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Don't get hung up on the "full metal" thing. The polymer bodied combat machines (not the plastic ones, the nylon reinforced polymer ones) are as strong as if not stronger than metal. Plus if cost is the issue bear in mind that the guts of the t4-18 is going to be basically the same as the combat machine. The cost difference between the guns is more than the cost of a tight bore barrel. Don't try and scrimp on the protective gear though.

Just after this photo was taken... ...one of the opposition thought he'd sneaked around to flank us, but had actually rocked up about 10m to the right of the POV of the photographer, or right down the throat of Svetlana my SVD. Being so close I couldn't just drill him so, being ever so careful not to draw attention to myself by moving quickly, I picked up my Skorpion with drum mag fitted which I had laid at my side, also under the sniper veil which had evidently defeated his target recognition skills. Things to know about this JG Vz61 is that I have upgraded it with a PDI 6.01mm TBB, a Gate Pico MOSFET, where possible heavier duty wiring, and a 20C 800mAh LiPo - and I had only recently completed the electrical upgrades so I was quietly chuffed with my little self for turning what had been an ok-at-best sniper backup into something which would do as a primary weapon in a pinch, so as I took aim at our unfortunate protagonist I had great expectations. After chrono I had filled the drum mag as far as sensible, wound it to full tension, and stuffed a piece of foam into the space above the BB's to stop them rattling, which it did brilliantly. Perfect as a sniper backup. I mean, shit, someone had crawled right past me in bright sunlight and not seen me under my homemade veil even though he was being cautious, and I had the tools for the job, all home customised: I was really pretty pleased with myself. I pulled the trigger... "Skrr-du-du-du-du-du!" ...but no fucking BB's. The bloke hadn't noticed though - I banged the drum mag and fired again - same result. He still didn't notice though. Dropped the mag, shook it, tested that it was still fully wound, reinserted and fired again - fucking nooooooooooooooooo! By this time a few of my team who were dead and lurking with a marshal at the back of the game zone were laughing and I had lost all patience - from their POV they could see the rear half of me not under the veil so my intended victim still not seeing me must have seemed even funnier - i finally rolled over, dumped the veil and changed to a stick mag - got him and another bloke who had crept up a bit further away, but then got rinsed by a few enemy coming from the opposite side of the game zone, from the direction the photo was taken. Truth be told, if i had been more patient I could have slunk back a bit, changed to the stick mag under the veil and then regained my uber position under the tree (where it's shadow confused my own shadow making me even more invisible) and gone back to Svetlana for the crew who got me, because they'd never have seen me. But I was very new to camouflage actually working, so I didn't have enough confidence in it. I spose I had just assumed that after 3 bursts of dry fire the bloke must have been moments from spotting me. The pic below is taken from the POV of just off screen to the right of the 1st, ie the direction the victim was in, but closer and also standing. What it doesn't show very well is that the ground sloped away so that my lower half wasn't visible from the height and distance of the victim, or to those who actually shot me once i dumped the veil.

The real rifle is called the FN herstal SPR A5M. Its military designation is the M40A5. Im guessing the VSR is in there because its VSR compatiable.

I have a CYMA AK-74 Flash mag which was about £11 posted - must be shite, right? As with so much that CYMA make, not at all. TBH the plastic is a little more flexible than I'm used to in my mags, but it works fine and the one time I've dropped it, it bounced. You really need to take a step back though - I know that it's all shiny shiny, but the most important thing to get is eyepro. After that boots. Then 1/2 face mask. You may find that getting eyepro which suits you is not as simple as picking a product and buying it. There are a number of issues and what fits and works for 1 person may fail miserably for another. Worse than that though is the set that sorta works, but just doesn't quite ever feel like it's not there, or never quite tightens up and fits your face shape well enough that it doesn't move, or maybe it is working just fine but the gap at the edge near your temples is a bit too wide to be completely confident that you wont become the star of a horrible story... see, if something is bollocks, it's obvious, you just ditch it, but just how good can eyepro be? How much minor scale bollocks should you put up with? Very much the same can be said about boots, just without the same degree of dire should they fail... These are the discussions that will actually help you most right now.

WE L85A2 (with 4 mags and a Susat) TM AUG A1 (one of the early ones - its not that far being as old as me :/ ) 10 Midcaps and 2 Lipos to go with it. 1 Set of DPM webbing-the variety used mostly in NI. Now I need to get some more stuff to get my L85 game legal

My UKSF 'armoury' Custom 10" and 16" Diemaco SFW's. 10" is just a shell for now, slowly rebuilding the internals, and the 16" is running a dropped in cyma gearbox. TM P226 w/ surefire X200

Held it and it feels nothing like the jbbg guns I've held. Very light weight thou! as for the name.. think it might be that Swedish shops have not come as far as English ones yet. It's not rear that the airsoft brand isn't mentioned on the homepages. combine that with macks post^^

Good choice, nice platform that. You'll be glad of that later down the line, I spent years buying all sort of kit that I just ended up selling on or chucking away before I took the plunge on gear like Tac Tailor. Lot of wasted time and money! NB - In case anyone thinks I'm being a snob, everyone is quite welcome to buy whatever it is they like, but I know for a fact there's a lot of guys out there who went through that exact same cycle as I did.

Please stop punting out hearsay and opinions as facts. The best mags are whatever feeds reliably in your own gun and fit your budget. Pmags don't work for everyone. MAG 190 round metal m4 magazines are very good, but not necessarily the same goes for everything they do. I've had very good results from dytac invader mags, others have had nothing but grief from them. Also, ASG flash mags are just rebranded Lonex ones.

copy paste any airsofter on ya fone there ya go coppa - that's me there in the pic yeah but he has got a mask on.... Well yeah course I have - it is feckin dangerous ya know not to wear eye protection

Tactical Tailor Mini MAV Tactical Tailor 3RD Triple Mag Pouch. £67 altogether The broken zip, Sweaty Pit, Poor fit of an excuse of hire kit (Note the rhymes) Is no longer, Mwahaha! --- Pictures to be posted of the unboxing, Is it wierd that I'm excited to open my first airsoft delivery? Ofcourse I've had amazon parcels with a mask inside etc but it's lovely to have my first 'Airsoft' package.

Will do, just ordered FMA Maritime Dummy Sapi's

I run around with a £125 g&g raider, I have zero problems with it and I'm more than holding my own with it. An expensive gun won't make you a better player.

The law doesn't actually say how long you have to have been an airsofter. The issue is proving it, so a receipt from a site would do, but the best thing is a photo on your fb wall, because in the vanishingly unlikely event that you may be called upon to prove it, just getting your phone out and showing the penis your interlocutor would end the discussion there and then. Bear in mind that the police are not enforcing this law - ACPO stated it is unenforcible, but that is not to say that you should flout the law, just that you need not worry about being prosecuted.

Lol! That reminds me of a time we were playing a game where we had hostages whom the opposition had to recapture. The rules were that the hostages were immune to being hit until they had been grabbed by their team mates. So this one bloke, Charlie, had a reputation for hiding stuff down his pants etc, so i was keeping a close eye on him. At one point he was trying to sidle over towards the edge of the camp and kept ignoring people telling him to get back into the middle - so i told him he had 2 seconds to comply or else... and then rinsed him when he decided to call my bluff! I mean, so what if he couldn't be 'killed', 365FPS full auto from 15m hurts... He took it pretty well - we usually play on the same side whenever we're at a game together. Maybe he doesn't actually like me, maybe he just doesn't want to be on the opposite team again lol!

Ask yourself this: What is your favourite war film, war based computer game or whatever? This simple question is quite often the basis of peoples 1st loadout. This tends to be expensive, so your best bet might be to get some army surplus gear, dpm is cheap and works well. http://www.britishmilitarysurplus.co.uk/shop/special-offers/soldier-95-deal-grade-1-1124095.html

My friend and I were shooting and moving towards a guy hiding behind a big holly bush, while my friend was suppressing, I sneaked round the side to kill the guy trying to push up on our position. As I fired on him, I realised that I had run out of ammo although by this time I was spotted by him and we had a brief exchange of looks at each other before I belted it back to my friend, calling out, trying to get his attention. Whilst running back, I was trying to get the glock out of my holster, but thanks to sods law, it was stuck so I was sort of jumping and skipping in a hope that my glock would free up. In the end, I got shot by my friend who mistook me for the enemy and then the lunch whistle blew before my friend could finish him off. Typical.

Just gonna roll out and say there's no such thing as a M416, it's a HK416. M416 was invented by Dice for their Battlefield games because they couldn't get licensing from H&K to call it a HK416. Please stop.

Quick rundown of my UKSF kit. Multicam cap, Bolle tracker 2 eye pro, Sisu mouthguard, Mtp ubacs, Crye UKSF trousers, Mechanix gloves, Berghaus boots. Paraclete SOHPC w/ various pouches. Molle battle belt w/ various pouches. On a normal game day I usually carry. 6 E/Pmags, 5 P226 mags, Ammo bag, Speedloader, Water, Sweets

copy/paste from elsewhere I Preordered this gun from AirsoftGI so I have had it in my possession for quite some time. I bought it for just the stock and was just looking to drop my already built vsr10 system into it. So from my observations the only things that are not vsr10 compatible are the hopup mounting block, some mag catches(Not the mag release button the actual catch compared to the newer model 2013 and beyond jg bar 10s), and the trigger guard. The rest LOOKS to be compatible with standard parts but I have not tried to mix and match parts as I tossed the internals. You can however with heavy modification use vsr10 trigger guards, hopup mounting blocks and mag catches depending on your skill level. Quality is about JG level overall. The stock itself is excellent being some sort of fiber composite using what I believe to be abs plastic (Similar to the jg cream colored piston) however the saddle cheek rest needs some work in order to hold its position. The externals seem to be decent aluminum and the casting of these parts was much better then that of jgs along with fit and finish. Internally aside from the hopup chamber it should be gutted due to material choices and tolerances. Aluminum cylinder/cylinder head, standard plastic piston, and spring guide with a m120ish 7mm style spring, typical crappy 45 degree trigger system, barrel was uncoated aluminum, bucking is glued in the chamber. However an important note is that depending on how far you are looking to gut it you can face compatibility issues. I was dropping in all pdi externals and primarily pdi internals and the mounting holes do not line up requiring the area that holds the rear tang to be elongated. This required the rear mounting screw hole to be elongated and extensive work to get the trigger guard screw to work properly. I also had to deal with the stock being off spec not allowing the barrel and receiver to drop down in place which some sanding of the channel fixed that. Making an angel custom trigger guard work with this stock required a long process with a dremel. So its completely doable to drop a full pdi rifle into the stock but it will require a lot of time and effort. Simply using it as a base gun and replacing the internals should be more straight forward. Some extra notes are it comes in a semi matte color, slings mounts freely swivel, has standard vsr10 bull barrel.

The game doesn't start until 1030hrs so it had warmed up by then so GBBRs ran fine

Totally understand, as a Newb I am finding out about brands as I go along.... I have spent about 120 on kit which I now plan to upgrade and sell on/donate... I dont mind this too much though as I am still learning and havent took the biggest plunge and bought a gun I am not happy with or full tactical kit etc and am enjoying learning and am getting there!

Yup.... Borrowed a combat machine and found it nice to use. Prefer slightly heavier weapons but could easily get on with one. Will buy one ASAP and start the pimpage!!!

Yeah, I seem to remember we've chewed this bone before, eh? Quite apart from the silliness, there's the practical considerations and people came up with all sorts of mad ideas for FET's and diodes and shite connecting the torch to the actual electrical system of the gun. I think we concluded that pressure pads were the way forward... Unsurprisingly lol!

The majority of UK shops will still require a UKARA number to sell you a RIF, although some will take other proofs these days, like BASA, or a site membership and of course Zero One will sell you a RIF at NAE since being there is proof enough. If you want to import a gun you will need a UKARA number for UK Customs - that is the only defence they recognise. But for everyday stuff, yeah a photo will do. If you read my noob guide there's a link in the chat to a YT tutorial on how to use Fairy Power Spray to take paint off plastic and it works just as well for getting it off metal.

Airsoft International did an article recommending it I think. I didn't really read it but the article was 'Can you snipe for £150?'

AGM most likely.

Linking a light to your trigger is probably the worst idea ever. What if you want to shoot someone without alerting the whole world to where you are?

type in MAG 190 round midcaps they also do 130 round mid caps. I could only find box sets for the 190 round mid caps however there are loads of choice of where to buy 130 round mid caps https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mag+130+round+mid+caps&rlz=1C1SVED_enGB533GB533&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=shop&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=PlkDVInyLKnK0QX6_YHQAQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ#q=mag+130+round+mid+caps&tbm=shop EDIT: btw pmags are the best and they are plastic. Whoever said metal is better than plastic is telling a porkie pie!

Don't forget you'll need a die wrench!

Also suggesting dialing back on the gun. Combat machines are very nice rifles. The Nylon bodies are very often stronger than the zinc and aluminum crap alloys used in guns. Guts are more or less identical,so performance will be close to the top techs. Using the money saved on some good boots. They make a world of difference man. Ones that are often recommended are German Kampfstiefel 2000 boots, indestructible known to last a very long time. Offer great ankle support. The Mk7s can often be found in grade 1 condition around the 40 pound mark. British Pro boots are great too. They're goretex lined so won't soak. I've waded through marshes and played in bucketing rain and my feet have always been bone dry. Also offer excellent ankle support. Only thin I'd say is that the soles are not the strongest things ever. German Bergstiefel boots are a bit more expensive but Have very knobby soles which offer great grip. Then you also have your high end Haix,Lowa and Meindl boots.(These 3 also OEM Kampfstiefel and bergstiefel boots,their own name stuff is a bit more expensive) Pricey but the quality is fantastic.

Legend! Thanks

You are facing the same dilemma that most do when starting out. Fact is that airsoft is an expensive hobby. You could save a chunk by getting a cheaper gun though.

Not being funny but if you spent say £150 if on a FA bare bones budget or If you went complete nutz on a 1,000 budget you still will be wondering.... To be absolutely honest get the hell out there and start skirmishing a few times you could buy all this and with a few skirmishes think you may wanna sniper you could even decide it ain't for you - either hate it, not like being hit, sprain you ankle - loads of things but decide maybe it isn't what you thought it was And human nature being what it is you will never be happy & content with what you got - the grass is green or his gun looks better than yours......................... The crap me and I'm sure many many many others went out with when we started but that didn't mean we had a real brilliant time either...... Even me with B500A1 getting owned most of time but still stopped some other guy gallop with his £350+ gun using a £50 one - how pi$$ed does he feel (not much really coz $hit happens like this all the time) get out there n get shooting - hire gun £150 gun £350 gun - whatever yes if you are gonna buy something try n buy something decent etc..... but maybe try not to run before you have learned to walk so to speak

i knew that i just thought 1 skirmish would not be enough evidence

Most idiotic thing: I was behind cover, when a guy fresh from respawn thought he was cool and shot his M4 single handed as he walked. Of course he shot me in the back and he didn't even notice. The funniest thing was a few years ago when a guy played too much counter strike before his first skirmish and actually jumped around a corner so it would be harder to hit him. He got a single shot to the center of the chest and I laughed so hard, I had to stop. I first met a guy who later became very good friend on this game: It was a building and he was shooting his pistol from a doorway, but he didn't notice me. I sneaked around the room all tactical, and finally got to the doorway. I waited until he stopped shooting past me, and I kneeled and turned in to surprise him. Unfortunately he was about to shoot again and the pistol's barrel was about 5 cm away from my forehead. He was surprised, and he shot. I basically was executed kneeling.

Ended up in a one on one pistol duel in a fairly open bit of woodland, I was leaning back on a slope with small bushes behind and either side and as we were both firing pistols through vegetation it was a little stalemated. A marshall and several dead players were watching from about 20m away. As it had been raining earlier I was wearing my DPM water proof jacket. Next thing I hear a pyro being lit so lie back flat, grenade comes through the air and lands behind my head, no choice but to move rapidly away, grenade fuse still sounds just as loud though.. . . . BANG! It had landed in the hood of my jacket so full credit to Will for that one, proper fluke! Spectators were wetting themselves, I couldn't hear for about ten minutes!

You can get a Nextorch WL10 illuminator for £39. I've heard they're great. NASH Airsoft did a review. There's also the Element SureFire replicas which I think are supposed to be pretty good. If I remember correctly they are only £25-£30 from Asia (but over here they will charge £50/£60 for em) The WL10 has a momentary on switch / paddle which is great or you can get a pressure pad for the Element SF flashlights. Try to mount flashlights as far up the gun as possible so it doesn't illuminate your handguard / barrel too much, use it in sort of short bursts, aim at walls / floor (can't remember exactly why but I think you will find it if you type flashlight tips into YouTube or something) Finally if you're right handed, mount the torch on the right. This is cos people are more likely to aim for the light they see and if it was on the left they'e be shooting at you whereas on the right they could be just missing you if you see what I mean.

just don't be one of them guys that runs around with it on, because a blinding flashlight becomes an aiming marker, just flash it for room entry but in small doses

Prommy Purple hop rubber Element H nub ZCI 6.02 363mm barrel (Thanks to Pete @ AK2M4)

I thought if you left them in the cold the next day the metal would be quite weak and would crack really easily, remember someone axing it happened to them, note at nae however it is something I have been thinking about as I am wanting to get a gbbr and also go to the next NaeBtw, I hope your medication works out and the doctors do step up to the plate and find what you need to take soon

Make love to them.

Wow, we getting all bauhaus n shit... I'll have to do another that doesn't fit and call it cubist!

As soon as you go airsofting you have the defence - you dont need a UKARA registration. You can legally remove the two tone paint. Fairy Power Spray takes it off.

I don't think there's a particular load out for a specific weapon. Load outs are more for where your playing or personal preference. If I am playing indoor CQB I'll wear my black load out. Woodland I'll wear my Atacs FG or MTP, maybe my DPM. The choice is yours dude. Some people just wear jeans and a hoodie and crack on I with their day.

So you got gun obviously. what about dpm? and boots? need those two. Which one are you getting btw? then your going to want eye protection, don't got too cheap. I'm going to buy from hero shark (would like to replace my goggles) and spend about £40-50 quid in total, all worth it I reckon. hen your going to want .25 bbs. Also get some more mags, maybe another hicap, I run two hi caps at the moment, however I might start investing in mid caps considering I just bought a vest off mateyguv. You can carry the other mag in you pocket. All you need really P.S I have the carbine and I bought a black stock and front handguard, much cheaper than say with the raider because the rails are however much and a fiddle to put on. SO when I go to skirmish I will take the bright coloured items off and when I finish I will replace with the two tone again... it is allowed btw just check with your site however

I love GBBR's, but the mags kill it for me. If you have ever shot an L85, or even just a powerful air rifle you will understand that kick is just awesome, and puts a smile on your face. I like AEGS because they are reliable, however I am seriously thinking about a GBBR

Sorry what? You looked at this entire thread and thought you were unlucky?

So you're complaining that the discount they gave you, that they didn't have to offer at all... Wasn't big enough? Some people really never are happy.

They make out out like they are so feckin experienced yet chubby don't skirmish I'm lead to think... JambWow is so brilliant at reviews - ffs the amount of times he fills mags and puts more on floor than in magazine. The pure bollox that comes out of his gob is beyond words: This gun is high quality full metal - well except that bit, and maybe that bit, perhaps that bit too not sure about the other bit too - look theonly thing metal is spring and ergh not sure about rest If I had a quid for each FANTASTIC he said - jeez I'd be rich They lie, they bul$hit you, they don't get back to you, their return refund policy is dire, most of the stuff is crap and when you slowly realise that then I refer back to: they lie/bull$hit etc...... If you know what you are looking for there a FEW things on there that you can buy but most is $hit we on here have learnt the hard way - they are the worst imho OnlyBBGuns - slightly slightly better but still not ultra high quality but perhaps best of 3 BB muppets BBGuns4Less - bit better than JustBBGuns JustBBGuns - uhm think I said a fair bit and can't really say what I truely think As with all of theme 3 BB named companies and some others - be very careful and shop/research a bit before you part with cash - often they sell low end stuff that is crap and often won't last or work well you will get your ar$e badly kicked if using most of their stuff at a proper skirmish site If buying a M4 - get £100 to £130 G&G - seriously - wasted a couple of hundred on crap to so-so other makes so I do know a thing or two about cheaper crappy guns - learn from mine & others mistakes for example not saying get it but: http://www.onlybbguns.co.uk/hg-104-m92f-beretta-hfc-hg-104-m92-gas-pistol.html?filter_name=gas%20pistol#.U_gp7KNOgzw or http://www.onlybbguns.co.uk/gg-106-hfc-gg-106-mk8-compact-gas-pistol.html?filter_name=gas%20pistol#.U_gq1KNOgzw use RC10 code for 10% discount and free shipping on all stuff I bought a co2 one for 30 - 10% = £27 delivered - 400+ fps too powerful to use at sites but not bad in black/blue and goes some for garden fun just saying those 2 gas & my co2 wre 27 with discount free shipping - works until valve/mag goes crap on ya not bad for a decent looking pistol