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My 2. Both TM recoils.

You listen to people too much mate. The G&G SCAR is a solid gun and I even found one for you in a sea of out of stocks. Buying Airsoft weapons is like buying shoes - you cant ask somebody else to do it for you.

No. Please don't buy from justbbguns!!!!!! Just look at the justbbguns thread. They're utter rip off merchants (and they lie about a load of their products too) That M4 is £80! WHAT? It will probably be made of sh*t plastic. The internals are most likely plastic as well. You won't be able to upgrade it. It looks terrible. It WILL be out ranged by everything else. I could go on... You can get a G&G Combat Machine M4 for £100-120! A battery and charger maybe £20-£30 more at the most. You're only paying £50 more and trust me you will be getting a MUCH better gun. Everyone recommends them if you have looked around at some other threads you will notice how popular they are because they're so good. Much better quality, excellent range and accuracy (performance to rival much more expensive guns) If you're gonna buy from a 'bbguns' site then I'd spend 20 absolute max on a springer pistol or something if you just want it for messing around with doing target practice. There should be a lot of useful guides around here for beginners or how to start and everything. I think it is UnrustleThineJimmies who has all the really useful links in his signature. Oh and welcome to the forums by the way.

the internal designs of airsoft guns haven't changed all that much since you stopped playing, your CA gun will be absolutely fine on a 7.4v LiPo, 11.1v will eventually burn your trigger contacts out though. regarding brands, for AEGs TM are still king of the hill, their recoil shock range are the best out-of-the -box guns you can buy at the moment. G&G will be new to you, they're a taiwanese brand that in the last few years have really shaken up the budget-mid range market by offering very high quality stuff at reasonable prices. G&P / VFC may also be new names, both are widely regarded as being high quality. The external finish of their guns will be like nothing you've seen before when compared to the older CA and TM stuff. Thankfully there's no law covering the OWNERSHIP of a RIF (realistic imitation firearm) so you'll be able to play at any site with it no problem, you will however need to avail yourself of a 'defence against prosecution' before anyone can legally sell you another one. UKARA is the easiest and most widely accepted method of doing this, and it only takes 3 games in no less than 2 months to meet the criteria.

STOP THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW. Youre turning me on and I cant handle it

Behave, it's a piece of piss. As long as you have three hands

All three of those are a pile of wank, dont waste your money. Get a G&G combat machine.

My SMP project is moving swiftly along. No way near finished but will be by end of September. The TR4 before any changes,well this is my other one but it's standard. After a few changes, DD RIS, ICS QD SILENCER, G27 STYLE GRIP.

I love the look of PBS-4 suppressors. The design seems to shout, "We're Russian: we don't care what you think of it; you'll be smirking on the other side of your face when it's pointed at you!" And I have an aluminium one which is approx 45mm wide across the 'bottle', but with an internal diameter of about 26mm, and 'neck' OD of approx 28mm / ID 8mm - so it weighs 540g, which is bloody heavy to have on the end of even a short barrel like an AKS-74U, which is what the real steel was made for. Now Phatima, my Krinkov, is ICS and full steel, so you'd think that the weight would balance ok... but it doesn't, not with the stock extended let alone folded. It makes carrying her for long periods annoying due to being front-heavy - the stock, although steel, is after all just a couple of U section rods and a connecting piece. I had been planning a build based on a G&P aluminium receiver and a real 'steel' Izhmash manufactured wooden '74 stock which, had it still proved too light, I could have stuffed with a heavy iron bar in the space for the cleaning tool cylinder*. But the bloke whom I had asked to drill the stock out for me so that the receiver lug would fit into it (whom i had considered, if not a friend exactly, someone with whom I was on good matey terms and he was also my downstairs neighbour ffs) has disappeared with both the receiver and stock. I mean, what a cunt! He's not even into airsoft and it's not like i was asking him to do it for free either - there was a drink in it for him. V^^VGrrrrrrrrrrrrr! *I have 4 of these bars which came inside a crappy bright orange springer Beretta CX4 Storm which I bought in the hope of being able to turn it into an AEG for a Battlestar Galactica loadout - yeah, well internally it is so shit that the only way to do it would be to basically smother everything in place with a hot glue gun, so that has gone firmly on the back burner until I come up with a better idea or can be arsed to create some kind of mould I can grease up so the hot glue doesn't stick so I can then fit AEG innards into the spaces left when it hardens. In the meantime These lumps of iron have proved far more useful than i would have imagined, had i known they were inside when i bought the poxy thing. But, as is my wont, I digress... But then I picked up some of an AK-47 Beta Spetsnaz front end dirt cheap. It's plastic but surprisingly decent quality, so possibly TM, and I have a few bits spare like the end caps for handguards, rear sights, screws, bolts, body pins... so a plan began to form in my mind - a very short AK with light forward parts and heavier rear end (and by all means go there gentlemen, I may be too jaded to make the effort for such little reward, but I'm as likely to snigger at Beavis & Butt Head -esque comments as the next overgrown boy). The initial problem is that there is no steel receiver within my budget (possibly no longer being manufactured) which will fit with the TM barrel base assembly, only VFC / LCT clones. With those I can find available being much of a muchness in terms of no side rail mount, I'm fairly well decided on buying another G&P receiver - the last one I had was good and robust and then there is the few tines of extra metal sticking out the back to attach the stock, compared to the King Arms, Classic Army and TM Clones plus it has a more substantial stock-lug than the G&G, which is also magnesium, so probably lighter than I'm after. So the plan thus far will look like this, but without the trades... I also really dislike the look of Crane stocks and their ilk, but I do want an extendible stock on this gun, plus for the role I have in mind, FIBUA, a folding stock would also be a bonus (more on the 'logic' of the gun later). I do like the look of those LR300 stocks and since they are made from quite chunky metal, that would fit the plan. Like this... The other week I ordered an Ak to M4 Stock Adapter which will fit the G&P style AK Receiver, so this type of stock will work and at 750g it should do the trick of balancing the gun even folded, but when i went looking for one I came across another couple which I think could look great too, so now I can't decide... ...I wasn't sure this^^ Tanker style one would be heavy enough to balance the suppressor, but according to airsoft-club they weigh 1/2 a Kilo. But there's also this which I've seen called both HM and CM (any help with the name wba): ...which weighs 550g and the way it folds up like that is tdb for packing into a kitbag! I'll also need a vertical foregrip which needs to be light. Really it ought to combine a torch mount, because there isn't enough rail space for a separate piece of kit, but there are very few i like the look of. There's no way i'm spending $60+ on one either when i can get a better torch for <$15 I love the look of these: ...but i've only seen them @wgc and black is oos. Still, I'm going to paint it all anyway so i could get a tan one. Can you imagine that in front of an AK drum mag? Tomski gun! Not sure that I will use a drum mag, but I definitely don't want it as tall as Phatima with an RPK mag, perhaps not as tall as a '47 banana-mag, but if i was going to put up with the rattle from those 220rnd short AK hicaps, i may as well put a 2500rnd drum on it and save myself the blasted winding! If I did go for the last of these three stocks, maybe a foregrip like this would suit the style better: It'll also need a red dot, because the front and rear irons are far too close together. I have two different rear sight replacement mounts, one for a Docter MRDS and the other which puts a 3" rail above where the sights go, so i could use my C-more clone as i have a Kobra clone on order for Morena, my AK-74. I dunno though - for balance it may turn out better to have the optic above the top cover and I do have a spare side mount which i could attempt to fit, but i have to say i'm not convinced that without workshop tools i could fit it well enough to use and i also have my doubts about the width of the nut vs the width of the gearbox. I'm not sure i could bring myself to get one of those top cover mounted rails though. I dunno, i expect that if there is a centre of gravity problem I could sort it out by gaffer taping an iron rod to whichever stock i choose - i've done that on Sabine to offset her aluminium RAS vs plastic receiver and it looks fine and feels way better for her being heavier per se. Anyway people, opinions please and any suggestions for stuff i haven't mentioned would be greatly appreciated.

I wanted an SMLE, only Iron airsoft made an SMLE and it had a really bad reputation. I got one anyway and had to fix everything just to get it working. I now have a fully functioning Gas powered SMLE and expert knowledge of how everything in it works. It was pretty daunting to have to take everything apart but with guides on the internet and a bit of patience it becomes easy.

P90 SCAR-L CQC M249 Para (yes, you can do this. I have) Couple of pistols and shed load of mags. G36K HK 416 To be honest a lot of people will tell you that you have to have something short for CQB. Now, I'm not about to tell you that an M14 is fine (although I have seen it done and an M16) but anything as long as a standard M4 will be fine for CQB. It's not the size of your gun, it's how you use it (oo-er).

Ok, ok I'm getting the G&G scar........ It is what I wanted

You've clearly never tried to put a version 2 gearbox back together lol, fun and easy to do are the last words that come to mind when you have an anti reversal latch to deal with

They've done lots of M4's.

Yeah NiMh is a step up from NiCad but it's still pretty stone age. I'd definitely recommend going straight to LiPo, you'll notice the difference and it'll save you buying a load of NiMh batteries that you'll end up replacing anyway! As for guns performing at site max straight from the box, even the 'higher end' (with the exception of TM, they're still kicking it at ~300fps every time) have large variations in FPS from gun to gun out of the box, websites will quote 340 / 320 / etc but that's more of a median average than an actual number for the exact gun you'll get. Some retailers (pro airsoft supplies are good for this) if you give them a call will find you one that shoots the velocity you want just by opening boxes and checking them til they find one. If they can't find one, or have limited stock for a small fee they'll normally open it up and put a new spring in for you. That said, if you're not going cheap and you want a SCAR, I highly recommend the TM SCAR, best one on the market by a country mile; recoil simulation (it has a big lead weight that moves around inside to make the gun shake), magazines stop the gun firing when empty, extremely accurate external detail and colour and the best hop-up unit available anywhere.

I would say, perhaps buy an NIMH and try the gun out on that. You could move to LiPo but I'm not sure as to whether the gun could take it or not. For cheap starter guns, you would be looking at G&G combat machine range, I have one myself. Practically bomb proof, costs pennies and out shoots a lot of guns twice the price! Welcome to the forums as well P.S everyone will recommend the G&G CM for m4. If you are looking for something else, perhaps an mp5 or whatever tell us, and also mention your budget

OK. Once again everyone is missing the point. The OP wants to know what he needs to have a shorter outer barrel on a Raider Long. This video is for putting a shorter barrel on a standard CQC length Raider but the principle should be the same: Then you're going to need to buy your new outer barrel, i would suggest a 10.5" one which will still allow you to re-use the existing front sight post. After that you're going to need a new inner barrel of the correct length (should be 300mm). Most aftermarket inner barrels are going to be tight bores so look for something as per the suggestions above which is a 6.03mm inside diameter. (check AK2M4.co.uk for these). Then you'll need to fit it (best doing this while the gun's apart for changing the outer) Then you'll need to post pictures here so we can all tell you what a wonderful job you've done/how to make it work again

This, I yelp like a bitch when a beeb hits the muffin tops

What really hurts is being shot on the love handles

I imagine if a bb got a solid connection with an actual bollock it'd hurt a fair bit but I've only ever had a bit of sack contact which isn't that bad. With a couple of layers it's nothing to worry about. You have to be very unlucky or in something of a dubious position to get a proper smacker on a knacker. Maybe I'm over thinking it a little...

Trousers?

*ahem* Tactical waist pack.

One from saturday

Or this one

Chav loadout..

I guess that makes me a girlfriend stealer

Thanks all, saved my life there, for the g&g combat machine, what cheapish battery pack and charger do you guys recommend that will last me?

MAG 190 rounders. Im yet to see a gun they havnt worked in.

Have a look the information already on these forums. The is plenty of high quality threads about starting airsoft. JB

Any G&p Ar-15

Just a quick follow up, I recieved a bottle of Blaster .25's today, I'm pleased to say that this has resolved the issue Crazy that I have a duff pot? are there batch numbers on the bottles at all? (I can't see one) as it may help others to know what batch this came from!

It's just an M4, an M733 doesn't have a flat top upper

You should not carry a tourniquet for airsoft!. A torniquet ("Combat Aplication Tourniquet" or otherwise) is for managing major haemorrhage caused by vascular damage, uncontrollable by direct pressure to the site. In reality this equates to a few very specific situations, namely traumatic amputation or partial amputation (including blast trauma) of a limb, and Penetrating trauma to a limb. Can be as a result of blunt trauma, Sharp trauma (stab wounds) or ballistic trauma. The evidence coming out of recent conflicts have noted that CATs significantly increased the mortality rates of blast trauma victims, mainly IED and ground level shrapnel discharges. Soldiers that have their legs shredded by shrapnel and multiple vascular injuries can bleed out very quickly, and with that type of injury there is more than one wound to dress, so the only way to stop the haemorrhage is to isolate the limb. Complications can lead to nerve damage at best, but will inevitably lead to a loss of the limb and a build up of potentially fatal toxins as the cells start to necrose. If a CAT is released incorrectly then it is a death sentence! In airsoft we should never ever be in a position where any of these injurys are a legitimate risk to need to carry one. If you ever do find yourself in a position like this then you need to get onto 999 and move the patient to a suitable assess point for the ambulance crews.

Welcome to the forums Nice introductory post, helps get the cogs turning right off the bat and there are no stupid questions, I like you already haha. First and foremost, UKARA is just for buying guns from retailers, it isn't a legal requirement, there's nothing written in law about it, and when carrying out private sales it isn't required (though some people will still ask for it). There are countless - Literally, I'd rather shoot myself than try and count them - topics in the law section that will include everything you'd ever want to know about the legal side of things. I imagine your Classic Army rifle is more or less the same internally as their newer iterations, there haven't been a lot of hugely technological advances in terms of bog standard version 2 gearbox tech, the gun ought to be perfectly fine running 7.4v LiPos, just steer clear of 11.1s unless you've inspected the internals and made sure they can take it. MOSFETs are generally advised for the sake of the trigger contacts when using 11.1s too. If your gun works though, there's no reason not to field it. When looking for a shiny new pewpew it helps us narrow it down if you give us a budget and some search parameters, style of gun, intended use (CQB/woodland/etc). G&G are generally the go-to manufacturer, if G&G make something that suits your requirements, it will likely be the most cost effective option with regard to cost for performance in relation to the other options on the market. G&G are epic. As for finding sites, have a look on Google for the Airbana airsoft map, Facebook can be a good resource too, or you could ask the players at the two sites you mentioned, they're bound to play in numerous other sites around the same area. There'll probably be someone on here who lives in your area who will know about other local sites too. I think I've covered everything... If you need any help navigating the forums then drop one of the mods a PM, we're all listed here: Meet the mods.

Try AirLab

I do rather like that.

I have been playing paintball for I while and my mate said he was gonna stop it and play air soft so I gave it a look and it more of my style I have played a match and it was awesome! so I need to know all the basics like best beginner gun and equipment I looked throgh some forms but they are mostly sidetracks I need people to cut to the chase. Thanks

holy f*ck that looks awesome. Would love to go to america again just for an airsoft event, wish we had something like this in the UK (same kind of landscape, none where I live)... all the things I could do with money.

am i mistaken or is that a fanny pack?

When you are wearing that Loadout do you turn up in this car

Needs to be fitted with these obviously.

Just bought another cm16, this time the raider for a mate. He's going to pay me back, just means he won't have to rent at the upcoming skirmish.

I think Simon has just set the benchmark with regards to this thread Anyway, from Frontoweic (my favourite soviet camo supplier): Tarzan M22 (olive drab) vest. Mazkalat KZM "Oak" (Partizan) complete camo set. 383,00 PLN = £74.66 ~ including international shipping.

Mine:TM VSR pro 10 with WE glock 19 Brothers: G&G Combat Machine

Why is it that every time there's a thread about games on any non gaming specific forum it always seems to be primarily populated by people that don't actually play many games if any at all? Destiny looks reasonable but it's not entirely lighting my fire yet. It does very much feel like "what Bungie did next". More looking forward to The Division to be honest. That and the new Rainbow Six.

You won't be able to get something skirmishable for £30.

I think it looks totally shite, not gonna lie. The prospect of people buying a PS4 exclusively for it is beyond ridiculous.

It's a child and his his grandmother ..... stop being so delicate!

This thread just got interesting.

PLEASE STOP HAVING MORONIC UKARA DEBATES BEFORE I NUKE THE ENTIRE WORLD Thank you.