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just get them to come along with ya.... saves you trying to explain it: Airsoft uhm well I suppose it is like pretend soldiers... "Oh you mean like re-inactments ???" ergh not quite but some do that, this is more like uhm ergh COD you might say "Oh you get perks and bonus stuff ???" No - it is one shot or hit and you are dead and you call yourself out "Out like in cricket or tennis ???" Oh ffs - you should come one day it would be really good "yeah do you think so - Im not so sure" No really, coz then I can get to shoot you myself for being so fvcking thick !!!!

Sprayed the Katana at NAE, wanted to Afgan and back to the barrel & stock but I forgot white spirit and Southern Comfort didn't work.

Did a quick mock up, I do like it a lot, though you'll probably have to leave out the fore grip, or use a short magazine as I think the fore grip will get in the way.

You too? At The Stan a couple of years ago I was leaning around a bush, on uneven ground so one leg was outstretched and the other scrunched up, which stretched my kecks tight across my arse. Someone had managed to creep pretty close without me noticing... an actual double tap to the anus. Literally the bum hole. After day 2 I stopped eating. At the time it got nothing more than a grunt from me. I mean it hurt, but it was more of a surprise than pain. Maybe it was just because i was well adrenalised... The game was a "Blackhawk Down" defend the chopper game (although the chopper was left to our imagination) - a small area with limited cover and the opposition given free reign across the courtyard to attack from approx 120 degrees of approach, with 2 snipers on the roof of the building opposite at whom we could not return fire (because the site is surrounded by active businesses and houses so you can't shoot up as BB's could leave the site) - so it was pretty hectic! Anyway, by the time I got home it was sore. After the 1st crap it was very sore. Later that day i bought some haemorrhoid (and try spelling that without recourse to google) cream. After the 2nd crap I decided i didn't want to risk a 3rd until it had healed a bit :'( Yeah, it's funny. Even I find it funny now. By day 2 after the hit it was really not funny. As it happens I often wear a custom bum-rig which is a waterproof pad hanging from elastic straps from my belt, to put something i can sit down on no matter the terrain, because i have a medical condition which causes a lot of pain in my extremeties - sometimes i just have to sit to get off my feet. Didn't think i'd need it in a CQB venue. When I 1st started wearing that a few people took the piss. A few people asked about it and although they didn't say anything I could tell they thought i was mental. I used to say "you'll all be wearing them soon". If you look at pics of Russian SF these days... yeah, they have them. Russian Army Sitting Mat SPOSN

I shall just leave this here ..... Oh and this ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/22730494@N06/sets/72157645868820809/

I'm sure Ominous Slayer would appreciate it, but I don't think he's been active on here for a veery long time

In all honesty you probably did void the warranty by taking it apart, but nothing excuses an ignorant rude attitude. Name and shame to be frank!

Right, I know I always play 'that guy' on these threads, but just to clear a couple of things up for people... I know you're probably talking in 'practical' terms here, just just for clarity it is not illegal to own a RIF, as you point out, but it's not illegal to buy one either, so what you need a defence for, legally speaking, is selling, manufacturing or importing. 'Regular skirmisher' is technically not a defence either; I could 'skirmish regularly' on my mate's land but that wouldn't qualify me for a defence. The wording of the actual 'airsoft defence' does not include 'regular' or 'skimish' in it at all. Which leads me onto: This is true in relation to the original VCRA 2006, but a defence to be used by airsofters was added in a later related document ('VCRA 2006 Regulations 2007') due to lobbying from groups like the UKARA (and since most airsoft cannot be said to be 're-enacting'). The wording of the defence that was 'made for airsofters' is that you can sell, manufacture or import a RIF if you are providing it for: "the acting out of military or law enforcement scenarios for the purposes of recreation" and that this will take place at a site with third party liability insurance. That's how vague it is. Good stuff.

Love the guns here. I am returning to the hobby so good to see how healthy airsoft still is

I've heard everything from: "that's a bit sad isn't it?" all the way up to "oh, so it's like paintball?"

Marui EBBr number 1, the outdoors-y type.

Trousers?

One from saturday

I love the look of PBS-4 suppressors. The design seems to shout, "We're Russian: we don't care what you think of it; you'll be smirking on the other side of your face when it's pointed at you!" And I have an aluminium one which is approx 45mm wide across the 'bottle', but with an internal diameter of about 26mm, and 'neck' OD of approx 28mm / ID 8mm - so it weighs 540g, which is bloody heavy to have on the end of even a short barrel like an AKS-74U, which is what the real steel was made for. Now Phatima, my Krinkov, is ICS and full steel, so you'd think that the weight would balance ok... but it doesn't, not with the stock extended let alone folded. It makes carrying her for long periods annoying due to being front-heavy - the stock, although steel, is after all just a couple of U section rods and a connecting piece. I had been planning a build based on a G&P aluminium receiver and a real 'steel' Izhmash manufactured wooden '74 stock which, had it still proved too light, I could have stuffed with a heavy iron bar in the space for the cleaning tool cylinder*. But the bloke whom I had asked to drill the stock out for me so that the receiver lug would fit into it (whom i had considered, if not a friend exactly, someone with whom I was on good matey terms and he was also my downstairs neighbour ffs) has disappeared with both the receiver and stock. I mean, what a cunt! He's not even into airsoft and it's not like i was asking him to do it for free either - there was a drink in it for him. V^^VGrrrrrrrrrrrrr! *I have 4 of these bars which came inside a crappy bright orange springer Beretta CX4 Storm which I bought in the hope of being able to turn it into an AEG for a Battlestar Galactica loadout - yeah, well internally it is so shit that the only way to do it would be to basically smother everything in place with a hot glue gun, so that has gone firmly on the back burner until I come up with a better idea or can be arsed to create some kind of mould I can grease up so the hot glue doesn't stick so I can then fit AEG innards into the spaces left when it hardens. In the meantime These lumps of iron have proved far more useful than i would have imagined, had i known they were inside when i bought the poxy thing. But, as is my wont, I digress... But then I picked up some of an AK-47 Beta Spetsnaz front end dirt cheap. It's plastic but surprisingly decent quality, so possibly TM, and I have a few bits spare like the end caps for handguards, rear sights, screws, bolts, body pins... so a plan began to form in my mind - a very short AK with light forward parts and heavier rear end (and by all means go there gentlemen, I may be too jaded to make the effort for such little reward, but I'm as likely to snigger at Beavis & Butt Head -esque comments as the next overgrown boy). The initial problem is that there is no steel receiver within my budget (possibly no longer being manufactured) which will fit with the TM barrel base assembly, only VFC / LCT clones. With those I can find available being much of a muchness in terms of no side rail mount, I'm fairly well decided on buying another G&P receiver - the last one I had was good and robust and then there is the few tines of extra metal sticking out the back to attach the stock, compared to the King Arms, Classic Army and TM Clones plus it has a more substantial stock-lug than the G&G, which is also magnesium, so probably lighter than I'm after. So the plan thus far will look like this, but without the trades... I also really dislike the look of Crane stocks and their ilk, but I do want an extendible stock on this gun, plus for the role I have in mind, FIBUA, a folding stock would also be a bonus (more on the 'logic' of the gun later). I do like the look of those LR300 stocks and since they are made from quite chunky metal, that would fit the plan. Like this... The other week I ordered an Ak to M4 Stock Adapter which will fit the G&P style AK Receiver, so this type of stock will work and at 750g it should do the trick of balancing the gun even folded, but when i went looking for one I came across another couple which I think could look great too, so now I can't decide... ...I wasn't sure this^^ Tanker style one would be heavy enough to balance the suppressor, but according to airsoft-club they weigh 1/2 a Kilo. But there's also this which I've seen called both HM and CM (any help with the name wba): ...which weighs 550g and the way it folds up like that is tdb for packing into a kitbag! I'll also need a vertical foregrip which needs to be light. Really it ought to combine a torch mount, because there isn't enough rail space for a separate piece of kit, but there are very few i like the look of. There's no way i'm spending $60+ on one either when i can get a better torch for <$15 I love the look of these: ...but i've only seen them @wgc and black is oos. Still, I'm going to paint it all anyway so i could get a tan one. Can you imagine that in front of an AK drum mag? Tomski gun! Not sure that I will use a drum mag, but I definitely don't want it as tall as Phatima with an RPK mag, perhaps not as tall as a '47 banana-mag, but if i was going to put up with the rattle from those 220rnd short AK hicaps, i may as well put a 2500rnd drum on it and save myself the blasted winding! If I did go for the last of these three stocks, maybe a foregrip like this would suit the style better: It'll also need a red dot, because the front and rear irons are far too close together. I have two different rear sight replacement mounts, one for a Docter MRDS and the other which puts a 3" rail above where the sights go, so i could use my C-more clone as i have a Kobra clone on order for Morena, my AK-74. I dunno though - for balance it may turn out better to have the optic above the top cover and I do have a spare side mount which i could attempt to fit, but i have to say i'm not convinced that without workshop tools i could fit it well enough to use and i also have my doubts about the width of the nut vs the width of the gearbox. I'm not sure i could bring myself to get one of those top cover mounted rails though. I dunno, i expect that if there is a centre of gravity problem I could sort it out by gaffer taping an iron rod to whichever stock i choose - i've done that on Sabine to offset her aluminium RAS vs plastic receiver and it looks fine and feels way better for her being heavier per se. Anyway people, opinions please and any suggestions for stuff i haven't mentioned would be greatly appreciated.

No, I've made the decision to break with Russian design for the stock specifically so that I can have an extendible one - I have long arms and stock length is something that bugs me about a lot of guns. The only one I have which fits me comfortably without obvious modification is on Jetta my G36KV - Svetlana the SVD has 40mm of oak attached in place of her butt plate - Sabine my CM.028U has a random piece of rubber which i think fell off a car taped to her her foldible stock (but it could do with being thicker) and Morena my CM.048 has one of those Element rubber butt pads, which again could do with being thicker. I've got 3 RPK-74 midcaps and 1 hicap, but I don't want that long look, or the restriction it creates on aiming while prone. The idea for this build is 'solid but sleek'... I don't actually have any RPK mag pouches mind. I'm going to buy at least 1 double modern RPK pouch soon to carry a spare tube mag for a PP-19 Bizon as a sniper back up, so I spose I should go ahead and buy at least 1 more (the PP-19 is coming with 4 mags though so in theory i need 3 double RPK mag pouches) because I intend to find out what is stopping Phatima AKS-74U from feeding BB's properly and begin using her as a primary again. TBH, if there was a way to do it without building the whole gun from scratch out of sheet steel and aluminium blocks, with a CAD set up and CNC mill, I'd love to have a horizontal drum mag, like that yank submachinegun with the ridiculous ROF, so all modern looking, not like a Lewis Gun. Don't worry about hijacking the thread, Straff - your gun is not too dissimilar so it makes sense to share a thread on their builds. As i said above, my main reason for this thread is to get opinions and the more options we consider between the 2 guns, the better afaiac. Eventually I'll be choosing internals as well, so it'll be a resource for anyone who wants to build funky AK's. Are you planning any internal upgrades also? I do quite like that top cover, although I would put a short rail on it, possibly riveted on to reduce the size of the bit inside, to leave more battery space, because 11.1V LiPo's don't go under AK top covers without a bit of persuasion as is - no need to make it smaller with nuts and bolts. I've only recently started using red dot sights properly and i'm hooked - it is a better way of target acquisition than what i tend to do which is watch the trajectory of the BB over the irons and correct for the next shot. Monty, thanks for doing that, mate Is there any way you could do a similar mock up using the LR300 stock and a drum mag?

As youve established you'll need to pay for a new slide why not drop Firesupport a line? They do carry Marui parts and might be able to get one for you, or even have one in the shop. Worth a try at any rate mate.

Join as an air engineer and spend your career avoiding the wet stuff and if you do end up on it - flight decks make excellent volleyball courts!

as an ex-WE, all I can say to that is... 99.999% rounds/cleaning, 0.0001% missiles, torpedos, bombs. And I was a back-afty too!

I have a success, I have routed the battery wires to the front of the rifle All I have to do now is make a battery box, shorten the wires and solder on a deans connector

I honestly don't even know why .23g BBs exist! people buy .20 because they're cheap, I get that, people buy .25 because they're reasonably priced and are more accurate than .20... but .23?! what niche does it fill?

Defiantly the one for you!!!! A friend of mine new to airsoft purchased this and he still uses it now and then...and that was over a year ago

Not an explorer but same shape, ESP LTD EX250

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CYMA-32rd-Magazine-for-CM121-Desert-Eagle-AEP-C-63-3-PCS-CM-MG-18-C63-3PCS-/321379846585?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item4ad3bb49b9 3 x desert eagle mags

IMI holsters are fantastic.

Woohoo! The 1st one I bought got lost in the polish post somewhere in Warsaw... ...but the seller not only sent me another but added my choice of small present! Soviet tank driver's gen 1+ night vision helmet with all the trimmings! I'm so excited! I hardly dare touch it just in case it doesn't work, because I'm so chuffed to have it that i'd be almost suicidal if it turns out to be fucked - the ebay seller deals in ex military electrical and electronic gear though and they advertise them as tested working. I've got a battery charging now... fingers, toes & bollocks crossed! Edit to add: the pressie? A German Army hard carry case, perfect for pistols: I'm on a roll me just bought: Russian Army PM Belt Holster Olive SPOSN - £15.02 Russian Army Spetsnaz AK Sling SPOSN "Trehtochechnik" Olive SSO - £13.21 +£12 P&P ~ chaka98 fleabay NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's not working - emailing for tech support now :'(

Best answer to that is "So I can run around in the woods shooting at my mates without worrying about going to prison on murder charges"

The LR300 stock is fairly heavy and comfortable. I have a A&K LR300 long with a suppressor, which has the battery in the foregrip yet its not particularly front heavy. Without a side rail it should sit nicely on your gun I reckon. Mag wise I guess use one appropriate to needs, if its your primary go for the ginormous RPK, or as sniper back up then the short spets one would be less cumbersome? That railed top cover looks good, have to say I've not seen one anywhere but equally haven't been searching extensively, but yeah it would open up sighting options. The Cyma Galil one I have has a flat mounting for the rear sight which is bolted in place and gives a nice long sight base for iron sights, though I guess a short rail could be fitted if preferred. I also found the rail on that foregrip just a tad short even for stubby grip attachments so it could be a struggle. . . . . !

I generally tend to go down the 'it's like paintball with more realistic guns' line. People understand that.

That's not standardised, my local site operators run a woodland site and a CQB site with the same fps limits; 368fps for full auto and sidearms, 500fps for both DMRs and bolt actions. Everywhere else I've played has been 350 for CQB, never actually encountered a 1j limit anywhere before. I've also heard from some people that there are sites that allow bolt actions up to 550fps. But the basic point I was making is that fps restrictions aren't standardised.

Mate, i have been so fucked up recently that i haven't spent much. I have the wonga to proceed and, having discovered some really sexy parts within my financial reach, proceed i shall! Right, I've made a decision - the skeleton foregrip it is. Just as well because having bought the dark earth one because black was oos, DE is now oos also. Phew! I absolutely hate it when I think i probably will buy something and by the time i get round to it they run out of stock V^^VGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I was intending to buy a really cool sling from chaka98 on fleabay for the PP-19 Bizon i'm buying, but that has gone oos :'(

They are RPK mags. IRL they are also used with AKS-74Us. They are not as common in airsoft retailers as 47 and 74 mags, but they're not hard to find.

You'll never get to being a proper geardo with that kind of attitude!

Yeah, frontowiec are good - their prices are decent and they don't make it back by charging stupid money for shipping. More stuff for me: G&P Metal Body, Steel Top Cover & Saw Style Grip f/ AK - $53.00 King Arms Enlarged Lever AK Trigger Guard - $2.00 King Arms 150% Recoil Spring & Hammer Spring for WA Infinity - $2.00 (looks handy) Milspec Monkey Bunny Girl - $2.00 Milspec Monkey Gothy Girl Pirate - $2.00 +$8-odd Shipping from UNCompany They are having a sale on some decent kit so well worth having a look, even though their order process isn't as straightforward as just click 'Buy' - you have to wait for their confirmation email. I bought those springs just because they look like they might be useful eventually and for 2 dollars, may as well... C.M. Aluminium Long Fore Grip (DE) - $21.00 LCT Bakelite Effect Pistol Grip f/ AK-74 - $15.00 (look at this ) -$3.00 Discount for using PayPal + Shipping = Total $43.70

Woah dude this budle is cheaper than the gun itself on other sites. Thanks dude!

Well I fail to see how destiny stands out and Ubisoft have a history of producing massively misleading "gameplay" trailers so....

If anybody is really interested I could knock something together regarding suggested first aid equipment to carry?

This. Every damn game. I swear on one day every swinging dick and his dog was aiming for the squishy bit of belly between my chest rig and my battle belt. Came home looking like a slab of corned beef

STOP THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW. Youre turning me on and I cant handle it

You can put the Russian tourniquet on the skeleton stock, that would look authentic. That could even hide some weights if that's needed. My problem with the AK beta that it has never been a real gun. If you use a plastic body, only you will know it's plastic. I've seen many ppl taking a cyma AK in hand, examining it, and they couldn't decide if it was metal or plastic. If you even paint the gun then even better. I only had a pbs-1 once. There is a "metal" and there is an aluminum version of it. The "metal" is extremely heavy, while the alu is really light. Maybe try getting a suppressor made from some lighter material, I don't know if you have that choice with the pbs-4.

if the flights weren't £600 (cheapest I could find) I'd be all over a trip to the states to shoot people in the face.

I imagine if a bb got a solid connection with an actual bollock it'd hurt a fair bit but I've only ever had a bit of sack contact which isn't that bad. With a couple of layers it's nothing to worry about. You have to be very unlucky or in something of a dubious position to get a proper smacker on a knacker. Maybe I'm over thinking it a little...

The guy on the right looks very out of place

Or this one

When you are wearing that Loadout do you turn up in this car

Went to first skirmish Sunday, and people were wearing all sorts. Genuinely made little to no difference. Everyone could be seen in the sunshine in the main. Those I didn't spot were well hidden and few/far between. Hidden because of where they were rather than what they were wearing. From my POV it's clothes I'm happy to scuff up etc, and look the part a little, rather than hide up with...

It's always so cute when couples wear his'n'hers matching outfits.

Put a bit of electrical tape on the rail?

You are facing the same dilemma that most do when starting out. Fact is that airsoft is an expensive hobby. You could save a chunk by getting a cheaper gun though.

You don't have to hold them that way though. Unless you're actually Chris Costa. Then it's the law.