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Hi Kirsty I'm sure people here can help you out. If anything, you run the risk of getting too much information. If you can provide a bit more info about your requirements then anyone answering can better tailor their advice. How old is your son? Is he hoping to play regular games at a proper skirmish site, or will this be a gun for back garden play? If he's going to use it in the back garden you might want to consider something in 2 tone colours to make sure the neighbours aren't going to phone the police at the sight of a young lad with a realistic looking black rifle. when you say you had a bad experience with CYMA, can I ask if you can remember what gun it was? CYMA definitely have budget models that are of a lower quality than their more expensive stuff, but in the price range you mention, you should be able to get a reasonable starter gun that is sturdy/powerful enough to take onto a skirmish site if that's his plan. One thing to look out for is really cheap guns that have plastic gear boxes and gears. From any manufacturer, these guns won't stand up to any lasting use and the gear boxes are often not just plastic copies of the metal ones, so you can't upgrade them at a later point. when you are looking at possible purchases, most guns with metal internals will mention it on the web site or the box somewhere. Another thing to be aware of, if this is going to be more for back garden fun. An automatic electric gun (AEG) built for skirmishing on a purpose built site can seriously damage things like eyes or teeth, especially at back garden distances. I'd consider protective eye wear a must for him and anyone nearby if you end up with something of that level. I'm also fairly certain it would be an offence under UK firearms law if projectiles fired within your garden were to pass outside of your property. If he's old enough, and you have a nearby site, have you considered getting him a days skirmishing using hire equipment instead? £150 is a lot of gun for occasional backyard use, and if he goes to a proper site and enjoys it enough to want to go back then there will likely be plenty of people there who can advise on what to buy to get him started. I hope you found this helpful and I didn't sound at all patronising. As you say you don't know anything about airsoft I didn't want to blind you with jargon or overly complex explanation. if you have any further questions, ask away. I'm sure other people will also be happy to put their advice forward. Regards, lain

UKSF kit I've been working on, since the photo I've gotten a different belt, Helmet and holster now so when I go out on the 10th I'll probably get some new snaps

I can't even claim this is about the loadout, I just really like this photo 🤣

And that's how you create a duty of care and a liability where none previously existed. Bicycle lid? Seems to be quite a few of them in their pictures, also folk not wearing lids, including marshals. "Safe" zone, or ballistic bifocals? It never fails to amaze me that so many airsoft sites seem determined to document that their rules are more what you'd call guidelines.

Looks alright, although I won't play there as there isn't a brain bucket on the market that will fit my massive noggin (helmets mandatory for 'elf and safety). Irony is - all the FB pictures have peeps wearing various cheapo repo lids, but I would wager none of them are in any way impact safety rated. Otherwise - it looks similar to the Bunker in Portsmouth.

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Hi all. Im looking for some advice on buying a BB gun for my son for xmas. Looking for something semi/automatic for him to mess about with. We have bought him 'cheap and cheerful' BB guns before but lucky if they last a few days before the plastics break. No looking to spend hundreds (budget about £150) so looking for any advice/opinions or even recommendations on what to go for. Im wary of CYMA (had before), but see a lot of Bulldog and double eagle guns also?? Apologies in advance - I literally know nothing about airsoft, but dont want to chuck £150 way on something rubbish. I appreciate its still going to be at the lower end of quality, but hopeful we can still get something for him to have a bit of fun with. Many thanks in advance.

Awesome. Might have to look out for these see what’s floating around Great episode. Ectoplasm everywhere lol

Peters and Lee? The parrot is looking very nervous!😵‍💫

Not a problem Kirsty. I don't know how you feel about such things, but if he's a sensible 14 year old and wants to shoot at targets then have you considered getting him an proper airgun and a half-way decent pellet catching target? Obviously, that would completely rule out shooting at 'live targets' (even brothers) but a decent starter airgun would be far more accurate for target shooting than any airsoft. If you are in the middle of nowhere and you've got somewhere on your property with a safe backstop to prevent any stray shots leaving your garden then that might be a far more rewarding option than a cheap airsoft. Target shooting is another of my hobbies. Shooting a perfect bullseye is always a rewarding feeling, and it's great for encouraging focus, responsability, concentration, and hand-eye coordination. https://www.pellpax.co.uk/airguns/air-rifles/spring-powered-air-rifles/proshot-fox-cub-combo-177/54 Something like the above link, plus a pellet catcher, a pack of targets and a tin of 500 pellets should be around your £150 budget One thing I think most people on this forum would back me up on, Airsoft guns are like British sports cars. They look nice, and can be a lot of fun, but they spend as much time in bits on the kitchen table as they do 'on the road', and thats the good ones. Cheap nasty ones aren't fit for purpose and will likely fall apart as soon as you take them out of the garage. A good little starter air rifle thats looked after and properly cleaned will keep doing its thing for years. That said, if shooting at brothers is a must then a pair of CYMA electric pistols and a couple of sets of eye pro is probably your best options for airsoft based garden fun. Personally, I'd recommend the CM.127 as a solid little pistol that should just run for years and is repairable if anything does happen to it. a couple of extra batteries and a bottle of 3000 BB's should keep them going for a while.

Hi Kirsty, sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. CYMA is actually a decent brand and their metal gearboxed guns are noted for being robust (although the outer plastic on their M4s feels pretty nasty): it's a shame that they also make those £40 market-stall specials with plastic internals that really are disposable toys. I'll keep it simple, PatrolBase is a reputable retailer and anything they sell will work. All the sites with "BB" in the name sell a bunch of tat (as well as some decent stuff, but you have to know what you're after). Stock levels are quite low at the moment, so there's not a huge amount of choice. One issue is that most electric rifles don't come with a battery or charger, and even the very cheapest charger plus a nimh battery will run you £25. The cheap CYMAs do tend to come with a battery and a very basic charger with a 2 prong EU style pin, although it's never guaranteed: they're treated as a sort of bonus free gift by retailers. Any of these will do: https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-two-tone-assault-rifles?*inst=y Annoyingly, you can't filter by whether they have an included battery, you'll have to check the description under "Included Items", and even then you'll find contradictions. The Lancer Tactical M933 says that it does, but I'm doubtful. If you do need to add a battery and charger, then these will work for £25. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/asg-intelligent-auto-stop-nicd-nimh-battery-charger https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/vp-racing-9-6v-1600-crane-stock-battery (this will fit any of the M4s, but not the G36s or AKs) I certainly wouldn't recommend them, but you'd be looking at £45+ for the very cheapest smart lipo charger and battery that we would recommend, which puts you over budget. Whatever you get, the small pack of BBs typically included in the box should go straight in the bin. Really, don't shoot them. You'll want BBs from here: https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft-0-20g-6mm-bbs e.g. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/evolution-airsoft-0-20g-target-6mm-bb-1kg-bag I know there's a huge range to choose from and this can get very confusing, very fast. Please get back to us if you have more questions, but we won't be able to answer the battery and charger question with absolute certainly, that would be one for the retailer. They used to be, the prices have gone shooting up recently. You may still get lucky finding one in-budget, but again, you'll need to add a battery and charger for a minimum of £25. To keep under a £150 budget, you're really only looking at CYMA, Lancer Tactical, Specna Arms or Jing Gong at the moment.

With respect to the whole power aspect, legally airsoft guns have to be below around 350 feet per second (ish) if they can fire in auto. Any gun you buy online or in store will have to comply with this, BUT if you feel that this is too powerful for your 14 year old then you will need to ask to have it downgraded before you take delivery. Thing is that airsoft inherently comes with an amount of risk and indeed pain if you get shot. If you're looking for something more akin to the £40 Cyma he had before then you'll potentially be out of luck. That said, there's no recoil and he can always get protection/padding if it's a problem.

Make sure big bro has eye pro too. 👍

Hi Kirsty, G&G Combat Machine M4 rifles are superb entry level guns for about your price range, as are the CYMA guns, especially their AK style ones; the latter are massively better than the £40 low power gun that he had before.

Hi Iain Thanks so much for replying. It literally is just for a bit of garden fun, so definitely dont want anything too powerful. My son is 14. He has all the protective gear from before so that side of it is covered. We live in the middle of nowhere, so no neighbours or passers by to worry about 😳, he's a sensible kid in that respect anyhow. ...its more target practice at targets (and probably his older brother!) that he'd be doing. Perhaps we are better looking at something cheaper as that might fall betting into the lower powered sections....the one we got him a few years ago was literally £40 and (CYMA) and literally fell to bits on boxing day, so was a big disappointment. From what I can see looking at slightly 'better' models for example G&G Airsoft M4 Fire Hawk Standard AEG and Nuprol Delta : Pioneer Breacher AEG Rifle - Two Tone Blue, they are just going to be too powerful and maybe too 'advanced' for what he is looking for. As I say, I have no clue about makes etc, I just really want to get hime something what is not a total waste of money thats going to break like last time. But if there is something very entry level, not too powerful but robust enough to last more that a week, he'll be happy! I really appreciate anyone taking the time to help me out here - I know you would all much rather be talking about/to serious players...just a lost mum trying to do the right thing!

Update: Took it apart again earlier, discovered that in my laziness at disassembly, I had merely loosened the six screws at the hop end of the external barrel, to allow me to free the internal & hop unit What I hadn’t realised is there is a tab on the side of the hop unit that slots inside the external barrel. So the hop unit was sitting maybe 1cm further back than it should have been. Therefore , it couldn’t feed as the nozzle was protruding into the hop assembly too far and stopping beebs from feeding Doesn’t explain how the fcuk I managed to get 3/4 shots through it before it stopped feeding previously 🤷🏻‍♂️ Anyway, now shooting .2’s at mid 280’s fps (was previously just below 300 with standard worn rubber) Will fps climb a touch as the rubber beds in? 🤞 this was read with minimum hop applied

on the current dick theme, mine was in the Guinness Book of World Records ... until the librarian told me to leave.

Sounds like a .... Nail.. of a time

Can people plz stop posting want to buys in the sales threads. There is a section for it called "Guns wanted".

Just wait for schools to be over

they started off a few years ago going to a few cons with booths flogging RIFs. Cosplayer generally shouldn't be sold RIFs half of them got no sense what so ever and i am really surprised some one hasn't been arrested/shot yet.

'Say what you like, crucifixion gets you out into the open air.'

The Bayeux Tapestry is not historically accurate. The whole story has been embroidered!

In the US that's called a tactical abortion tool.

Aye, But you ain’t the next owner 😂

Could it be part 33 you are missing?

Sadly, rebuild kits don't seem to be much of a thing in the UK. And I wouldn't throw much money at a Raven: it's Nuprol's budget brand, which is saying something. If we're talking about the main recoil spring, you can get "upgraded" ones (for airsoft definitions of that word) which might work, e.g. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/cowcow-rs1-recoil-spring-tm-hi-capa-1911-gbb . If that fits but turns out to be too springy, then you could lop off a coil, stretch then flatten it. A handy site to bookmark for springs and things is... well... https://springsandthings.me.uk/ Sorry, no idea about the end cap.

New family photo

A spooky ghost?

That’s one way to explain the stains… 😉 This was the cleaner reference, I was going to use something else.

Definatley …… and you never know even with failed crowd funding, (except for the ‘pay me to develop my idea’ as opposed to ‘pay up front to get production going’) the videos show that at least prototypes were made and they could ultimately find their way out to the world and eventually sold on For a not actually bouncing ‘bouncing Betty’ there is/was the RAP4 series, and a couple of other brands. These did make production, still not a lot as a niche product and over a decade ago, but they could be about. Spares could be harder to find, but the one with just a round seal is probably findable as a rubber grommet I can’t find footage of the ones we used here: A real benefit for use is they can be buried rather than just flicking leaves around, however for that event we used our ones plus a stack on loan from RAP4. All good, except when it came to digging them all up. We were short, and it was loan ones that were missing (potentialy sticky fingers as ours had markings and the loan ones were clean and fresh anonymous from the box) or sunk into the mud We had a few follow up sessions with metal detectors, and also over a few months the site were finding them. I think we ended up with all of them or a couple missing All original placements were photographed and Geotagged, but we made the mistake of sending other people to reset and didn’t entirely remember where they were placed —- it’s buried on the path near a bush across from a tree It was a 12gram powered one that we used, pop in a 12 gram, some powder and a leprechauns condom. Step on it and a pin punctured the 12 gram, the tiny rubber condom built up some pressure before bursting a spout of powder The videos I can find seem to be using refillable cartridge valves like 40mm shells Traditional ‘plate’ styled mines: These are similar to the ones we used, but actually has a better safety. A pin locks the pressure piece so it can’t be triggered when setting up (I mentioned the potential lack of safe disabling on the bouncing Betty, but our original RAP4s could be unscrewed and rendered safe even without a safety pin) But a safety pin when setting up would be useful - on our first use one of the guys asked ‘how many turns should I do?’ Just as he made a twist and blew powder into my chest …. ‘One leds turn than that’

viper concealment

You should post a wanted add in the classifieds buddy! I may just have some RS Eotechs going P.S Boys I'm back

Hop rubber, nub and spring advice worked well... Lozart thanks for connecting me with Pete @ak2m4! Aj All set for Gunman Tuddenham this Sunday...

why do I have an image of uncle albert come to mind during the war.............