Wife just bought me a specna arms e07 edge need advice on parts and upgrades

[steverebo]

So I mentioned that I wanted to start doing airsoft so my wide treated me to a specna arms 07 edge. I have read a lot of stuff and watched a lot of videos and the concesus was I been to open it and Check its all OK give a good lube a d remove any rough bits so whilst in there I think I might replace a few bits but being new I wondered if I could have a bit of guidance.

 

I was looking ate going with the below:

 

Rocket SHS 13:1

OR

Rocket SHS 16:1 GEARS 

SHS high torque 16tpa motor

J-caged 8mm bearings 

Prometheus purple hop rubber

BP customs m4 timer trigger

Replacement o-rings 

 

How does all this sound and will it work?

 

[BigStew]

Why do you want to change anything? have you used the gun? if so have you chrono'd it have you set the hop for the bbs you want to use? have you check the range(if you are getting 50ms you'll be putting in a lot of effort for not massive returns) other than give the barrel a clean unless you have specific goals in mind just leave it alone, especially if you only have one gun you really don't want to start upgrading a gun unless you have a back up. 

[EDcase]

Oh no, why do you want to fiddle with a perfectly good purchase straight away? 🙄

After all that, assuming it actually works, how will you even know if you've improved it or not? 🤨

 

If you really want advice then just clean the barrel as our Stew said and enjoy it.  Its good out of the box unless you got a lemon.

Think about upgrading if something goes wrong or definitely needs improving after using it and getting to know the sport.

 

...and really appreciate your wife 😁

 

 

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by EDcase

[heroshark]

No harm in chucking a nicer hop rubber in it maybe even a nicer barrel if you want to throw some more money at it.  But as the others said if the gearbox is ticking over fine at a reasonable consistent enough power leave it be till it breaks.

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by heroshark

[steverebo]

Yes I know, I know touching it straight away is silly. I Will obviously have a play with it first but having seen every video showing the orion gearbox and the lack of grease and some qc issues that need cleaning up being a bit of a tinkerer (custom watercooling/3d printing) I'm not too scared of ha ing a play

2 minutes ago, heroshark said:

No harm in chucking a nicer hop rubber in it maybe even a nicer barrel if you want to throw some more money at it.  But as the others said if the gearbox is ticking over fine at a reasonable power leave it be till it breaks.

 

What barrel would you recommend? 

[Druid799]

24 minutes ago, steverebo said:

Yes I know, I know touching it straight away is silly. I Will obviously have a play with it first but having seen every video showing the orion gearbox and the lack of grease and some qc issues that need cleaning up being a bit of a tinkerer (custom watercooling/3d printing) I'm not too scared of ha ing a play

What barrel would you recommend? 

Mate without intending to be harsh but you know jack shit about Airsofting and your planning to rip your new gun apart (that you haven’t even used yet !) because you’ve seen some YouTube vid’s ?😳 Chill out , take a breath , go to your 1ST skirmish day use it then repeat this process multiple time THEN start thinking “do I need to upgrade XYZ in it or not ?” 🤔

Belive me you’ll enjoy the sport a lot more if you learn to walk before even think about running .😉

👍😁

[Tackle]

@steverebo mate, in more than twenty years I've never had to "upgrade" a new gun straight away, some I've used for years without having to touch them, my oldest gun has been running perfectly for approx 18 years ffs, not even serviced as such.

IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT

just play & enjoy it....... Simples

[steverebo]

13 minutes ago, Druid799 said:

Mate without intending to be harsh but you know jack shit about Airsofting and your planning to rip your new gun apart (that you haven’t even used yet !) because you’ve seen some YouTube vid’s ?😳 Chill out , take a breath , go to your 1ST skirmish day use it then repeat this process multiple time THEN start thinking “do I need to upgrade XYZ in it or not ?” 🤔

Belive me you’ll enjoy the sport a lot more if you learn to walk before even think about running .😉

👍😁

Very true and your right despite all the vids and articles I have read I don't have a clue about the sport yet just very excited and want to buy new things for my new toy and make it my own.

 

Any recommendations on what I could buy for it that does not involve playing with the gearbox for now?

 

I did grab a nuprol 11.1v 30c battery and smart charger 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Recommendations:

 

Decent eye pro

Decent boots

Gloves 

Cheap poncho for when it pisses it down

Quality BBs

 

I am a tinkerer by nature, but even I leave rifs alone until something breaks or a well tested mod is easy to carry out and has proven results on that particular gun, AND which achieves a definite performance aim.   

 

Go and enjoy yourself.   If you say where you are, perhaps someone on here can meet up with you on site and lead you astray into a life of wasting serious money playing with toy guns, sorry,  ;show you the ropes.;  

[ImTriggerHappy]

7 hours ago, steverebo said:

Very true and your right despite all the vids and articles I have read I don't have a clue about the sport yet just very excited and want to buy new things for my new toy and make it my own.

 

Any recommendations on what I could buy for it that does not involve playing with the gearbox for now?

 

I did grab a nuprol 11.1v 30c battery and smart charger 

Do nothing to the gun internally until you have played a fair bit and see if there is anything you feel like needs improving. Trying to upgrade a gun without a goal and the knowledge is pointless and will 99% percent of the time just make it worse.

 

Chuck a few external bits on like a red dot or scope and get a sling.

 

Return the nuprol smart charger and get a sky rc t100.

[Adolf Hamster]

in case it wasn't clear from everyone else, tinkering straight away isn't the greatest idea, especially when you don't have a reliable backup.

 

don't get me wrong, tinkering on pews can be enjoyable and rewarding for those so inclined, and i do recommend people learn it themselves because in the long run it's great being able to sort issues yourself, buy secondhand with confidence etc, but the time and place to dive into it is not when you only have one pew, no experience and nothing to fall back on should it not work out.

 

as someone who didn't take that advice and jumped straight in trust me the walk of shame when your latest experiment has resulted in a gun that doesn't shoot, or shoots so badly it's unplayable gets very old very quickly.

 

7 hours ago, Tactical Pith Helmet said:

Decent eye pro

Decent boots

Gloves 

Cheap poncho for when it pisses it down

Quality BBs

 

^ is definitely a better avenue for you to look at spending your money/effort on, you can include things like slings, maybe a red dot (unless you prefer iron sights, that's fine too), magazines (eg midcaps+a decent speedloader if you don't like winding hicaps).

 

once you've got setup and are comfortable you can try grabbing a cheap secondhand gun and have a crack at tinkering with it, safe in the knowledge that your main gun is going to still serve you well when needed.

[ak2m4]

tinkers gotta tinkle 🙂 Play with it, buy a 2nd tickle your heart away.  If you do feel the urge try some different buckings.  Prom ain't bad, it's a good standard design.  Maple Leaf also do some pretty good ones.  Experiment with those, give the barrel a nice clean, polish it if you really want to.

[steverebo]

Cheers guys for the advice maybe a bone yard gun after a few months of playing will tickle that tinkering itch,

 

what speed loader and mid cap mags would you guys recommend?

 

Just grabbed a red dot sight and owning a 3d printer has some advantages as I have printed a nicer fore grip and a mag well is on the print bed now

[heroshark]

9 hours ago, steverebo said:

What barrel would you recommend? 

A really horrendously expensive one to make up for the lack of to upgrades.

[BigStew]

15 minutes ago, steverebo said:

Cheers guys for the advice maybe a bone yard gun after a few months of playing will tickle that tinkering itch,

 

what speed loader and mid cap mags would you guys recommend?

 

Just grabbed a red dot sight and owning a 3d printer has some advantages as I have printed a nicer fore grip and a mag well is on the print bed now

a proper Odin speed loader is exspensive but worth it compared to the knock offs. Mag wise it's generally better to stick to the same brand as the gun but with Airsoft that's not a guarantee. Generally MAG mid caps have a relatively high capacity and are more likely to feed fine than other brands. You take commissions for printing might pay the next gun?

[Adolf Hamster]

6 minutes ago, BigStew said:

a proper Odin speed loader is exspensive but worth it compared to the knock offs.

 

definately this, takes all the pain out of loading midcaps.

[steverebo]

1 hour ago, BigStew said:

a proper Odin speed loader is exspensive but worth it compared to the knock offs. Mag wise it's generally better to stick to the same brand as the gun but with Airsoft that's not a guarantee. Generally MAG mid caps have a relatively high capacity and are more likely to feed fine than other brands. You take commissions for printing might pay the next gun?

Brill I feel really need to waste money on something for this gun so I will grab the speed loader and MAG mags.

 

Yes I do do commmissions on the side to fund the cost of my filaments and printer bits.

 

Didn't realise till now how much can be printed for airsoft

[BigStew]

25 minutes ago, steverebo said:

Brill I feel really need to waste money on something for this gun so I will grab the speed loader and MAG mags.

 

Yes I do do commmissions on the side to fund the cost of my filaments and printer bits.

 

Didn't realise till now how much can be printed for airsoft

I can also add tracer to list of toys to get before you upgrade. What size printer bed you have? If ok I'll pm you when I finish work.

[heroshark]

Looking at the spec it already has a precision 6.03 barrel of some sort. Won't be as quality as some barrels but should really be good enough.

[Rogerborg]

1 hour ago, BigStew said:

a proper Odin speed loader is exspensive but worth it compared to the knock offs

 

I respectfully disagree, I've been using a knock off happily for years.  The handles break off, always, but it's not rocket surgery to fettle something on, and OP is a 3d sorceror.  Worse case, you can get a knockoff + a whole new set of Odin internals for less than an Odin.  I just wouldn't recommend sinking big money into anything for someone who hasn't played yet.  Eyepro, boots, then get out and play.

 

My Specna is actually fairly fussy about midcaps, although to be fair most of mine have tired springs. It works well with its own midcaps, or hi-caps.

 

If you do want to swap barrels, ZCI or AOLS are both decent for not much money, and of course Maple Leaf or Prometheus rubbers.

Specnas are back to being decent enough out of the box, they shouldn't need anything done except for a barrel clean.  Even the lube on mine was actually on the gears rather than just sneezed all over the shell.  One thing to be aware of is that they come with an M120 spring (too spicy) and an M90, and will likely have the M90 fitted.  It's sufficient, but I'd suggest throwing an M100 in there for woodland use - all conditional on what air seal and actual muzzle energy you get.

 

On that, if you are going to get into airsoft teching, a chrono is pretty much required in order to avoid chrono oopsies at site - I've had a couple of guns accidentally come out way hot after getting the air seal spot on, and had to down-spring them.

 

I agree that the best thing to do with that Nuprol charger is return it as soon as possible, before it ruins your battery or burns your house down.  That isn't a joke, we'd had multiple reports of fires.  SkyRC stuff is where it's at, an S65 will be fine for most people.

 

And I completely get the urge to tinker, I'm forever messing around with my collection even while saying "Stop it, Rog, you know what's going to happen."  Straight up though, if you actually intend to play, getting one working, stock gun and leaving it alone, particularly inside the gearbox, is a solid plan.  Those child slave labourers are getting pretty good at what they do.

 

Many videos and Reddit threads you'll see or read are... idiomatic to problematic.  Approach with an open mind as regarding their veracity.

[steverebo]

Cheers guys you have all been a great help I've gone and purchased a zci 6.02 294mm barrel and Prometheus purple bucking and nub and I have 3d printed a much nicer foregrip and a magwell in petg that both look lovely currently printing a holder for my surefire torch (I didn't buy it it was issued to me as a recruit many years back) and I've got a dual mag holder and some keymod covers ready to print

 

Also where can I grab a cheap chrono?

 

On 17/12/2021 at 10:23, BigStew said:

I can also add tracer to list of toys to get before you upgrade. What size printer bed you have? If ok I'll pm you when I finish work.

I have a cr6 se printer 235 x 235 print bed I print pla and petg 

Edited December 18, 2021 by steverebo