Russian kit yay or nay ?

[Druid799]

My take is while the conflict is raging 24/7 all over our screens it’s simply bad taste to wear Russian kit at the moment . I’ve got a fair bit of it my self but I’m just not going to wear it for the foreseeable future for this reason , I’m not going to burn it or say “I’m NEVER wearing it again in solidarity with the Ukraine !” or any of that kind of fake supportive bullshit , I’m just putting it away and when it all settles down again I’ll reassess how I feel and if I’m happy to wear it again ? I will . If anyone does carry on wearing it now I’m not going have a go at them(just don’t wear Russian military patches that would be a step too far) but equally I won’t deny they will go down in my estimation as morally I think it’s wrong but everyone has a different personal standard of what’s right or wrong so say’la’vie .

[Stratton Oakmont]

55 minutes ago, Druid799 said:

so say’la’vie

What’s it got to do with toilets?

[Cannonfodder]

On 27/02/2022 at 12:30, HuttArmouries said:

I wear russian gear as does my friend. However we both bought it specifically to put pride patches and shit on it cause fuck Russia

Have you seen this tweet from the Ukraine government? i

[SBoardley]

32 minutes ago, Cannonfodder said:

Have you seen this tweet from the Ukraine government? i

That would do it for me; I’d turn around and go home ‘cus I ain’t gay bro..

[The Waco Kid]

Anyway 90% of airsofting kit is Chinese no matter what it’s trying to look like. 😘

 

Maybe Airsoft Cardiff could host a charity dictators of the world game.

 

Brother number one and the Khmer Rouge vs President for life and the State Research Bureau. 
 

That way you can play in pyjamas or floral blouse and flares. Absolutely no possibility of causing upset…….

Edited February 28, 2022 by The Waco Kid

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

3 hours ago, The Waco Kid said:

Brother number one and the Khmer Rouge vs President for life and the State Research Bureau. 

Do you think Pol Pot is a source of comedy?

 

 

[Cannonfodder]

Posted on Facebook by Reforger. Some people really do need a good slap, preferably with a chair

[PopRocket123]

36 minutes ago, Cannonfodder said:

Posted on Facebook by Reforger. Some people really do need a good slap, preferably with a chair

Oh what the actual fuck? People did that? I'm surprised they didn't just get kicked straight off the field. His response seems pretty measured though and I'm glad they didn't go so far as to outright ban Russian kit because that's a slippery slope. Then you have the question of what Russian style kit is and isn't ok and if you draw a line people are going to want to find out exactly where it is. 

 

[Rogerborg]

2 hours ago, PopRocket123 said:

I'm surprised they didn't just get kicked straight off the field

 

Sadly, I'm not, at all. I'd hope they were, but I doubt it.  And I'd expect half of them to be back on the next game day, pretending ignorance, saying "No patch, no problem", or just not giving a toss.  I'd like to be wrong about that, but the players who aren't a problem don't need told how to behave, and the players who are don't listen or care - that's why they're a problem.  It's not the patches, it's the players.

 

Airsoft sites don't need so many rules, and they don't need so much being said.  Actually punt the dickish 5-10% off site, on the day, and all the problems are gone.

 

I say this in the full knowledge that it's far easier said than done, and it's something I've got no interest in putting into action. But that doesn't make it any less true.

[Cannonfodder]

Considering it's one of licking cumstain's haunts it wouldn't surprise me if fuck all happened

[Tommikka]

24 minutes ago, Rogerborg said:

……, it's the players.

 

Airsoft sites don't need so many rules, and they don't need so much being said.  Actually punt the dickish 5-10% off site, on the day, and all the problems are gone.

 

I say this in the full knowledge that it's far easier said than done, and it's something I've got no interest in putting into action. But that doesn't make it any less true……

Whilst majorly attempting to avoid specifics, as discussed with a site owner once ……

 

They had a booking from a particular group of stereotypes, and dreaded the level of management & marshalling needed whilst considering excuses to reject the booking without ramifications 

 

But on the day it was one of the best groups they have had - purely a group of people who wanted to enjoy a day out shooting each other along with fat wallets

Edited March 1, 2022 by Tommikka

[Rogerborg]

20 minutes ago, Tommikka said:

But on the day it was one of the best groups they have had

 

This is my point. What matters is what happens on site, on the day.

 

Both in terms of what players do, and what marshals and site owners do in immediate response.

 

I'm sticking with my view that time served, good-at-the-job door security make the best site staff.  It's much the same skillset: being friendly and welcoming while spotting potential problems, sounding them out and heading them off early, and ultimately being prepared to say "End of discussion, leave now" and mean it.

 

Back your local bouncers.

[Stratton Oakmont]

On 25/02/2022 at 12:03, EDcase said:

In the middle??????? Are you joking?

There is absolutely NO truth in anything coming out of that communist dictatorship

 

One mile wide and a millimetre deep 

Edited March 17, 2022 by Stratton Oakmont

[EDcase]

Wow, I never thought I'd encounter a Putin follower 🤮

Nevermind, onto the ignore list you go...  

[Asomodai]

On 25/02/2022 at 12:03, EDcase said:

In the middle??????? Are you joking?

There is absolutely NO truth in anything coming out of that communist dictatorship

 

Russia hasn't been considered Communist, nor has it been run by Communists since the fall of the union. It has been passed off as a weak Parliamentary Democracy but is actually controlled by an Authoritarian Conservative Capitalist Dictatorship. 

I am unsure why on earth people still think Russia is run by a Communist or Communist party. The SU was certainly Communistic Totalitarianism at it's core. 

Like many political stances and parties with "Labels" such as Conservative, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Capitalist. Their actions generally have very little to do with their label beyond lip service.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Asomodai

[Stratton Oakmont]

47 minutes ago, EDcase said:

Wow, I never thought I'd encounter a Putin follower 🤮

Nevermind, onto the ignore list you go...  

I’ll informed and also incorrect in your assumption.

The quote still applies

 

 

[EDcase]

18 minutes ago, Asomodai said:

 

Russia hasn't been considered Communist, nor has it been run by Communists since the fall of the union. It has been passed off as a weak Parliamentary Democracy by but is actually controlled by an Authoritarian Conservative Capitalist Dictatorship. 

I am unsure why on earth people still think Russia is run by a Communist. The SU was certainly Communistic Totalitarianism at it's core. 

Like many political stances and parties with "Labels" such as Conservative, Democratic, Socialist, Communist, Capitalist. Their actions generally have very little to do with their label beyond lip service.

True, the label 'Communist' has been replaced but Putin clearly wants to bring back its ideological 'glory days'.

Anyway, I don't think this is a good subject for an airsoft forum so I'll drop it.

 

Edited March 17, 2022 by EDcase

[Stratton Oakmont]

The quote is not an insult, nor was it used in that tone. it simply refers to the conversation being held, how these events are brought about and how we are manipulated to “feel” about it

[Asomodai]

16 minutes ago, EDcase said:

True, the label 'Communist' has been replaced but Putin clearly wants to bring back its ideological 'glory days'.

Anyway, I don't think this is a good subject for an airsoft forum so I'll drop it.

 

 

Putin wants to be the ultimate dictator and be as expansionist as the previous regime. But nothing about him is Communist. So again, I am not sure why you would say Russia is Communist. Were you wrong in that statement? 

 

You did bring up the politics in this Airsoft forum.

Edited March 17, 2022 by Asomodai

[Oneshotscott]

I'd rather shag a bag of nettles than to read the political tripe above (if you want to talk politics regards the Russian /Ukraine conflict, then make a thread in the "off topic" section). so back to the original topic... 

 

Russian kit yay or nay? 

I say sure. Why not. 

 

It's not like people are barred from wearing the uniform of enemy forces is it? How many taliban/German /Vietnamese dressed players have you seen? I've seen lots. 

 

It's not like the uniform someone wears means that they support the country or military behind it. 

 

Wear what you want. Have fun. 

 

Airsoft is a simple game to play unless you're a jumped up walt/nobber/General bellend. Don't spoil it. 

 

 

 

[EDcase]

2 hours ago, Asomodai said:

 

Putin wants to be the ultimate dictator and be as expansionist as the previous regime. But nothing about him is Communist. So again, I am not sure why you would say Russia is Communist. Were you wrong in that statement? 

 

You did bring up the politics in this Airsoft forum.

I think he wants to bring back the Communist regime but I'll admit the name isn't significant.  He's an asshole and we'll leave it at that 😉

 

Edited March 17, 2022 by EDcase

[YAo]

Personally, I don't particularly mind myself or others wearing Russian gear in games. How many modern armies are completely innocent? Is the US military doing good in various Middle Eastern countries? But fans of American gear are still the most numerous. The difference in my opinion is that the US is prepared with good sounding reasons and excuses.

 

[Druid799]

15 hours ago, YAo said:

Personally, I don't particularly mind myself or others wearing Russian gear in games. How many modern armies are completely innocent? Is the US military doing good in various Middle Eastern countries? But fans of American gear are still the most numerous. The difference in my opinion is that the US is prepared with good sounding reasons and excuses.

 

I’m impressed I haven’t seen that good an apologist excuse in a very long time ! You a Russian 🤖 by any chance ? 🤦‍♂️

[The Waco Kid]

Well if you have Russian kit it might go up in value. A lot of it seems to have holes in it now, especially the trousers.

 

In order to avoid controversy probably best to wear the Magdelene Nun load out instead of playing as a Red Dawn extra.

[Cannonfodder]

42 minutes ago, The Waco Kid said:

A lot of it seems to have holes in it now, especially the trousers.

Along with suspicious brown stains on the back and inside legs