Daveoc33 Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 This isn't new news I'm afraid - it was publicised in March this year but I thought I'd post in case it's of interest. 81m is the guinness world record for a sub 1 joule airsoft rifle using less than 0.32g bbs. The video is a reproduction rather than the actual record being broken and it's in itallian. From what I can tell using google translate he used the following setup to do this: g&g sbr tr16 mk1 zero-shock piston (green) double lapping stainless steel cylinder 275mm "diamond" barrel blue hop rubber "without internal groove and without internal hump" he mentions Omega but it's not clear if this is an omega nub or not he also mentions the word "flat" but it's not clear to me if this is a flat hop or just a description of the hop rubber. a bag of g&g bbs I think Looks like you can buy most of this stuff at this guy's shop which is lucky... They don't go into how many shots it took him to do this and I wonder what kind of a tail wind the record breaking bb had when it hit the target. Good on him though. It sets the bar at least. Rogerborg and EDcase 1 1
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 This is like a reenactment of the world's longest dick measuring contest, with the usual spats over top-or-bottom, shaft-vs-balls. Incidentally, none of these rules/guidelines appear to be listed on the Guinness site. https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/96291-longest-airsoft-target-shot Jacob Wright and tinkle60 2
Tommikka Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Rogerborg said: This is like a reenactment of the world's longest dick measuring contest, with the usual spats over top-or-bottom, shaft-vs-balls. Incidentally, none of these rules/guidelines appear to be listed on the Guinness site. https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/96291-longest-airsoft-target-shot Guinness confirmed, but won’t list my measurements as they deem that world record to be ‘inappropriate’ Many records these days are about trying to find something that hasn’t been listed before, so if you have some reasonable criteria than you have an instant record - and when you’re beat at least you were first. The other is about hype and advertising. The ‘longest’ paintball shot has existed in a few ways, such as the worlds longest shot - but unofficial because it was just a side ‘competition’ at an event Then a few organisers do it as well and either try to refine it guaranteeing a new ‘longest’ shot or they just make a traders puff with claims and ignore anything else One might go to the bother of booking an official adjudicator to turn up and gain the official longest shot These go hand in hand with publicity stunt ‘advertising’ such as the guy who got all the Daily Mail headlines with a paintball tester job vacancy at £50000 per year ….. plus small print - zero hours contract hourly rate equivalent to £50000 per annum The job being a Marshall / gopher zero hours contract including a photo opportunity getting shot for the Daily Mail follow up story On another tack though…. 81.1 metres is nothing Everyone should be queuing up with their ninja springer snipers from Bbguns4less that can shoot a nats left testical at 500 miles Monkman, SSPKali and Rogerborg 2 1
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 am i the only one thinking that's heavy looking paper for a sub 1j bb to be penetrating at that range..... edit: some of the excel equivalent of back of a fag packet calculations suggest for a 0.48g bb we're talking ~0.07j of energy at 81m (assuming still air of ρ=1.225kg/m³ and constant drag coefficient of 0.45 for laminar flow (which iirc i remember checking and apparently it is for our energy levels)) Rogerborg 1
EDcase Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 Hard to tell from the editing but did it take all those shots to get a hit? Its quite an impressive range no doubt. As I understand it, you just have to pay Guinness a rather hefty fee to come and 'witness' your record attempt.
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 Mmm, if I wanted to beat it, I'd just point the GNU up in the air a bit, lob high cap after high cap, and wait for airsoft random magic (and the wind) to do its thing.
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Mmm, if I wanted to beat it, I'd just point the GNU up in the air a bit, lob high cap after high cap, and wait for airsoft random magic (and the wind) to do its thing. must say i'm inclined to agree. i'd even put money on it, just not as much money as Guinness charges, which is kinda the point with records like this. Rogerborg 1
Albiscuit Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 Is that all? People are always talking about shooting further than that and the opposition not taking the hit in the safe zone..... oh wait!... Rogerborg, John_W and Ebeneezer Goode 3
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Albiscuit said: People are always talking about shooting further than that and the opposition not taking the hit Ah, but this is only a 1J BB. Wait, surely using Airsoft Science, you'd get even more range from a 0.8J BB. (From a TM recoil, of course)
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Wait, surely using Airsoft Science, you'd get even more range from a 0.8J BB. (From a TM recoil, of course) not just recoils, any tm will outrange anything at 0.8j. except the vsr10, those need stronger springs apparently. Rogerborg 1
Popular Post John_W Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Posted September 8, 2021 I hear Kicking Mustang beat the record. Guiness disputes it but his scope cam clearly shows the hit. ? SSPKali, Skullchewer, MadMole and 5 others 8
SSPKali Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 8 hours ago, EDcase said: As I understand it, you just have to pay Guinness a rather hefty fee to come and 'witness' your record attempt. As someone who tried to get them to come and certify a world record I can confirm this is not the case, they generally tell you that yours is too silly (really?! Have you seen some of the stuff they certify?) and then threaten legal action if you call it a "world record" with out them verifying it (even if you never mention the G word) Last email to them was pretty much summed up as "Go away in small, jerky movements' John_W, Tommikka, EDcase and 1 other 1 3
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 8, 2021 Supporters Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, SSPKali said: then threaten legal action if you call it a "world record" with out them verifying it (even if you never mention the G word) yeah heard of this too. seems they've fallen quite far into the well of dirty tactics since the internet made finding out records from the original source much easier to find. Rogerborg and SSPKali 1 1
Oneshotscott Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 Pretty sure lee wade from 6mm long range airsoft group (fb) has made 'lob' shots close to 150m with his tanaka. Yes he's above 1j but I imagine if anyone's perusing the longest shot for an airsoft rif it's someone on his group, whether they are in the UK or overseas.
Cannonfodder Posted September 11, 2021 Posted September 11, 2021 Meh. Another publicity stunt by an attention seeking goontuber EvilMonkee and Rogerborg 1 1
hunter511 Posted September 15, 2021 Posted September 15, 2021 On 11/09/2021 at 13:41, Cannonfodder said: Meh. Another publicity stunt by an attention seeking goontuber Coming next Licking Mustard being Guiness Certified as the world record holder for "most obnoxious airsoft personality" John_W and ARC Fives 2
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 16, 2021 Supporters Posted September 16, 2021 13 hours ago, hunter511 said: Coming next Licking Mustard being Guiness Certified as the world record holder for "most banned airsoft personality" Fixed that for you. hunter511 and John_W 2
gasman Posted September 30, 2021 Posted September 30, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 11:05, Adolf Hamster said: am i the only one thinking that's heavy looking paper for a sub 1j bb to be penetrating at that range..... edit: some of the excel equivalent of back of a fag packet calculations suggest for a 0.48g bb we're talking ~0.07j of energy at 81m (assuming still air of ρ=1.225kg/m³ and constant drag coefficient of 0.45 for laminar flow (which iirc i remember checking and apparently it is for our energy levels)) Sorry nodded off there
JayFive Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 On 08/09/2021 at 08:39, Daveoc33 said: This isn't new news I'm afraid - it was publicised in March this year but I thought I'd post in case it's of interest. 81m is the guinness world record for a sub 1 joule airsoft rifle using less than 0.32g bbs. The video is a reproduction rather than the actual record being broken and it's in itallian. From what I can tell using google translate he used the following setup to do this: g&g sbr tr16 mk1 zero-shock piston (green) double lapping stainless steel cylinder 275mm "diamond" barrel blue hop rubber "without internal groove and without internal hump" he mentions Omega but it's not clear if this is an omega nub or not he also mentions the word "flat" but it's not clear to me if this is a flat hop or just a description of the hop rubber. a bag of g&g bbs I think Looks like you can buy most of this stuff at this guy's shop which is lucky... They don't go into how many shots it took him to do this and I wonder what kind of a tail wind the record breaking bb had when it hit the target. Good on him though. It sets the bar at least. Im a marshal for my local site been doing it 3 or 4 years now, If you watch the video more carefully, when they Chrono the .32 bb the chrono weight hasn't been changed to suit ( .95 joules on .2)
SSPKali Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 18 hours ago, JayFive said: On 08/09/2021 at 08:39, Daveoc33 said: Im a marshal for my local site been doing it 3 or 4 years now, If you watch the video more carefully, when they Chrono the .32 bb the chrono weight hasn't been changed to suit ( .95 joules on .2) So 98m/s on a 0.32g BB = 1.54J * Bunch of muppets. Are you going to tell them or am I? *According to: https://www.zerooneairsoft.com/airsoft-fps-calculator
Tommikka Posted March 14, 2023 Posted March 14, 2023 The website doesn’t list the specifics https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/96291-longest-airsoft-target-shot …. and the video is a ‘recreation’, so the video contents may or may not differ from the ‘real’ attempt Official records will usually have a set of rules (such as the settings and also I would guess a flat horizontal shot to avoid tricks such as angling upwards to add range) However, it is all of course a PR stunt with all the parts used being available to buy from the record holder Rogerborg 1
Supporters Rogerborg Posted March 14, 2023 Supporters Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Tommikka said: I would guess a flat horizontal shot to avoid tricks such as angling upwards to add range) I can't imagine a practical way to measure or enforce that, which is why I suggested a ballistic lob, spray, and pray. 2 hours ago, Tommikka said: However, it is all of course a PR stunt with all the parts used being available to buy from the record holder Heh, good spot, I hadn't even noticed that. Well, now it makes "sense", although I'm surprised Novritsch hasn't got in on it.
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