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Having been spoiled by playing at The Mall I find all "proper" CQB sites to be far too small. And full of speedsofters.8 points
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What do you look for in a good CQB site?
TheFull9 and 3 others reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Are they though? In my experience speedsofters are a minority, I'd even say that their numbers are greater at woodland sites. Also many sites have banned speedsoft as a playing style and are still going strong. I do agree that not all speedsofters are arseholes, it just seems that arseholes are attracted to the speedsoft playing style.4 points -
501st Airsoft, Tunbridge Wells
mrfoxhound and 3 others reacted to Tackle for a topic
To be fair to everyone here, if its a safety issue, shite gameplay, or even a massive amount of nepotism, all of which are common occurrences, then surely it's in the public interest to know, any one of us could blow the green fees, as well as a considerable amount on fuel & much valued time travelling to a site just to be thoroughly disappointed, & then times that by maybe 30+ players who make the same mistake ?. Unless it's something really horrific, not even gonna mention the possibilities ?, then most info is a fair game. Also it should be considered that sites aren't always aware of failings unless players speak up, they can't fix what they don't know about ?. IMHO 🤔4 points -
What do you look for in a good CQB site?
Galvatron and 3 others reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Multiple access routes. Games turning a stalemate because nobody can move forward and there's no way of flanking or taking alternative routes get boring fast, especially if that choke point means one person can keep an entire team pinned in one spot4 points -
Ban all speedsofters, got it! 😂4 points
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What do you look for in a good CQB site?
Tommikka and 2 others reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
One thing I've noticed more cqb sites doing is restricting the number of pyros people can carry. As much as I like tossing bangs around I like this rule as it stops games turning into a game of who can afford the most pyros3 points -
I'm putting £10 on "Licking Mustard seleected as site ambassador and representative."3 points
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1) Change: A series of rooms/corridors quickly becomes boring once people have planned out known routes and angles It is very dependant on the construction, but ideally you would have elements to open and block off routes - if a ‘real’ building then open/close doorways avoid actually locking them for safety - but have a rule such as a closed door cannot be opened (unless ‘breaching’ is part of the game) eg tape over and the door becomes a wall If a zone is constructed with board and doorways/corridors are fairly consistent in size then extra boards could be slotted in/hung up to close a route 2) have objectives Find a thing, retrieve it or deliver it Find multiple things - parts of a device or a bomb that needs a key or code to disarm Have time trials - complete it in the quickest time Have simulated missions - eg don’t play against each other but have one person set up targets (friendly and unfriendly). Then run time trials to clear unfriendlies with a penalty for eliminating a friendly A similar manner without one person knowing the target layout is multi context targets - (a basic target with shapes and colours) pick a shape / colour combination target then time trial that Layout design - we all think we know what is ‘wrong’ with any zones layout, but usually are not taking into account the game context. You would have thought that a fort would not have great big wide entrances and that towers would not have wide open backs - these are both design features to make a fort attackable in a game When designing make sure that there are defendable points that can be attacked Otherwise one good defender in a fortress turns a game into the worst day for attackers as opposed to one good defender bedded in that can be flanked and eventually defeated Both winners and losers should walk out smiling, and a well balanced site and its games should give a mix of winning / losing. Soeedsoft is a very good point CQB lends itself well to fast aggressive play, whereas tactical slowness tends to be the right thing in reality to stay alive it does not achieve anything in a reasonable time The classic cosplay tactical airsofter will stack up at a corner, and unless a group who have practiced CQB together will bottle neck themselves The speedsofter will run past them, spray a room, then respawn while the next speedsoft behind them clears the next room If that becomes a problem in your game format then the penalties for being eliminated need to be greater (one life games?) and the same goes for taking too long stacked up (time limited games)3 points
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Gun picture thread
Nick G and 2 others reacted to Sifu Steve for a topic
The RIF itself and the LED torch unit in the front grip cavity. The PEQ has the battery pack for the electroluminescent wiring. 😉 What? You don't think a gas 6-shot shotgun is an elegant solution for the minimum engagement distance? It's quicker than drawing a sidearm, has a better hit probability and sounds awesome. What's not to like? (Other than it contributes to the 6.6kg overall weight, making it somewhat front heavy 😆)3 points -
Shops and the Classifieds
Cannonfodder and 2 others reacted to Tackle for a topic
Yep I know, & while I agree with you, he's staying JUST within the forum rules. It's not even like his prices are reasonable, but no one is forced to buy from him.........suckers lol3 points -
Pyro
Tommikka and one other reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Unless you're buying in bulk I find the extra postage costs don't make it any cheaper than buying on site2 points -
Shops and the Classifieds
novioman and one other reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
I'm not sure I'd class him as a shop in the traditional sense, more like he's buying guns on the cheap to sell for a exorbitant price. As for them being new, I'll take that with a big pinch of salt.2 points -
Yep, bottlenecks can destroy a site's reputation early on, something they don't always recover from.2 points
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501st Airsoft, Tunbridge Wells
Jacob Wright and one other reacted to hunter511 for a topic
Don't sit on that fence mate..... you'll get splinters. That said I will admit to a certain curiosity as to whats inspired such a depth of feeling.2 points -
That was the plan I was thinking of for the sake of observing!1 point
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Macks airsoft dreamers of the week thread
MistakenMexican reacted to Weeble200 for a topic
I might notice when I come back though!1 point -
The 'What have you just bought' Thread
ButcherBill reacted to JinxDuh for a topic
They were holding gas originally 👀 I had to fix them when I received them though, so maybe they’ve gone the same way, new rubbers!1 point -
What do you look for in a good CQB site?
Cannonfodder reacted to Tommikka for a topic
I’m not so experienced in airsoft, just having run some airsoft games at one particular site, run mini games at a major event which in some years ran both paintball and airsoft in parallel, been involved in publicity for a society and have seen airsofters at a few sites. The bread and butter of a site is its local population, and balances between one off/occasional rentals and a regular crowd. An ‘event’ can be themed and aimed at a particular flavour - but is dependant on a customer base that wants to play that flavour. The regular crowd is likely to consist of those people who are local which means they will want to play their preferred style. On these types of days in both airsoft and paintball I have always seen a mix of the woodland, military cosplay, stitch counters, speeders, casuals etc and a local crowd may happen to tip to one or a couple of these. Among all of the above there are the elitists and those who want some fun. Quite often there are individuals who span a variety and but may have the look of only one on the day Arseholes are arseholes What will make or break a site is how the staff and regulars handle the arseholes (and whether or not they are the arseholes)1 point -
What @Cannonfoddersaid The ‘best’ place to buy is at the site you will be using it The most economical way is to bulk buy …. And bulk means bulk Pyro needs to be posted by approved options, with carriers that provide suitable options and in suitably marked packaging. The cost and availability of these keeps rising in £ and reducing in options. (Declaration of interests - I have a sponsorship relationship with Enola Gaye ) They have put up useful information on transporting, storing and general safety guides in articles on their website, eg: https://enolagaye.com/pyrotechnic-regulations-necessary-inconvenience-un-necessary-evil/ I recommend buying from the site you play at for ease of those issues and also it means that the sites get to have their share of profit, so the business doing the service of providing a site to play at get a share It also means that if there is a bad batch of pyro * then you can go straight back to the sites shop. * do read the instructions on how to ignite the specific pyro: Be gentle with friction pyro and if it’s a ring pull then clarify which way to pull1 point
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I would have suggested BulkPyroSupplies but they've recently stopped trading for 'changes in personal circumstances'. They were usually the lowest priced retailer and offered nice discounts for bulk purchases. Same with a website called 308sniper.co.uk - used to buy a lot of my pyro from there as the postage was fast and much cheaper than others then it suddenly shut down. Alternatively, you can go directly to Enola Gaye and get a nice little discount (10% or so) and free postage on orders that are over £200 if I remember rightly. You cannot buy directly from FBS - I asked pretty much a year ago and they told me to use BulkPyroSupplies. You could try approaching your local site owners. If you're a regular there, and on good terms, you could try asking them to buy them at trade prices and giving you a bit of a discount. Especially if you burn through a load of pyro (definitely not me). It's time consuming but you could just google for the type of pyro you want and see which retailers have it in stock. Be warned that not all retailers will post pyro and require in-store/person collection - I would have spend hundreds at ZeroOne during their closing down sale if they'd have posted pyro. Probably good for me that they wont1 point
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I couldn't agree more about multiple access points to reduce the likelihood of bottlenecks. I would also also suggest trying to find a balance of access points as a given layout can give the attacking team a huge tactical advantage against the defending team and vice versa. If opposing teams have 5 acess points (for argument's sake) each, the lighting, distance between points, terrain, etc, can contribute to an imbalance.1 point
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A nice feature that Invicta has at the black site is small holes cut in the base of walls/barriers. They explicitly state you can't shoot through these (A4 paper rule) but you can post a grenade through it. The result is that most rooms that are a nightmare to get into because of a small doorway are quickly neutralised when you roll a grenade through the small gap.1 point
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What do you look for in a good CQB site?
MistakenMexican reacted to Fatboy40 for a topic
The prime reason why I now rarely play at my most local site, where it's somewhat become a battle of who has the fittest people who can sprint on their team and claim the areas that cause bottlenecks I'd 100% play The Mall if it still existed as Z-Mart is great but it's too dark and scary for me (I'm a wimp).1 point -
What do you look for in a good CQB site?
JinxDuh reacted to MistakenMexican for a topic
For me, there’s core things I look for at any site (maybe not entirely applicable given I’ve read your post for a second time more thoroughly. Decent/present marshalling. Amicable and honest regular players. Other things I look for are:p Addressing of bottle necks: For example stair cases and long corridors are absolute meat grinders and not fun for anyone who doesn’t have a foothold. Lots of these problems can be solved with intermediate barriers that favour the team who’s disadvantaged. Innovative or humorous games: I've played a few sites with fun or different objective based games. For example, retrieving objectives from a helicopter or having to carry a mannequin from one point to another. You’ve got to be careful not to make it too complex as some of us listening to the brief have the attention span of a goldfish. Layout: sort of inline with the bottleneck point - sites need to have multiple access routes. Having multiple stair cases to an objective gives teams options for tactics. If it’s just one route in and out, it becomes a meat grinder. one of the best sites I’ve played at recently was the Fireplace in Milton Keynes - the site is very small. But set out as a multifaceted kill house, so in all circumstances, the site can be opened up or closed off to funnel players or free up movement.1 point -
Fair enough @Colin Allen the only question I wouldn't mind knowing, as I did fancy popping along, is whether this is a safety issue and as such I should avoid it. Happy for this to be via PM rather than on an open forum if you would prefer.1 point
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501st Airsoft, Tunbridge Wells
Jez_Armstrong reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
I will not be going there.1 point -
G36 magazine pouches and camos...
Trashpanda reacted to Sewdhull for a topic
Check out begadi, they have flektarn stuff of various types even tho they are over seas. Ive ordered from them without issue.1 point -
Gun picture thread
TheFull9 reacted to Sifu Steve for a topic
Hot off the back of my ghillie stuff, here's something completely different: The Arasaka JKE-X3 Akaoni Carbine Prototype. It's loosely based on the JKE-X2 Kenshin from Cyberpunk 2077 and was built to compliment my 'Cyber Ninja' loadout I've been using recently. Definitely not to everyone's taste, but it might float a boat or two. It features: Sound-activated electroluminescent wiring, multi-coloured LEDs in the grip, a sound+IR activated round counter, a muzzle flash tracer and few other nice touches. All-in, 6 different power sources 😆. Built on the SSE18 platform.1 point -
G36 magazine pouches and camos...
Trashpanda reacted to ButcherBill for a topic
Plenty on fleabay, just search flecktarn pouch, that's where I got mine from. FYI there are molle pouches too for G36 mags but I've only seen them in DDPM1 point -
What have you just 3d printed (for airsoft)
The_Lord_Poncho reacted to ButcherBill for a topic
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Yep all lengths in AEG. I'm just waiting on the 2nd sample to arrive, hopefully end of next week. They sent the 1st sample to me couple of weeks ago but it didn't have the internal polishing. I'll post up some video of it. Again some interesting stuff with in that you all might find interesting.1 point
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What's reasonable in the Ghillie/Leaf suit world?
Cannonfodder reacted to Lozart for a topic
I got a hood from AliExpress and did it up myself with some leaves and camo netting. Then wore it once. I still have most of the leaves somewhere if you want to go down the DIY route. For reference... This. Learn how to hide and you can do away with the ghillie altogether. Anyone who knows what to look for will spot someone in a ghillie if they're not properly hidden regardless.1 point -
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501st Airsoft, Tunbridge Wells
Jez_Armstrong reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
Information received, which it is not up to me to divulge.0 points