Tommikka

I don't know what sort of cosmic coincidence is this but I have never had to know about stair climbers before yesterday, but right after seeing this thread yesterday I got to see one in action when we had to remove something similar down some flights of stairs
 
Think it might be a Escalera Staircat which looks something like this which is apparently good for 540 kg which should be well suited for what OP was asking, spam or not
 
Anyway, just very strange coincidence

I see you're a Colonial chap who's talking about real steel (again: this is an airsoft forum, toy guns, pew-pew-pew), so why not order an auto-sear online using your credit card and let your government come and remove your safes for you?
 

its a spam bot

The key problem is not the weight of safes, but ensuring they are stable (strapped to the trolley / dolly), and that you have good grip / control
 
When moving the safe upright on a trolley you need balance to ensure the weight is going down the trolley to its wheels and not onto you holding the trolley up.
 
With the triple sets of stair wheels you aren’t wheeling the trolley up the full set of stairs but are wheeling the corner point of each step - in theory this is then a series of single steps, therefore you’re pulling the safe up one step at a time.
 
 
 
https://youtube.com/shorts/-PzRd6VhI_4?si=d0OuHmzCJaFsTfRi

 

I would prefer it to be two people, one ‘controling’ from the top of the trolley, and ideally not holding two vertical handles but with a cross bar (so that their grip isn’t around a vertical which can slip) and the second acting as a brace below with some push.
 
 
 
Powered ones would be ‘better’ in theory but the power element is in the moving - ideally you aren’t taking the weight in the movement so to a degree that’s laziness 
The best feature of these types is the rubber track, which also comes in evacuation trolleys 
 

The ‘tracks’ are there to span across all of the steps, but with their grip they prevent the load from running away from you.
(I hope that I don’t need to tell anyone not to use an evacuation chair to move a safe !!!)
A decent trolley with the tracked feature would be good, but a solid multi wheeled stair trolley will do the job 
 
Just remember to think before each movement - is it steady, secure etc and are you in control?

Tour of duty of course

I see a red door and I want to paint it black
 
 

Hello. I'm Liam, the current President of Cardiff's Airsoft Society. I've seen that you've spoken already with some of the other members on our Discord but just wanted to pop our experience and advice here for others to see.
 
Unfortunately, in Cardiff University accomodation (and most other University Accomodation), airsoft guns are not permitted as they would be considered a "replica weapon". The specific line from your contract to be concerned about is:
15. (2) "You must not bring into the dwelling or Building anything which in the University’s reasonable opinion
is or may become dangerous, noxious, offensive, combustible, corrosive, inflammable, radioactive or
explosive including, (but not limited to), firearms, air rifles, pistols, cross-bows, or any other weapons
(including replicas or deactivated weapons), gas cylinders or oil burners."
 
Based on this, our official advice as a society is to follow your accommodation's contract.
 
Luckily, we have a locker that is provided by our Student's Union. Unfortunately, this has limited space. We sometimes allow members to store their equipment in the locker however this is typically limited to a maximum of 1 gun case and we do not guaratee that this will be a possiblity. It is at the discretion of our Quartermaster. As far as I am aware, this is not standard for University Airsoft Societies and some others do not have any space to store society equipment at all, let alone member's equipment.
 
There are people who decide to violate their accommodation T&C by storing their equipment in their accommodation room (including myself in my first year) though this is not our official position. For those that do, this is generally what is noted and the advice given:
- Typical room inspections at Cardiff's Residences do not include opening closets, drawers, looking under beds etc. When I was in halls, this never occured to anyone I know. I had a security camera in my room and when the inspections occurred so I saw what they did. They simply opened the door, took a note on the general condition and left. This isn't definitely what would happen now (there was a degree of covid worry still at this time) and doesn't necessarily reflect what happens at other Universities either. You should also receive 24 hours notice before any inspection.
- Your flatmates should not be able to access your room. To my knowledge, in all Cardiff Accomodations, your personal room will have a lock to which only you (and security) will have a key. Hard cases can usually be locked with a padlock to prevent easy access also.
- Don't bring your guns into the communal areas of your flat. Security are permitted to enter communal areas without notification. Other people may also see through windows and be alarmed.
- Don't show your flatmates your guns, especially if you don't know them well. They may not be comfortable with it or may report it. If you want to show them the sport, bring them along to a "Give it a Go" session ;).
- Store guns in gunbags/hardcases at all times. Don't make it obvious what is inside (don't put gun stickers on it). It is very unlikely that an inspection would involve opening your case.
To my knowledge, we have had no cases of anyone getting in trouble for storing airsoft equipment in University Accommodation since Covid.
Again, our official position is to advise against breaking your accomodation T&C. However, we aren't going to stop you and certainly aren't going to report you ourselves.
 
In terms of transporting around the city:
- Keep your gun in a case/bag at all times.
- Don't make it obvious what is inside. Don't put stickers with guns on it. Don't put military insignia on it.
- Don't wear full equipment while walking around. We have a policy of half camo maximum (so either camo trousers or top, not both), all other equipment must be carried in a bag (chest rig, helmet, .etc).
- If you're particularly concerned, Cardiff's Taxis and Uber are pretty cheap compared to the rest of the UK.
- We provide transport to most games so as long as you can get to the Student's Union, you can get to the games.
Again, we have had no issues since Covid with people transporting equipment. In fact occasionally we take public transport to gamedays (though we notify BTP beforehand).
 
Money saving tips:
- We sell BBs and equipment to members at reduced cost. I wont go into detail here as I am unsure of advertising rules on this site.
 
There aren't any particular laws in Wales you need to be concerned about regarding Airsoft.
 
Any other questions, shoot me a message on the Discord.
Looking forward to seeing you next year hopefully
Luckily, we also have not had any cases of this. I (and many other of our members) regularly did and do research regarding airsoft on the Eduroam network without any issue. If it were to occur, I imagine we'd be complaining pretty quickly.

I didn’t say that UKARA is the only valid airsoft defence - it’s the most common recognised defence, but other valid ones can and do exist.
(You may note that I also said ‘UKARA etc’)
 
JustCos certainly isn’t, and the ‘operators’ of JustCos also know that it isn’t.
 
 

As Colin has said - 99% chance of this being a no, and would get you into trouble.
 
Contact the local society for their advice
The norm is that it’s not allowed in halls
 
Societies will have access to storage, but it will vary between Universities.
 
I am aware that in the past Southampton University went through this for their members.
Resident members in halls were not permitted to keep RIFs, members in shared houses could and ‘key’ members of the society stored other members RIFs - but that meant that they became responsible for them and had issues when particular members weren’t attended an event.
 
The society had storage via the Student Union, but it was as caged areas in store rooms - and one cage would be shared between two societies.
 
Your specific society will be able to tell you what their arrangements are
 
 
For something to physically store them in, the best is a hard case & a lock or a padlock.
A non gun case is more anonymous for general transporting.
The circumstances of your transportation can also vary - your own car, a bus, walking down the street etc

As others have posted, it's probably going to be against the uni's t&cs to keep rifs in halls of residence. The society should be able to advise you on alternatives. 
 
I use a gun bag similar to this when using public transport to get to games.
https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/8fields-tactical-long-double-rifle-47-147cm-gun-case?pv=16035
 
When I first started I used to use a hard rifle case as it's more secure but I found it actually drew more attention from the public

Random room inspections can and do happen.  I have been in the slightly awkward position of having to run a disciplinary case against a student whose RIF was found in his wardrobe.

I am my faculty's Prevent officer, so I have to check up on students who have been accessing websites and content on university WiFi or via university PCs that could indicate that they are at risk of radicalisation or are potentially a risk.  Recently, a Chinese Year 3 direct entry student was flagged for accessing a number of airsoft sites.  I called him in, as I am required to, and asked him in particular about an airsoft site whose website he had repeatedly accessed.  He explained that he and his friends were looking for sites to play at; I asked him if he had played at that site and he said he had.  I asked him when and, when he told me, asked him which team he had been on.  When he told me, I mentioned that we might well have shot each other.  We then spent a great hour talking about airsoft.

The moral of that is that you should not look up airsoft related content using university PCs or WiFi, including Eduroam.

From their Residential Terms and Conditions:

"not bring into the Premises anything which in the University’s reasonable opinion is or may become dangerous, noxious offensive, combustible, corrosive, inflammable, radioactive or explosive including, but not limited to, firearms, air rifles, pistols, cross-bows, or any other weapons (including replicas or deactivated weapons), gas cylinders or oil burners."

The defences in legislation are:

 

museums
theatrical
film/TV production
historical re-enactment
in the service of the crown 
 
The legislation goes into further details on the requirements 
 
Airsoft skirmishing is an additional defence, not part of the core legislation 
 
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/37
 
Cosplay is not a defence, however ‘professional cosplay’ in certain circumstances can fall into theatrical 
After many years of wondering what JustCos actually provides I purchased JustCos membership to see the insurance policy (and still was not provided with the policy) after another forum member used JustCos as a route to buy a RIF - they had to provide a photo of them playing airsoft for the retailer to accept the sale (therefore the retailer ‘accepting’ JustCos doesn’t actually accept the ‘defence’)
(I was eventually refunded and my JustCos membership cancelled because I was ‘too stupid’ to understand what JustCos actually was 
 
UKARA etc are not specified defences, but are a route in which retailers can justifiably document a buyers defence.
Any retailer can accept whatever they like, one even had a tick box for buyers to state that they intended to play airsoft skirmishing 
Certain retailers are only paying lip service and just want the sales

The defences in legislation are:

 

museums
theatrical
film/TV production
historical re-enactment
in the service of the crown 
 
The legislation goes into further details on the requirements 
 
Airsoft skirmishing is an additional defence, not part of the core legislation 
 
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/38/section/37
 
Cosplay is not a defence, however ‘professional cosplay’ in certain circumstances can fall into theatrical 
After many years of wondering what JustCos actually provides I purchased JustCos membership to see the insurance policy (and still was not provided with the policy) after another forum member used JustCos as a route to buy a RIF - they had to provide a photo of them playing airsoft for the retailer to accept the sale (therefore the retailer ‘accepting’ JustCos doesn’t actually accept the ‘defence’)
(I was eventually refunded and my JustCos membership cancelled because I was ‘too stupid’ to understand what JustCos actually was 
 
UKARA etc are not specified defences, but are a route in which retailers can justifiably document a buyers defence.
Any retailer can accept whatever they like, one even had a tick box for buyers to state that they intended to play airsoft skirmishing 
Certain retailers are only paying lip service and just want the sales

Not sure why you’re saying some are bogus defences. I can’t see Firesupport doing anything that was bogus, don’t they run the UKARA system for a start. 

Why would that be?  Starting with the same energy at the muzzle, and assuming that the hop can impart enough spin[*], a heavier BBs will always retain more energy than a lighter one and go further.
 
It'll take longer to reach a closer target, but that's hardly an issue for a sniper with a 30m MED - which is about the point where it will overtake a lighter BB.
 
[*] If your gun can't fully hop it that's a different issue, but it's an issue with the hop unit or bucking and nub, not the BB.

"Take cover behind the tank"
 
"Ackshullay, it's not a tank, it's a self propelled artillery - a tank has" *gets shot*

Whatever you do avoid the GSR replicas sold by airsoftworld. They're absolute crap and not worth 60 pence, let alone £60

That explains alot, this is where I have played the times I have been. As in the hay bales were the limit...
 

DEVGRU, AKA SEAL team 6 

 
Mask or remove moving parts, lightly spray in layers, and make some rough patterns.  Avoid too fancy factory type professional camouflage prints and go for a field expedient look …
 
 
Like this ….
 
https://youtu.be/wAeSKtluE-c?si=YozfS8ntxNmoPQlx

DEVGRU, AKA SEAL team 6 

 
Mask or remove moving parts, lightly spray in layers, and make some rough patterns.  Avoid too fancy factory type professional camouflage prints and go for a field expedient look …
 
 
Like this ….
 
https://youtu.be/wAeSKtluE-c?si=YozfS8ntxNmoPQlx

DEVGRU, AKA SEAL team 6 

 
Mask or remove moving parts, lightly spray in layers, and make some rough patterns.  Avoid too fancy factory type professional camouflage prints and go for a field expedient look …
 
 
Like this ….
 
https://youtu.be/wAeSKtluE-c?si=YozfS8ntxNmoPQlx

I swear I started a similar thread a while ago with the intent to post all maps I find.....
 
But yeah, it doesn't need to be a work of art or even anything beyond simple line drawing with basic features and names. 
First time (awhile ago now) at a new site (ambush Botley) and they start talking about locations "yeah, but where is it?" - oh just follow someone....
 
By lunch we had a conversation with owner about it, we had done a very rough sketch of the rest of the afternoon by the end of the day, someone had found a dnd map maker and boom, a usable map was born.
 
The Gaol do theirs very well, with the "long game" locations, timings and scoring options all listed. Shout out to Justin as it hits 10Years in May.
 
CS used to hand a copy to all site first timers. 
Many smaller sites might not need to bother, Red1 chiselhurst for example is compact enough to have have its areas clear and easy to navigate. 
 
As is mentioned already,  it doesn't need much. 
For me, the effort of getting a map either on website or handed on game day speaks volumes about the sites level of welcome to new to site visitors. Excluding of course the smaller sites that don't need to...
 

Please don't start throwing names out. No its not this person you speak of, don't know them. 
 
I don't want this thread to turn into a witch hunt. It was a genuine question about whats going on. 

I sacrificed a great photo sequence when I spotted a dead man walking in a tournament
 
There was only one exit out of the field, behind him.  Tournament rules alone specify taking the shortest route to the side then out so he was clearly in breach if he had been eliminated 
 
His gun failed, so he kept ducked down trying to fix it and the opposing team forgot about him.
He stood up, stepped to the edge* ( still in the boundary ) walked towards the oppositions rear and then across to the central scoring bunker for the buzzer
 
* note that this site was very old in the tournament world with the netting & posts at exactly regulation size, so there was no out of bounds on the edge -  he could have hugged the net line remaining in game being more deceptive, but clearly and openly walked on
One of the referees did challenge him for going the wrong way, and he quietly said that he’s not out.
I desperately wanted the photos but I would have drawn attention so waited until he sped across for the buzzer
 
There were complaints, but it was a valid winning move - to official rules