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All I can say with regards to ‘prevent’, schools or social workers is that they seem to have a wonderful ability to pick on completely innocent parties meanwhile the actual genuine cases of concern slip by and often go on to commit crimes. When their incompetence comes to the surface we’re met with all the usual hand wringing and excuse making and a limp, wet boiler plate response telling us how thyre ‘committed’ to the highest standards. This sounds like business as usual, innocent parties being incorrectly hounded.

Sorry to hear what your going through, as has been said, yes it's definitely a case of overreacting, but certain points, such as your sons adhd, will trigger red flags in the system due to previous cases of exploitation of vulnerable people, even if your sons background criteria doesn't fit those previous high profile cases. What I will say is social services are probably one of the most lazy & corrupt organisations in existence, & I would hate it if the fact that you are trying to encourage your son to pursue his interests in a controlled safe manner, is likely to be used against you. To that end, you need to audio record all meetings with them, preferably with some sort of concealed professional device, rather than relying on a phone which can go wrong or be disrupted. You'll need to do this covertly, SS will never voluntarily agree to recorded meetings, & will immediately leave meetings should this be discovered. Unfortunately their reports tend to be written in a piecemeal fashion, in order to discredit or malign those they're working against, so you need to protect yourself as a family with solid proof of what's said during these meetings, which you'll need to save & possibly document for future reference. If you fail to do this, at the very least you'll find your son railroaded on to the "at risk register", or worse.

One small part of my role is as the safeguarding officer for my organisation; I regularly receive referrals concerning individuals about whom concerns have been raised. I am surprised that this has gone straight to Prevent without an initial lower level intervention, unless they have other concerns. Based on what you have written, the school appear to have over reacted. Make an appointment with the Head and calmly explain the situation to them, showing them that shooting with toy guns in a safe and controlled environment is perfectly legitimate and that you are following professional advice by indulging his equally legitimate interests in history, war and politics while keeping a careful eye on what he is accessing and on his views. Whatever you do, do not show anger or frustration with them.

So I went in to buy a thigh strap for the deadly customs holster. Came out with only the strap... followed by this

I would not recommend this approach. The school have taken this step because they feel the need to do so; it is probably an over reaction but the best response would be to engage with them in a calm and measured manner.

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Another KS-1 ??

Bought the Ares AR308M from HPA airsoft the other day. Saw it was on sale for 330ish. Bit of a bargain!

Noise and keeping BBs within the boundaries of your property aren't the only concerns. The jaded git that I've become would think some busybody neighbours may get the wrong idea if they see you in your garden with what appears to be a real gun then report you without speaking to you first to clear any misunderstanding because of this culture of fear the media has driven the UK into.

So turning up to the school and showing off the gun...... Isn't the best idea? Noted ?

I want Angela Scanlon to deliver my next RIF purchases on a silver platter with her Irish charm. I want Sydney Sweeney to do my chrono tests and only mine at each skirmish I go to. In all seriousness, if you won't disclose who you work for or what you're getting out of what half-reads like a Chat GPT response, I don't think you should be surprised if there are sarcastic or suspicious replies. What is a "large airsoft company"? A site manager? A retailer? A distributor/reseller? What do you get out of this?

you have a speed loader for your magazines, I have a speed loader for each magazine. We are not the same. Little box holds adapters for MWS, PTW, P90 and a cable to go from deans to Tamiya depending on which battery you have.

@luke303, you need to make written section 51 requests under the foi act, to the school & all agencies involved. Want to see what positions have the most vacancies, go on to pretty much any county council jobs pages, social worker positions far outnumber any other job. And unfortunately it's usually because the very few good social workers don't last long, having left because of bullying & deep rooted ineptitude amongst their so called colleagues, who will happily close ranks & lie, while failing to serve societies most vulnerable who need help the most.

Thanks to everyone for all your advice. As a family we are absolutely devastated and feel his disability has been used as weapon against him. Our garden is suitable for using the gun but we will probably knock it on the head for the foreseeable. We have asked the school very nicely for a breakdown of their concerns and to see the referral to both authorities but as yet that hasn't been forthcoming. We have actually taken him out of the school citing our own safeguarding concerns as they were documenting everything he said on history and politics. Apparently him saying he doesn't like communism is an extremist view!! I definitely will look at a listening device as I really don't trust them. My son already felt that everyone at school thought he was odd so adding this is the saddest part of it for us.

I've not much to add here but best of luck with dealing with this situation! I imagine there's lots of us on here looking forward to the day we can introduce our kids to the hobby and none of us would want to have a chat with social services as a result. It feels like an overreaction in the schools part to me. Unfortunately some people just don't like guns and they evoke in them an emotional response in such people. Best of luck mate, I hope you get it sorted ?

10 years ago I would have said GHK Now I say VFC definitely

yes, this all my custom. custom gbb workshop S&W M&P9 vfc gbb cerakote

That's fair enough. I'm letting my own biases from dealing with the education industry leak in, so I apologise for that. Definitely speak to them in a calm and professional matter first, as Colin Suggests.

Mine arrived, shellac the grips, possibly the most beautiful Airsoft revolver out there, the cartridges look so realistic, ordered a 2” now

Out in HK now, more models and sizes on the way. Adjustable hop, gorgeous wood grips. I have a 3.5" on the way. Site legal, beautiful shells (although you can use wingun 715s). Initial reports suggest it's much more consistent and accurate than the wingun models. We'll see. BBs held in rubber hollow point end. No trades. I suspect the wingun 715 speedloaders will work.

What a sad world ?

I would inform the neighbours that you are shooting in your garden, but apart from that your doing nothing wrong so as I said just be sensible.

I currently own two GHK’s An M4 and an SG 553 The M4 runs flawlessly, but…… Its a V1, so probably made back when they were good, unfortunately I’ve never even fired a VFC to be able to compare But watching reviews on YT , if you look for them, you will find faults in both

I have so many thoughts on this (@Tackle above mentioned some of them), but in short you have done nothing wrong and the school has wildly overreacted and it's awful that they're doing this; I'd love to say you shouldn't need to protect yourself and your son from the SS (phrasing done intentionally), but honestly... better safe than sorry with those corrupt bureaucrats. I was interested in all the same things at his age and my parents taught me to shoot with air rifles when I was 9; I had my own air rifle and the ammo both stored in my room because I was taught well and my parents trusted me to not do anything stupid. I was then in army cadets and I loved all the shooting and fieldcraft stuff there, then I started airsoft at about the same time. I was never reported to Prevent for being radicalised. Surely the first step would be to ascertain whether there actually is grounds for a report by talking to the parents about it and getting some context and/or seeing if the parents themselves are loonies (which it very much doesn't sound like you are!). It feels like in a five step process they've just decided to skip out steps 2, 3 and 4 and go straight to 5.

Tell you missus that your RIF cost $1 billion Austin Powers style and she might laugh without asking any further questions.

Ahoy and welcome. The EP-01 will be fine, they're not going to break from airsoft energy impacts, although I'd agree that pretty much anything from the Bollé range can be trusted. You may have issues with fogging though, it's the bane of many an airsofter. I like dual-pane lenses like the Pyramex I-Force. You'll have to find out for yourself if you're a fogging victim. If you are, having a pair of mesh goggles in your bag can save your day. Lower face, a mix of mesh and fabric gives you a good balance of protection and cheek-weldability. The original brand of these is OneTigris, but there are cheaper equivalents now.

Hi and welcome. Never scrimp on eye protection. Those are a cheap knock off of Bolle x1000 goggles. Personally I'd suggest you spend a bit more and buy the Bolle ones.

My 3.5" is on its way! I love taking a revolver out for a bit of style on the field. The Rhinos are eminently skirmishable - much more consistent than the DW 715. I get a lot of fun from both - but at over a kilo each and chunky I'd like something smaller on the belt as a tertiary. You really cannot beat the look/feel of a shell loader - plus the style of getting kills is something else. The different design of the shells & chamber looks like it'll be a much more efficient seal - the wingun models suffer with consistency thanks to this - the DW being the worst. They're fine for sub 20m but anything over this is a bit hit & miss. At the moment I'd say the H8R gen 2 is probably the best revolver. You're not getting hi-capa/1911 range but its good out to 30m, maybe a little more. Ares have confirmed that these 2 models will hit the UK in April, with the combat (assuming these are the ones with rails) & hopefully alternative grips in May. If they've sorted out the consistency & have a decent hop (I've had it confirmed its a TDC style one) then its a game changer. There's a youtube video of a chap who had an early copy & he has found its superior to the wingun platform in everyway. Currently investigating getting the S&W trades laser engraved on mine. The HK retailers that offer this at the moment are very reasonably priced but their shipping to the UK is extortionate, so I'll get that done here.

I'm sure they've got a job for us ?

If the MoD are reading here goes Improve pay, make sure buildings on bases are suitable and fit for human habitation and stop putting soldiers in court for doing their jobs. Can I have my £120,000 now as these would improve recruitment and retention levels far better than letting joe public fondle a couple of toy guns

If they recuit players that don't call their hits we'll have an amazing advantage when enemy bullets just bounce off them! ??