE THEIR HITS until i go close to them and revenge killed by headshot with my HPA shooting 13 000 bbs per second” And then you’d have to move to a different county and change you name and loadout to escape the burning enduring shame

Don't bother, I have one & they're shite.

Upper / lower / handguard etc this is where to me it’s shining , it’s really nicely finished , trademarks are crisp , the rifle while light is solid and very robust feeling ( apart from those sights and stock wobble ) barrel to receiver fit is good with no movement , handguard is again rock solid as you’d expect .anodising throughout is clean and in my opinion high quality , a nice satin sheen . I would say in this regard the overall feel of it is on par or better than a TM rifle .all screws , pins , mag release , fire selector , castle nut are steel . Tbc Standard WE 2.0 yields an average 290 fps with .30g BB , overall so far I like it , it’s what I’d call a petite rifle , the super slim handguard really makes it feel different , minimalist and light . so if you are looking for something different to a MK18 or URGI then this could be just the ticket for an out of the box platform it’s pissing hard here at the mo so still no proper range test but semi and auto are very good , running from beginning to end of the mag with no noticeable cool down , firing cycle is pretty sharp and trigger feels good compared to my WE rifles . some fancy pics will report back once I get a proper chance to shoot it 👍🏼

Ok , I’ll keep It brief for now and a “first impressions” rather than a full strip down . It’s worth me noting that I do not have a TM MWS here next to me for a direct comparison but I have had a bit of time with them here and there , WE M4 platform GBBR is my main go to for my collection purely for ease of parts and selection . And Tokyo Marui for pistols .However I’m hoping to have an MWS on loan so I can perhaps do a few side by sides but no idea when then might be , likely end of the month . The box - standard issue , cardboard and foam , silica packs . Nothing about this is TM , think King Arms . It’s a box to get the gun from A-B. Although nicely printed. inside you’ll find the rifle , magazine , iron sights ( we shall get to those later ) , speed loader adapter and a baggie of words . magazine looks pretty decent , not as nice as the guns modify and I suspect these are Ace-1 arms ? RS Ranger plates do not fit , however looking around they can be had for £35-£40 ish from HK so if they hold gas and feed fine could be a cheaper way of boosting that load out . feed lips and router look pretty good , speed loader adaptor is a perfect fit to a TM loader and loads the magazines beautifully Tbc. Stock is a Magpul clone , a little wobbly on the tube nothing that couldn’t be shimmed so standard airsoft really , RS MOE-SLK fits very well and the rattle is reduced by at least 50% .(pics later ) grip is a Magpul K clone , nicely made , no branding and I will test fit a genuine one later . iron sights …. Ugh , horrible cheap plastic , wobbly , grim . A real let down . Fitted for the pictures but they will go in the bin tbh . steel flash hider is nice quick break down , upper to lower fit is excellent , no play whatsoever and the pins are lovely and snug needing a pin pusher to release Bolt and buffer assembly all seem pretty decent , a magnet over the trigger group shows alot of steel parts bolt is nice , all seems well fitted together ,although it was very dry so gave a quick wipe over with a light oil , spring is fairly soft , cocking the rifle the return is what I’d describe as lazy but this may be because it was dry and not run in . tbc.

Like is it generally frowned upon if you get too close to enemy spawn because it is spawn camping? Yes. Should you call hits if your own team shot you? Yes. Does ricochet count as hits? No. How do you execute a knife kill, and does it only count if the enemy hasn't noticed you and if you do it , or can you engage a enemy around a corner and try to land a stab as they try to shoot you or is this not allowed? Depends on the site but it's usually a light tap to the t-shirt area, with a suitable larp safe melee weapon. It counts if you manage to do it and you're not dead when you do it. Trying to stab someone with a larp weapon around a corner could be viewed as blind firing. Most larp safe knives are still "pointy" to a degree, thrusting it wildly round a corner, hoping for a melee kill is pretty dangerous. You could knock off eye pro, jab someone in the ear, who knows what? I wouldn't recommend it.