Skara Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2556258217787401&id=558210260925550 Long story short, our Austrian friend decided to copy Templars Gear's designs and produce them in China. TG is a polish milspec gear manufacturer, they make high quality stuff at affordable prices and, most importantly, their stuff is actually made in Poland. Who would have thought lmao.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted October 30, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 30, 2019 that feels like a surprisingly muted response for a company being ripped off all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted October 30, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: that feels like a surprisingly muted response for a company being ripped off all things considered. That'll be because they're an actual professional outfit that understand that losing your shit in public never ends well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 Honestly, it's a shame that good companies like TG end up being ripped of by idiots just like that. It appears gayritsch also ripped off SCGhillie, copying their design and moving the production to a much cheaper Chinese factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 His manufacture maybe outside the law in China but surely he wouldn't be able to get away with selling obvious clones in Europe if Templars Gear kicked off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: His manufacture maybe outside the law in China but surely he wouldn't be able to get away with selling obvious clones in Europe if Templars Gear kicked off? Thing is, on his website the belt is branded YTTK or something. But the design is clearly copied from Templars. I mean, designs are copied every day, just check the repros of the d3cr or the spiritus micro rig. My guess is that TG got complaints about the belt or they just stopped receiving orders.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted October 30, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 30, 2019 Well that's just yet another reason why I won't buy a single item he's associated with. What a piece of shit, schmoozing up to TG to get what he wants, then stabbing them in the back. Not the first Austrian in history that got to big for his boots lol. What goes around etc😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted October 30, 2019 Head Moderator Share Posted October 30, 2019 The chinaman making the cloned items will not care about patents or copyrights. The customer will get an inferior product. A good enough reason not to buy any Noritsch products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 30, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 30, 2019 And bear in mind the old Chinese bait-and-switch. You order a small sample batch and they send you something pretty good. Then you put the big order in and they cheap out on the materials and QC, plus you get the rejects from batch 1 if they've still got them lying around. It's not that they can't make decent stuff, they very definitely can. But only if they think that it'll result in another order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 hours ago, Jedi_Master said: The chinaman making the cloned items will not care about patents or copyrights. The customer will get an inferior product. A good enough reason not to buy any Noritsch products. Unfortunately the new player doesn't know that. He sees a €80 belt and thinks it's a genuine Templars one, only to be disappointed when it gets delivered and he realizes it's just another Chinese clone. It's not about the manufacturer, it's about the celebrity effectively tricking people into paying a premium price for a non premium item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromulon1994 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I don't particularly like him or what he has done, but what's the difference between what he has done and what JG/cyma do with their China clones of marui guns and designs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said: I don't particularly like him or what he has done, but what's the difference between what he has done and what JG/cyma do with their China clones of marui guns and designs? People dont like Youtube people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said: I don't particularly like him or what he has done, but what's the difference between what he has done and what JG/cyma do with their China clones of marui guns and designs? We're talking about retailers, not manufacturers. That's the difference. In Nov's case it's a matter of building up a clientele while cooperating with X brand, only to rip off said brand and move to China. I only wish he did it to a giant multinational that can afford to bury him. But unfortunately he picked small companies. I don't care what china man has to deal with, he gets the design and cuts/sews according to said design and I don't blame him, I blame the cunt who got hold of said design. Dem Austrians seem to have it in their DNA. Just now, SgtTalbert said: People dont like Youtube people Is there anyone out there who really enjoys his content? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cromulon1994 said: I don't particularly like him or what he has done, but what's the difference between what he has done and what JG/cyma do with their China clones of marui guns and designs? The main difference that I see is that JC/CYMA do it ,but don't then continue to charge TM prices. There is a tacit acknowledgement that it's a knock off and therefore is priced accordingly. Nov has priced his knock offs the same as the originals, which I think is a key point to take issue with. It's a true example of YouTube tax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted October 31, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2019 This is a screenshot from a - now hastily removed - video Nov uploaded to YouTube. Apparently showing him in China, showcasing the fact they've gone out there to design his own line of AEGs. Apart from looking like he's announcing his new Austrian rap gang, the company in the background is clearly visible. Fuxing. Who own JG works. https://airsoft.fandom.com/wiki/Jing_Gong The next line of AEGs won't be as premium as he'll make out they are. They'll be decent perhaps, but he'll make them sound like the second coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, L3wisD said: This is a screenshot from a - now hastily removed - video Nov uploaded to YouTube. Apparently showing him in China, showcasing the fact they've gone out there to design his own line of AEGs. Apart from looking like he's announcing his new Austrian rap gang, the company in the background is clearly visible. Fuxing. Who own JG works. https://airsoft.fandom.com/wiki/Jing_Gong The next line of AEGs won't be as premium as he'll make out they are. They'll be decent perhaps, but he'll make them sound like the second coming. Thanks for sharing, haven't had the chance to watch it before it got removed. I already imagine all the fan boys jerking each other off because their idol is planning another money grab xD What will it be called? SSM-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 31, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 31, 2019 58 minutes ago, L3wisD said: he'll make them sound like the second coming Comes with a motor! With magnets! And a piston! With an air seal[*]! Fully operational operator trigger! Can be both pulled and released! [*] Air seal not guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators djben9 Posted October 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, Skara said: Thanks for sharing, haven't had the chance to watch it before it got removed. I already imagine all the fan boys jerking each other off because their idol is planning another money grab xD What will it be called? SSM-4? just the N4.... i'll get my coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted October 31, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Comes with a motor! With magnets! And a piston! With an air seal[*]! Fully operational operator trigger! Can be both pulled and released! [*] Air seal not guaranteed. you can spin anything: "it's full metal for that realistic heavy weight feel" "it's full polymer for light fast target acquisition" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 46 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Comes with a motor! With magnets! And a piston! With an air seal[*]! Fully operational operator trigger! Can be both pulled and released! [*] Air seal not guaranteed. Sorry you have been pulling the trigger wrong while not using the correct bbs and you didn't use the novy+turbo lipos so your warranty is void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted October 31, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Musica said: Sorry you have been pulling the trigger wrong while not using the correct bbs and you didn't use the novy+turbo lipos so your warranty is void. don't forget the magazines, only Novritsch branded magazines can keep up with the cheater shredding rate of fire this gun puts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: don't forget the magazines, only Novritsch branded magazines can keep up with the cheater shredding rate of fire this gun puts out. I hear his bbs are louder and every time you hit someone it updates the marshals nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 What have I done..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted November 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted November 1, 2019 I'd like to see him go in to full partnership with Nuprol........ That'd slow his roll 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted November 1, 2019 Supporters Share Posted November 1, 2019 In the unlikely event he ever came out with something that was genuinely unique and new I'd love to see it get ripped off right away. Sadly the first thing won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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