Tommikka

joys of being single and childless, I buy what takes my fancy but i like pistols more than I like long arms so relatively cheap.

I prefer to do it as 2 rules:
Surrender & tag

They are the source of arguments, but the rules ought to be clear:
 
Surrender is an option:
You get close up and choose to be nice, asking for surrender.
They are able to decline and shoot back.
If they don’t accept you need to be ready to shoot them.
I don’t set minimum engagement rules, so if surrender isn’t accepted it’s valid to shoot.
Arguments occur - but if you offer the option to surrender you ought to be willing to enforce it, if you don’t want to risk being shot up close then step back and shoot first.
 
Tag is a kill:
(Knife kill, barrel tag, tap on shoulder etc)
If you approach someone and can touch them -  then you have a valid kill.
Arguments also occur - usually because  the victim gets their pants in a twist as they are so ‘awesome’ that it’s impossible to tag them so there must have been cheating 
 
Most arguments on these are because one of the player just didn’t like the outcome (because they are awesome or because the target decided to shoot) or players are not paying attention to the rules - not listening to the brief or reading info packs.
 
 
Compulsory bang kills / surrenders at minimum engagement can be a cause too - not complying to the distance, or not judging the distance.
If everyone is a big boy/big girl, and there aren’t special factors such as young rentals then I prefer to avoid minimum engagement.
 
 
Any rule set that I produce has surrender and tag rules in place by default, unless it’s unsuitable for the game.
eg I disallow them in our Battle Royale series .... but I did allow one surrender 
In the first seconds two players met face to face around a corner as I watched by the door.
They both yelped, only one was armed, the other just said ‘surrender’ and stepped out.
I couldn't blame him
 
 

Yes.
Breaking down to parts could be viewed upon as trying to deceive.  Then you get grumpy customs and airline staff 
 
IFs, RIFs .... and also contrary to popular belief - firearms are legal in the UK and can be transported in aircraft.
You just need to be in the right legal status:
Not overpowered, have the skirmisher defence ready for RIFs and have the right licencing and good reason for firearms.
Pack it well, check airline policies, put in a magazine (print magazine that shows what airsoft is), declare it properly and there shouldn’t be issues.
Make sure you have good time before flights when checking in just in case they want to do extra checks 

On a legal basis within the UK, businesses with employees are legally required to have employers liability insurance.
Specific types of business / professions have requirements under their regulatory bodies - which may or may not be a legal requirement, or may be the terms of that industries/professions regulatory body.  e.g. professional indemnity.
 
The skirmisher defence under the VCRA/statutory instrument requires the venues that qualify the players skirmisher status to have third party liability insurance.
There could be other insurance covering things such as the premises, equipment and the scope of the insurance may cover the location and/or specific activities & events..
 
I would expect a site to have as a minimum to have both employers liability and third party liability insurance.
But there may not be a legal requirement for them both.
 
The UKARA requires site members to have public liability insurance.
 
In paintball I know more about the UKPSF as a governing body which only accredits sites that meet their 'code of practice' criteria which includes public liability insurance, levels of staffing, first aid, risk assessments etc.
As an event organiser TFD are a team who have run events over the years, we don't own a site and run in collaboration with the sites we have used.   The UKPSF added us as a special category as they recognised our events.  We were listed in a specific manner to illustrate that they recognised TFD events run on UKPSF accredited venues.
This afforded us the 'benefit' that UKPSF member players were also covered by the members personal liability insurance.
We aren't connected with the UKARA, but have run our airsoft games at Ironsight who are UKARA accredited.  
(I'm less familiar with airsoft, which is why I became a member here and leave the airsoft specifics to the site and our guys who know more)
 
The waiver that you sign at a site, (Could be a combination of a form signed at every game and/or when signing up for membership), is an acknowledgement that you are aware of the types of activities and your responsibilities.
'Waiver/disclaimer' aren't ideal names, it does not remove anyone from their responsibilities or liabilities.  The contents of the form should cover the relevant mitigations of risk assessments.
 
Our first event was a number of firsts - our first event, the sites first non-rental game, and also the first UKSPC event which was a new group of scenario organisers.
This brought in challenges to check on insurance and the requirements of us, the site, the UKPSF, UKPSC and the insurers and to re-write the disclaimer/waiver which was orientated around rental players and unsuitable for an own gunner event.
We were able to change some of the rules - e.g. permitting own gunners to keep their guns in the safe zone (made safe, barrel blocked etc)
Its normal for players to self fill air at events, and rental sites may have processes / insurance that only permit staff to fill site bottles.
One of the UKSPC criteria required air safety training and we were able to run the safety course and issue cards, the insurance permitted staff to fill non site bottles but did not permit players to self fill.  We ran the safety course, issued cards and then operated the air system for the players.  (we even ran a bottle swap system and players were willing give us their own bottles swapped for site bottles leaving them in the battle, with us bringing the filled bottles back - that was hard work!!!!)
At a later date the site changed their risk assessments & mitigations and allowed for self fills under the insurance.
 
Site third public liability insurance covers the site / business from claims raised by a customer or other third party for damage to property, injury, medical costs, loss of earnings and the PLI pays for legal costs, compensation etc for damage.  (All dependant on the actual policy)
 
Waiver/disclaimer the waiver is often used as data collection, and used for future marketing etc.  This should be detailed on the form.
As an agreement it will cover basic rules, such as whether you are only permitted to use site gear, BBs, pyro, whether you can bring & use your own, etc, that you are aware of what activity is happening, that you acknowledge your responsibilities etc
(I've seen events that have failed to have a suitable waiver where they made players sign the sites standard rental waiver but use their own gear)
 
Personal insurance 
You may get your own insurance.  The UKPSF provide player insurance which gives additional cover such as 3rd party liability for anything caused by the player/their equipment and medical/loss of earnings cover.
I have other personal insurance and my employers terms of employment give me much better cover so I would never be able to claim.
Originally there was one level of UKPSF player membership, and all of the fees went to the insurance premiums rather than to the UKPSF.
They later added multiple levels, with insured and uninsured.  I changed my membership to uninsured which means my fee goes into the UKPSF rather than paying an insurance premium which I could not claim against.
 
COVID
The OP orginally posted up before that they intended to create their own 'off world' site in a disused property, and were given advice.
This thread might mean that they have gone ahead with something but on an outdoors basis.
They don't appear to be fully aware of all of the issues of running a site or events if they cannot see the reasons why sites are closed.
 
Games can be run - but they need to be run in a safe manner for the activities and in a safe manner for the current COVID situation.
Theres a reason why sites have not reopened yet
 
 
 
 

On a legal basis within the UK, businesses with employees are legally required to have employers liability insurance.
Specific types of business / professions have requirements under their regulatory bodies - which may or may not be a legal requirement, or may be the terms of that industries/professions regulatory body.  e.g. professional indemnity.
 
The skirmisher defence under the VCRA/statutory instrument requires the venues that qualify the players skirmisher status to have third party liability insurance.
There could be other insurance covering things such as the premises, equipment and the scope of the insurance may cover the location and/or specific activities & events..
 
I would expect a site to have as a minimum to have both employers liability and third party liability insurance.
But there may not be a legal requirement for them both.
 
The UKARA requires site members to have public liability insurance.
 
In paintball I know more about the UKPSF as a governing body which only accredits sites that meet their 'code of practice' criteria which includes public liability insurance, levels of staffing, first aid, risk assessments etc.
As an event organiser TFD are a team who have run events over the years, we don't own a site and run in collaboration with the sites we have used.   The UKPSF added us as a special category as they recognised our events.  We were listed in a specific manner to illustrate that they recognised TFD events run on UKPSF accredited venues.
This afforded us the 'benefit' that UKPSF member players were also covered by the members personal liability insurance.
We aren't connected with the UKARA, but have run our airsoft games at Ironsight who are UKARA accredited.  
(I'm less familiar with airsoft, which is why I became a member here and leave the airsoft specifics to the site and our guys who know more)
 
The waiver that you sign at a site, (Could be a combination of a form signed at every game and/or when signing up for membership), is an acknowledgement that you are aware of the types of activities and your responsibilities.
'Waiver/disclaimer' aren't ideal names, it does not remove anyone from their responsibilities or liabilities.  The contents of the form should cover the relevant mitigations of risk assessments.
 
Our first event was a number of firsts - our first event, the sites first non-rental game, and also the first UKSPC event which was a new group of scenario organisers.
This brought in challenges to check on insurance and the requirements of us, the site, the UKPSF, UKPSC and the insurers and to re-write the disclaimer/waiver which was orientated around rental players and unsuitable for an own gunner event.
We were able to change some of the rules - e.g. permitting own gunners to keep their guns in the safe zone (made safe, barrel blocked etc)
Its normal for players to self fill air at events, and rental sites may have processes / insurance that only permit staff to fill site bottles.
One of the UKSPC criteria required air safety training and we were able to run the safety course and issue cards, the insurance permitted staff to fill non site bottles but did not permit players to self fill.  We ran the safety course, issued cards and then operated the air system for the players.  (we even ran a bottle swap system and players were willing give us their own bottles swapped for site bottles leaving them in the battle, with us bringing the filled bottles back - that was hard work!!!!)
At a later date the site changed their risk assessments & mitigations and allowed for self fills under the insurance.
 
Site third public liability insurance covers the site / business from claims raised by a customer or other third party for damage to property, injury, medical costs, loss of earnings and the PLI pays for legal costs, compensation etc for damage.  (All dependant on the actual policy)
 
Waiver/disclaimer the waiver is often used as data collection, and used for future marketing etc.  This should be detailed on the form.
As an agreement it will cover basic rules, such as whether you are only permitted to use site gear, BBs, pyro, whether you can bring & use your own, etc, that you are aware of what activity is happening, that you acknowledge your responsibilities etc
(I've seen events that have failed to have a suitable waiver where they made players sign the sites standard rental waiver but use their own gear)
 
Personal insurance 
You may get your own insurance.  The UKPSF provide player insurance which gives additional cover such as 3rd party liability for anything caused by the player/their equipment and medical/loss of earnings cover.
I have other personal insurance and my employers terms of employment give me much better cover so I would never be able to claim.
Originally there was one level of UKPSF player membership, and all of the fees went to the insurance premiums rather than to the UKPSF.
They later added multiple levels, with insured and uninsured.  I changed my membership to uninsured which means my fee goes into the UKPSF rather than paying an insurance premium which I could not claim against.
 
COVID
The OP orginally posted up before that they intended to create their own 'off world' site in a disused property, and were given advice.
This thread might mean that they have gone ahead with something but on an outdoors basis.
They don't appear to be fully aware of all of the issues of running a site or events if they cannot see the reasons why sites are closed.
 
Games can be run - but they need to be run in a safe manner for the activities and in a safe manner for the current COVID situation.
Theres a reason why sites have not reopened yet
 
 
 
 

There’s potential there - but I often recommend the avoidance of initial reactions being defensive.
 
The tweet is worded well:
They are legal and the problem is crossing of the boundary.
Direct risk to the neighbour is unnecessary to the situation.  May be real risk as the shooter didn’t realise balls were going near to neighbours, or the general risk of exceeding boundaries.
 
 
A cooperative air-weapon owner forfeited these legally owned air weapons today having fired them beyond his properties boundary causing risk to his neighbours & prompting a call to us. Offence committed under the Firearms act. Advice given & weapons signed over for destruction.

The part about site fills was just whether you’d need convincing to go to a 13ci from a 48ci, or if you didn’t have site fills and needed extra air etc
 
I can’t think back for certain - but a MOLLE MP5 pouch should fit a 13ci, and would fit one column of MOLLE.  I’ve used them for paintball pods, which is tight at first, and I’m sure I’ve put my 13ci in one before.
(I prefer to lose the remote line and use the bottle on the gun to avoid tangling etc)

There’s also the option to make a skeleton strap bottle holder for a 13ci.
Two or three horizontal strap loops and one vertical strap to secure it
 

No. She worked out that I’m a paintballer who does stuff with airsofters

Much as I like to hate mesh and recommend people use full face goggles, plus my ignorance of ‘mag flash’ and only having just looked them up ........
 
The issue here appears to be magflash

Much as I like to hate mesh and recommend people use full face goggles, plus my ignorance of ‘mag flash’ and only having just looked them up ........
 
The issue here appears to be magflash

I think that's more of an argument against mag flashes than mesh, tbh. 
 
Hope your mate makes a quick recovery. And a tidy nurse. 

Or you could weigh a BB, (or a number of BBs and divide the weight by the quantity which allows for sensitivity of the scales), and use an airsoft chronographs built in functions

Or you could weigh a BB, (or a number of BBs and divide the weight by the quantity which allows for sensitivity of the scales), and use an airsoft chronographs built in functions

‘Defence’ is not you defending from prosecution, eg in court.
 
If a player buys a RIF then that player does so under the skirmisher defence.
But it is the retailer who would be liable under legislation if the player does not have the defence 
 
That means a retailer might need to go to court one day and defend themselves from prosecution, establishing that their ‘Legal defence’ is that they reasonably ensured that the buyer had a VCRA ‘defence’ implying that they intended to use the RIF for skirmishing.
 
In modifying then you are the individual who could be liable for prosecution and could need to prove your legal defence of your skirmisher defence 
The site manager won’t care.
The greater risk is to come to the attention of the police 
 
One way to start defending your position is to not tell people that you are painting it

This would be seen as gambling and unless licenced or within specific criteria is likely to be illegal.
 
 
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/PDF/Organising-small-lotteries.pdf
 
 
A prize competition would be legal, but it would be up to the forum admins/moderators as to whether it complied with forum rules 
Bonus ball lotteries don’t comply with prize competition requirements 
 
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-gambling/Consumer-guides/Running-prize-competitions-and-free-draws.aspx

If you buy in the UK without a valid defence then any offence under the VCRA  is committed by the seller.
A reputable retailer will either paint it to two tone or decline the sale.
 

This would be seen as gambling and unless licenced or within specific criteria is likely to be illegal.
 
 
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/PDF/Organising-small-lotteries.pdf
 
 
A prize competition would be legal, but it would be up to the forum admins/moderators as to whether it complied with forum rules 
Bonus ball lotteries don’t comply with prize competition requirements 
 
https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-the-public/Safer-gambling/Consumer-guides/Running-prize-competitions-and-free-draws.aspx

I sometimes judge people from videos ..... but it’s not the player in front of the camera that I judge .....

I sometimes judge people from videos ..... but it’s not the player in front of the camera that I judge .....

If it ‘adversely’ affects your reputation, then you could

Photography & videos have legal implications but are not widely understood 
 
A blanket waiver giving permission would not help - but including information in the waiver that photography may take place is a start (though may not be read) and a mention in briefs etc
They give the option for individuals to object - for piss taking defences, just because you don’t want it, or you may have protection issues.
 
Legally I can take your photo in a public place, I can publish it online (social media, general internet etc), I can sell the photo - but I cannot make “commercial use” of the photo without your permission.  (If you sign off permission then I can use it commercially in many ways that you may not have thought of)
 
A site is a private place rather than a public place, so I need some form of permission to take photos - I could just take photos unless I’m told not to, I could be representing the site, I could be official/recognised media, I could be just some bloke taking photos of a fun day out 
 
 

When I go to Gunman games I usually ask not to be photographed as I am serving military.  Not cos I do a super secret squirrel job but cos I don't want the piss ripped LOL.
 
Thats one of the few sites that I have heard that actively mention it.

Bank of Scotland mate  

What bank & what type of card did you use?
 
Eg Did they do this due to credit card regulations? (which probably wouldn’t apply to a private sale anyway, and I think PayPal also don’t meet that criteria)
Or due to the banks own fraud policy?
 
Did they say whether or not they have drawn a ‘charge back’ and thus refunded you, or that they have taken the hit to pursue?

Hello mate I’m not sure what they did to be fair I never asked, I was just happy and relieved I got my money back  
 
cheers