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I hold it like a proper gun. Why wouldn't you?

We spend thousands dressing up like soldiers and the minute we put some camo cream on our face we look like pretentious twats? A big 'Well Done' to those that think that.

I have never once seen someone take a hit and call 'last stand'. you're clearly playing with the wrong people.

either that or they're aiming by looking down the side of their barrel and walking their BBs onto the target, not nearly as effective as just zeroing your sights and aiming properly.

It's not a case of what I want to hear. lol... I'm just relaying my experience. What I actually want to hear is "your order was shipped and will be with you tomorrow, and here's a generous discount to say sorry about being a tool." I'm glad that others may be alright... But to be fair, the mark of a company in my mind isn't how they operate when everything is fine, it's how they deal with their own failings... Which in this case, they have royally boned. I've felt the need to take it through PayPal now to try and get a response. Such a useless company.

Well, I've copyrighted it. So COD can stop stealing content and claiming it as original. I will make them publicly announce that they used someone elses design and they must pay me for every person that equips it. (DICE can have it for free)

New COD DLC ?

I hold my gun how you should normally hold it.

YOU might spend thousands dressing up like a soldier but not everyone does.

For any future articles I write I'll be using this guide:

This cant come soon enough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fewc0ddX0wE

Avalon(VFC) Bravo Company gat all nice n' lightweight. I've had guns with far shorter barrels and handguards weigh far more than this thing does now, super fast and easy to point.

The only thing I'm interested in is the new star wars battlefront. I may cry if it gets cancelled.

I remember that i is a valid way to hold a long gun in CQB situations if you have to go there with it. I can't remember if it was the AK or the M16 (with full stock), but I definitely saw it taught like that to real soldiers. Searching for photos...

I've been playing for quite a while all over the country... it's a lot less common than most people seem to think.

Same here. I think this is a myth.

...people actually attempt that? Jesus...

If I was properly doing a milsim where I was SADF, especially Recce I would black face and for a woodland weekender milsim I might but for normal games I wouldn't bother

Either they are small kids so that they need the gun closer to them or idiotic people who are pretending to fire an RPG like in COD or something. And the amount of kids who believe in a "last stand" when they are shot...

Given that it annoys me when people hold a Sten gun by the magazine... Shoot them all!!

. Now thats most likely down to the vest not the lack of MOLLE. As is the case with many rigs, even MOLLE, you need one that suits you and if you don't no amount of MOLLE will help that I have also tended to note that people will usually put the pouches on a MOLLE rig basically in the same place as non-MOLLE rigs but with little change.. for instance I be the location of mag pouches on a low profile chest rig will most likely be the same as they are on my M83 chest rig. Pouches on my MOLLE belt rig are basically in the same places as they would be on PLCE As said thats the point of this thread One point I feel hasn't be pointed out yet is that fact non MOLLE rigs do tend to be lighter and have a lower profile as you don't have the layer of material used the attach items. However, for plate carriers I would probably suggest MOLLE, especially if they're being issued as you don't need to provide different carriers for different roles

Fair enough. only done it once myself (got the gun twotone for a silly price), then had to carefully scrape the twotone off, as it was metal and using chemicals would have removed the paint under it. looks like it's been fairly well used, but I no what so ever intention to sell that particular gun, so I dont mind

No we can't that's the point of the tread, both options are available and both have advantages and disadvantages, you look at your requirements and chose your gear to reflect it, for some a Mini Mav for 3 mags is plenty, for others a 1961 rig is required. Just because one is different doesn't make it any less valid. Molle has the advantage of being modular and can easily and quickly be changed to your personal requirements, the SA vest for example has the advantage of being able to carry a large amount of gear conveniently, comfortably and in the right place when you need it. It really does boil down to your personal choice.

The people that I've seen put the stock on their shoulder are generally unfit, so instead of holding the rifle, they'll rest the stock on their shoulder to "ease the pain"

i really cant understand the people that have it any other way.... im slightly confused about how many people i see doing odd stuff like this.

Just decided to camo my gum. Tactical leopard block anyone? i reckon it could be the British Army's new camo.

I was just stating in general My own skirmishable 'loadout' currently sits at £140 including 4 mags and camouflage. I built the gun from spares and scavenged as much as possible. Look out for my post in the near future!

try heavier ammo first. don't change anything else, just put 0.25g BBs in it and notice the difference immediately. 0.20g ammo is frankly rubbish and only useful for chrono and extreme CQB where accuracy past 20' doesn't matter.

LOL - that BANG Glock think I may get one of those bad boys I mean if a sniper had that as secondary and called bang I would deffo take the hit Ya gotta take a hit from that - unless ya female coz they just don't have sense of humour

They're nearer to £160 new with all the pouches. But fair play on the "other mans sweaty parts" thing. Of course - you could just wash it...

Done properly it looks brilliant. Done wrong and it looks like you got dunked in a pot of dulux "camo special" I don't use it since I wear full face protection, but I can see why others would want to (even if you look like a tw*t doing so).

Only if you sit in a corner hugging your knees, muttering "the horror...the hooooorrrroorrrrrrr" under your breath.

I've seen varying opinions on this. Some people say it makes you an official tit. Others only go as far as to say it's pointless. I say if it ups your game, screw everyone else. Everyone else sucks. Try it and see what happens! You can get it for a few quid on ebay so gotta be worth a go?

You won't be sorry getting buying WAS kit. Excellent gear.

Not necessarily If you've found a bit of kit that holds up like something £50 or so more expensive, kudos to you. You've beaten the people who shelled out the extra cash for a product which does the same job as something cheaper, but has a label

Condor are average, they're unlikely to fall apart from airsoft (although stories have surfaced form the US of that happening) but for the price you can get better.. they're probably better than Bulle but not as good as WAS Flyye are probably one of the best clone gear makes out there.. I've had a fair bit and hold up incredibly well. As a testament I was talking to a guy from the SANDF who has just gotten back from the Congo and he said that Flyye is by far the most popular brand for private purchase, even being used by the Recces (SA SF) Out of those two I would easily go with Flyye!

When buying a rebranded Umarex gun, a fair amount of the price is for the H&K trademark. I think OP would be better off buying a G&G CM M4 as It's trusted by many members of the forum- plus they are made of a really sturdy nylon fibre plastic, much better than any Chinese monkey metal

Good to meet you yesterday Lambster, that ARU loadout looks good Quick hot debrief on the site: As always well run, the safezone is one of the best I have been to, nice big hall with tables and pleanty of space to sort your kit out. The site itself is good a real mix of large and small rooms from wards to small offices, the team have done a great job with the longer corridors placing cover to break them up. The games were well run and marshalling was spot on from what I saw, especially considering this was the opening game. Its a big (really big) site so regen walks can be like playing woodland not that this is an issue at all, and the games we played were all pretty good and ran for a good length of time. I also like that the first game was run so that you found your way around the site. The only problems we had on the day were: 1- the thunderflashes didnt ignite, it wasnt just me everyone had the issue, it was an issue with the strikers, so they could be lit with spare strikers. The guys were really good about this and I believe that Felix is sending the whole batch back so this shouldnt be an issue for any other games. 2- the site can become a bit linear, to get around choke points it can be a very long way around, again not a real problem and we quickly adapted our style to compensate. Imagine playing airsoft at your local hospital - all of it and you will get the feel, oh and I think I only got lost twice lol. The site is certainly well worth a visit and we had a great day, we will certainly be back later this year.

Meth is one hell of a drug......

Jesus Christ, are you going to crayon over the entire forum? Do you see me or anyone else posting pictures of their weekly shop? No. Because it's not relevant, neither is a neon genesis action figure.

I can fill a 1961 pretty easily. I don't use high caps so 4-6 midcaps in 2-3 of the front pouches, 2 smokes in the other. Pistol in the right side radio pocket, radio in the left. 2 pea grenades in the grenade pockets, extra pea grenades in the left side utility/battery pouch, snacks and spare ammo in the right side utility. 2 pistol mags up front and a lens cleaning cloth inside one of the small pockets on the front of the magazine pouches. No belt-kit required, bottle of water in a trouser pocket or a 1.5l bladder inside the lining of the rig if it's going to be a hot day. If I'll be out for longer than 3-4 hours I'll attach a pack to the back of it with a 3l bladder and various other bits and bobs to make life more comfortable :-) That'll generally do me for a 3-4 hour game, top stuff up if needed at lunchtime and out for the same again in the afternoon. As for the chimp wearing a chest rig with nothing on it... Some people are just special! I understand entirely that a couple of high caps and a bottle of water will 'do', but that's just not how I roll. I don't fill the pouches for the sake of filling them, everything I carry in a pouch has a use and if I find I'm not using it it gets ditched!

to get a thread on that specific gun you have to buy a replacement outer barrel. they are available if you search around. you cant put a surpressor on it without im afraid, my daughter has that exact VFC HK UMP

This is something I have been debating with myself and the forum, ultimately it boiled down to how much do I need to carry? And in all seriousness how anyone can fill a 1961 webbing for a days normal skirmish is beyond me. I found that 2 hi caps and a midcap is more than enough fire power and that can easily fit in combat / pcs shirt pockets. Obviously they are brilliant if you are loading out with the full 8 low caps for mil sim or for 24+ hour games where you carry your full water and scram supplies, but for the majority of weekend "have a bit of fun" skirishers all they need to carry are a few mags, some water, and a mars bar. Lugging a full webbing is ridiculous for that sort of situation, where a cheep Chinese molle vest does the job very well. I have a SA vest and have had to remove the large side pouches because they will never get used, if I could find something to fill them they get so much in the way I cant shoot, comfortably or get at my pistol, but if I had a three day trek with minimal combat it would be ideal. Tis evolution of design, idealism vs practicality, its the same reason the big boys are not still using flintlocks. I witnessed something the other day that really dented my faith in airsoft and the type of people it attracts, all his gear on a belt kit, (which by itself is fine) but then wearing a condor chest rig with no molle pouches attached and the belt not attached, just wearing it for the sake of wearing it .....

Sounds awesome, and the F&O Midlands guys aren't half as bad as Jamie's crew. Shame it's so far away =[

G&G combat machines are very good for the money.

Would have but my cars in the garage at the minute and I hate using public transport to get to skirmishes. Sitting on a bus in camo usually gets you dodgy looks haha Why I'm sad the embassy closed - my mate lived round the corner so I could park at his and walk there.

I dont see why people have an issue with that at all. It's their company, if you disagree, find another forum or make your own forum for that sake. But I do much prefer the people on AFUK.

I think JBBG has some competition on their Pro-line stuff

Rammstein-Halleluja Gonna be followed by Speiluhr.