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So much to unpack here. But I can't be arsed. This is an Airsoft forum - can we keep 'Left' and 'Right' politics out of it?

You seem to be doing a good job of demonstrating that you have a problem with women. Keep digging that hole.

Whilst not strictly Airsoft related - I got an Airbrush setup for my Birthday which I'll be using it to paint some of my spare RIFs.

No offence, but the reason I enjoy chatting with like minded airsoft addicts on here (and avoid fb etc) is that this kind of stuff is usually not a feature. I must still ask though... Did you help found UKF? Your concerns seem to be similar to Robin Page's.

Oh yeah, those refunds will be paid out promptly...... 😉

Twice in one week, Michael!

Marushin or Chinese clone mossberg 500. Its gas. The valve is in the space where the shell loader would be and bbs are loaded into the mag tube via the end cap if I remember correctly. Parts will be almost impossible to come by and they leak like a sieve.

Using the term "snowflakes" is, in itself, an insult; strangely, it is a term that seems to be most often used by people who are offended by those who disagree with them. People have different values, standards and views; learn to live with it. If you keep breaching FB's and YT's community standards, people will report it, not because they are "upset" but because you have breached the standards. I have had a few FB bans in the past when I have been overly harsh in "discussion" with right wingers and racists. You just have to learn to play within the rules. Your comment on "feminists" is possibly rather more revealing than you realise; combined with some of your posts on here, it provides quite an interesting insight into the person behind the username.

A bit confused how they manage to find 400 odd people to give them money tbh, as far as i can remember these events, have the worst possible reputation, the last 3 at the very least have the exact same issues, 8 Marshall's - 400 players, unique site, but no idea how to actually run the site, weird inconsistent rulesets. 1 time it could be forgiven, if they improved, but doing it over and over is ridiculous. by the stories coming out each event you'd think this was their first run, not going on for 7 years now.

I never stated that you were a right winger; I could not care less what your politics are. I do, however, apologise for not realising that you were using "snowflakes" as a compliment. I am sure that you get a kick out of mansplaining to those uppity women; I am sure that it gives them a positive view of you and opens them up to the arguments that you are making.

More so than airsoft retailers selling without a real defence? Going by what we've been told, his parents are commendably cautious, know about (but don't approve of) his IF, and it's securely stored between game days. That's what will protect our hobby, not the laws around selling and buying which are more honoured in the breach than the observance. And the harsh reality is that anyone can get a RIF by the application of a little paint, or by buying 2nd hand from someone who doesn't ask for a defence. I wouldn't recommend that OP do either of those, but telling him not to won't actually prevent it. We're not his dad, so to speak. Sniper tape is a decent compromise, and the one I'd advocate.

OK.. laugh all you want... Was at the AI500 this weekend, and bought this little guy from ammo drops on site shop. Tokyo Marui LCP2 NBB gas pistol. All jokes aside, I was actually able to get 8 confirmed and 2 possible kills (due to number of friendlies also engaging same handful of enemy players) with this little thing... I may need to carry it more often Bought for shits and giggles... Best £80 I have spent in a long time

I would imagine, as with many non Airsoft events, people go for the event itself, much like NAF. It's not just the airsoft, it's the size of it, the social aspect etc. And then, taking music festivals in as an example, some can be utter shit shows but still make money every year. There's one metal festival I won't go to for various reasons, but the final deciding factor for me is that the regular crowd consists of utter tossers. And I'm not the only one that feels that way. But it's a big event, makes loads of cash, despite even the regulars thinking the organisers are assholes and complaining vociferously about the event on social media. But they all go again next year. Airsoft events as big as NAF and AI500 aren't really that widespread, as they're a ball ache to put on, so for those that want a BIG experience they don't have that much choice. None of the above excuses the poor organisation I've been hearing about from AI500 AGAIN, just musing on why people keep going back.

"If you marshalling yourselves then the game will run so much better" See lads, you don't need marshalls.

Such a pity that you had to throw in a childish attempt at an insult at the end.

Gunman’s Namsoft series continued at Eversly Alpha with a one off objectives day to replace the sadly cancelled Cajun Chicken game. The weekend consisted of short-ish limited objectives in the rhododendron forest that stretches over chalk stream laced hills of mixed solid and marshy land. Part of the aim was to get the teams back into the team objective ethic. I think that Josh was tiring of the cat herding exercise tbh. Due to Covid a few players were down, and final team numbers were US 12, VC and PAVN 7. We were missing a couple of lipos for some reason, and I couldn’t use the support gun. Back to the spare/loaner CYMA AK47 then. Saturday morning saw the usual high standard of brief complete with maps and an A4 handout that covered rules and safety etc. We were issued our VC tunnel trapdoors. These act as re-spawn bags, and can only be set up by the VC players (not PAVN). We had to deploy three and stop them being found by the GIs. This was a real ding-dong battle to wake us up, as I think that we underestimated the size of the playing area and distributed the doors in too small an area. Luckily, we managed to distract the US team into a series of fights that led away from them. By close of play though, only one remained undiscovered. Second objective was to take three boxes to a specified drop off point, where they would be safe. A team of four took the boxes, two carrying and two on the flanks to guard them. The remaining three of us formed a fire team to engage and distract the US team. We did excel ourselves this time. We must have pinned down about a dozen or so players continuously. By rapidly moving, shooting and moving again, we fought for possession of the wall area of the site for what seemed forever, whilst the other squad sneaked two boxes through. Not a bad result, and a huge amount of fun. Absolute constant action and intelligent gameplay. After lunch, we had to defend the fort against the US players. This went less well. We were simply too small a force to hold a static objective. WE were quickly overrun, although another player and I managed to leave the fort and intercept the other team as they attacked, shooting a fair few in the back. In retrospect we were going to lose this from the start, but it was great fun ambushing the unsuspecting enemy players. By now we were sweating buckets and the post lunch dip had been chased away by sheer hard work. The fourth section was the best. For this, the US team had to push through a valley, which they were not allowed to leave, and take three objectives, whilst we occupied the sides/slopes. We deployed three VC one side, four PAVN the other. We really minced the US in this game. We actually pinned them down to the point that the marshal decided to make us retreat to the next objective. I was really impressed that no one threw a strop through frustration. There was none of the ‘they must be cheating to beat us so badly’ bollox. The last big push of the day was hilarious. As we had a radio, we asked for the next objective to be taken. When we arrived we were alone, and radioed in that we were two to 30. The reply was ‘do your best.’ In the event, the rest of the team had already deployed in front of us. The US were told that they faced two players… They sauntered up and got hammered. I was well dug into a shallow pit at the top of a hill. When we were finally pushed back, I lay undiscovered listening to my mate who was in charge; describe how the hill was basically clear, and that they had merely to rush it. I could hear someone breath the other side of the mound of earth that I lay behind and as I readied myself to shoot them the second that they showed themselves the final whistle went. The chap stood up and almost had a heart attack. Despite slotting several players in the course of their advance, I’d been forgotten about. I was perfectly placed to shoot the US team from the back if they had advanced. We went to our campfires feeling great with a lot of story swapping and I discovered that I had forgotten my bloody steak! Luckily another attendee gave me their left over chili and some pitta bread. We had a really decent talk around the camp fire as the rain drizzled. A fair few beers were drunk. A few new friends made and stories swapped. The previous evening, we’d all shared an exquisite curry that someone had made. We were eating and drinking like Gods all evening, and it was a bloody good laugh. Great bits: the whole scenario was a great idea and really appreciated as a replacement for Cajun Chicken. The gameplay was great, there was no arguing or bad sportsmanship. Wearing pure black teaches you proper field craft. There is no room for error when you stick out like a sore thumb. I was soon festooned with fern and green from scrambling through trees. Poor bits: the rain on Sunday led to mass departures. I ended up being the only opfor player, and the game was cancelled. I was asked if I wanted a glorified game of hide and seek, but Mrs TPH had developed a bug in the night and looked proper poorly, so I opted for an early bath. We packed up and by 11 it was lovely and sunny, and we could have played for a few hours, even if you were unprepared for playing in England in October… Seriously, throwing a poncho on is hardly hard work! This was one of the absolute best games that I have ever played. It really leaves skirmishes in the shade. I got home after a nearly five hour drive and still felt energized. Number 1 son slept the whole journey home through exhuastion; Mrs TPH was coughing but happy. Shame that people left so early and again the numbers were low. We should have been playing Cajun Chicken too, which matches the rain perfectly. This was cancelled due to low sales. I wonder if fuel bills and inflation will kill a few games from now onwards. Covid certainly kept a few away. I hope that this is a lull and not a trend. Given the quality of the event, a shame it had to end early. It was well worth the effort and expense, and I am really looking forward to next year’s Nam season. Du ban GI!

I wish we had 30 US. There were 12 of us on the Saturday! This is us just before the meat-grinder of the last game which was an absolute bloody nightmare. At one point the entire squad was being held back by one lone VC who played a blinder of a game. Whilst I was bleeding out waiting for a medic the marshals explained we'd had it so easy in the third game so they were going to make us work for this one. And I tell you we really did as we were funneled into the valley and had to fight our way up the track getting shot at from all sides. Kudos to everyone who played though. I really liked the missions, everyone got into the spirit of the Nam and the small numbers meant we worked as a squad all day. The kit everyone had was amazing as well. A lot of effort was made by both sides and it made a huge difference.

All I can say is that anyone that feels mugged off by the AI500, or even the NAF, you've kinda got yourself to blame, historically both events have a very chequered & well publicised history, AI events have pretty much always been crap, sometimes mediocre crap, but more often than not absolute dogshit crap, & the NAF is what it is, it's good & bad points have been well documented & fairly consistent, so players should know what to expect & know whether that's what they want out of an event. Google, forums, & even fb is your friend, piss easy to consult them before you pay your deposits & potentially piss your hard earned down the shitter😏

As above. If you rotate the tab on the 6th pic you should be able to slide the end of the gas tube out which will allow you to load bbs through the opening in the 7th pic. Depending on whether its a 6 or 8mm version there should be either 1 or 3 tubes to hold the ammo Great fun when they work, but I ended up swearing at mine more than by it

Are. They. Fuck. The likes of Eagle6 or Kingdom of Airsoft wouldn't exist is they were the 'best' guns out of the box. Hold on...are we being trolled here by the OP...?

.. or .. buy another cheap sight and get a sight protector from Red Dot Engineering on eBay. Quite a few of us use them, for a tenner each they're very good. I've got one of them on all my recent purchases. (On my older kit I bought polycarb discs and wedged 'em in, but the RDE solutions are much better)

The opposite to being shit I aim to please

I'd guess that mall site is into five figures for a weekend, with the usual hair-splitting over whether it's in-use and non-derelict for purposes of paying rates or not. I'd be looking at bare minimum £200 per marshal for the weekend, so maybe £2000 for those who showed up. That's where I'd want the money to have gone, and it seems that's exactly where they skimped and saved. Of course, it's entirely possible that their marshal team (such as it was) were doing it at mates-rates or were mugged off into volunteered their time. Anyone know? Liability insurance, phew, no idea. I mean, if they had any. At least they wouldn't need weather cancellation cover. Running events this size is a thankless, grinding task, and I can see why Sharon there got a bit tetchy. There's a Facebook thread about bookings where she says "email me, DO NOT reply to this post", and of course, it's full of replies. But it's not like she's doing this as a charity gig, right? This is money for what are ostensibly professional services, not the kitty for some local club. Imagine you'd paid £100 for weekend entry to some amusement park that was overrun with ferals jumping the queues and spitting in your chips, and that this was a known problem that went on weekend after weekend. Do you think the site could shrug it off by saying "Blame the other customers, nothing to do with us."

To add to ‘sniper tape’, there are two to three types: 1) Camouflage patterned sticky tape This varies in quality and can be a good finish or a sticky mess Any level of quality will leave sticky residue so is on a practical basis a ‘permanent’ solution unless you want to spend time cleaning up gunky residue when / if it gets removed 2) Cohesive bandage which only sticks to itself and also gives good grip This may be marketed as a sniper / hunter wrap tape in a few camouflage patterns (which often gets price markups) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pinsheng-Reusable-Camouflage-Self-Adhesive-Non-Woven/dp/B09GY4WTKK/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2RPUYXJQX147Q&keywords=camo+foam+tape&qid=1664883118&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIzLjIzIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=camoform%2Caps%2C81&sr=8-3 or as vetinary / horse tape which can be had at a reasonable price if you can find a good ‘country stores’ or a friendly vet. This is available in very wide ranges of bright & dull colours, pretty patterns and camouflages …. And both via the internet https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cohesive-elastic-bandages-SUPERIOR-camouflage/dp/B07CHXBCJQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=37VILCLHU6KMC&keywords=equestrian+vet+wrap+green+camouflage&qid=1664883360&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjAxIiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=equestrian+vet+wrap+green+camouflage%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-4 3) British Army sniper tape in ‘ally’ green which can leave nasty residue. This can be sourced from some army surplus shops (especially near barracks etc) at varying price levels and at uplifted prices on eBay etc when accompanied by the description ‘SAS sniper tape’ https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fabric-Webbing-Scapa-Genuine-British/dp/B00HBTYC7A But …. More importantly, keep your parents on board They may dislike guns, but are showing a good point of view in supporting you with playing the hobby. Attitude is the winner - if you are responsible, don’t act like a gun nut, do act like a hobbiest who plays consensual activities of shooting friends in a safe environment then you can enjoy this for years / decades The colour of an IF/RIF has no bearing on its capability If someone on a game day thinks you’re a silly kid with a bright toy BB gun then let them think that and shoot them all day

Another way of reading that is "We are unable to provide the service that you paid for, please claim a refund."

I'd be fascinated to know how the financials work out. We're looking at about £50K gross income, but I have no idea what site rental would be like, or liability insurance (if they had any - who exactly would you sue in the event of an avoidable injury?), or whether they were even paying marshals. What I do know is that 1 marshal per 50 players is farcically inadequate, just from a bare safety perspective, let alone gameplay. Cease-fire / man-down shouts, hearing and finding injured players in a complex structure, performing the most cursory sweeps in the event of a fire evacuation, you're not getting that done with 1 in 50. Given that we know, we absolutely know, that hot-shooting and cheating does occur at every event, and given their documented response was "Not our problem", I can see a fair case for claiming breach of contract. You don't have to be injured to claim: loss of enjoyment is actionable. Not that I would, but then I wouldn't go to this scale of event because I know exactly what to expect. What I would say is that the only way it will actually change is when it costs them more to do it wrong than to do it right.

Not anytime soon. Although at least VFC has a history of making some replicas available in both GBBR and AEG form. So there may be hope in the future. On the other hand we have King Arms claiming they will re-release their FAL line. Although the last time I checked they were claiming to do be doing so in the coming years, which lead me to stop checking up on their offerings.

IANAL but the spirit of the Highways Act is to physically protect highways and highway users. And this includes any kind of distraction within 50 ft. Someone seen (or, in case of real firearms, heard) plinking could cause a distraction, regardless of distance, but only within 50 ft you can be nicked for the Highways Act. The solution, solely for the purpose of the Highways Act, if you have to plink within the 50 ft, is not to be seen (or heard) as to not cause any potential distraction to a driver. If it is "completely out of sight" like you say then it should be fine.

How much does a rainbow weigh? Not a lot, they’re pretty light

People really must vote with their wallets on these events, I've never heard of one going remotely well. Maybe some years ago I missed one, but I'm pretty sure for the past few years they've been both really terrible and expensive? I only had that once myself (the mythical blue fox 2) and it made me extremely wary I'd have to say. There's zero chance I'll put my faith in any organiser without a track record of both decent length and solid quality. Granted my feasible opportunities to attend multi-day events are probably a lot rarer than some so I'm extremely cautious, but even if the time and effort were immaterial (which they really aren't), when you're paying something like £80-150 just for the entry let alone fuel and supplies, the experience simply can't be an unpleasant mess.

@nappa Invicta Battlefield is pretty close CQB to Dartford

Reforger Airsoft is about an hour from you, if you ever fancy some non CQB gameplay. Been a couple of times, good site. Farther afield there's Red Alert, about an hour and 45. Bloody great place.

Joking aside, this is one of the best written game reports I've seen in this thread. Good show, TPH.

Yup. There's no way that a mid-game / weekend rule change is going to be propagated clearly to 400+ players. I'd be astonished if it even made it to all the marshals.

Player: "Hey, a lot of people aren't following the rules." Organiser: "STFU noob read rules." Player: "But.. I did, that's why I'm..." Organiser: "REED RULZE PLZ" Galaxy brain handling right there. Oh, and "cheat calling is mandatory" is the plot twist that nobody saw coming.

There were too many players for the site and it would've been way better with half the players (again. Like the Citadel) and marshalling could've been done better as CQB is a lot harder to marshall than woodland and they definitely didn't have enough experience on the marshall team nor the numbers to deal with the absolute asshats who were taking the piss when it came to hit-taking. However, what isn't being shared in this is that the most experienced marshall who was directing the games took a really nasty tumble, dislocated his knee and had to be rushed to hospital on the first day. He was back on crutches on day 2, which went a lot smoother. The Facebook drama went way, way too far in my opinion. Sure, there were some people offering constructive criticism, but there were others just dogpiling on the staff for player-led problems and as soon as that started happening, you lost me; the non-apology post by the staff wasn't great, but the response to it was a lot worse. At the end of the day, blaming marshalls for players not taking their hits is a bit weak; if players took their hits, marshalls don't get tied up in resolving the (countless) times non-hit taking was observed and can focus on keeping the game dynamic and interesting. If they had more numbers I think they could've done more about it (and that is where I think the blame there falls with them as you're always going to get at least some godmode meal team nine oper8rs at large events and need to plan for it), but I'll direct my annoyance more at the players who were taking the piss; probably about an 80:20 split of my ire for players and staff respectively. Seriously, the non-hit taking was absolutely awful at this event and was probably my biggest gripe; I personally saw a lot of it because I was silly(?) enough to bring a magnified optic to a CQB event and 5x zoom was helpful in spotting the BBs hitting their targets. Again, 2nd day was waaaaaaaaay better for hit-taking, though there were still some instances of clear piss-taking. Outside of that my only other gripe was their rules being a bit silly but I've already elaborated on that multiple times. I wanted to bring one of my (many) 1J bolt action builds, but they weren't allowed for reasons that still elude me. I went in with no expectations apart from the fact that I would make of the event what I would and I would find ways to enjoy myself. Honestly, I thoroughly enjoyed my weekend and had many good laughs. Did my sniper-y thing and crept into positions where I was either concealed in shadow (like a true edgyboi) or to where the target I was presenting the enemy was so tiny that it was never getting hit at those distances and just used the MWS for what it's great at. Next time (doubt there will be one at that venue though) I'll bring a bolt action if I'm allowed (😡) or at least my HPA m21 even if it's a CQB venue like that. Also, it was a fantastic workout because I used my heavy setup with the weighted plates in my plate carrier as well as a LOT of gas magazines; probably about 20kg of gear I was lugging around all weekend and I managed it! Didn't lighten my load or give up on the idea, and I was a lot more active on day 2, running around the place to get to positions or across an area being fought over. Met lots of great guys there and really enjoyed the social aspect too. Also, we found a pile of abandoned clothing in our day 2 CP and decided that we would have a bit of fun. We rocked up to the morning brief on day 2 like this: Anyway, I'm tired after a lovely 6 hour trip back down to the south coast and I'm going to go collapse into a pile and not wake until work on Tuesday!

WE G3 GBBR 😁 Comes with a tactical dildo too 🤣

Finally got this puppy back from having a touch of maintenance.

Reddit sez: "Phoenix Airsoft and NoMansLand mainly" MusTard adds them even when it's quite clear that his BBs are hooking off into next postcode. He's creating pure fictional drama. Indeed, my main problem is that anyone who get into airsoft after watching his garbage is likely to be someone who finds those sort of antics appealing. "Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism." Sound familiar?

Kicking Mustang did WHAT!?

That's his mum's back garden🤣

Two players walking back to the safezone see a player laying on the ground , one says to the other “now that’s a hardcore sniper , hasn’t moved ALL game ! but don’t think he’s getting many long range kills with a spring shotgun ?” 💀⚰️

I actually think they should double the minimum age. No under 25's, at least a three day induction course, six months of banks statements and a permission slip signed by your wife/partner. If you're not married/living with your partner, you can't play. Save the space for those of us who have a legitimate reason to leave the house at 6am on a weekend.