THE FNG

Unfortunately, I have thrown the towel in Whilst trying to further diagnose, the connectors to the stock have gone and another wire has split. It has been dropped off for a techie to fix at JD Airsoft. Feel like an idiot cus I couldn't fix my own gun

You may have found the issue!!! On full auto, the air nozzle does come back! So cut off lever is my issue then?

Thanks for the replies guys. I've tried moving the tappet plate in the gearbox it moves fine with both the spring installed and absent. I have put back together and cleaned it and tried it again. It is still having issues. What I have noticed is that the air nozzle is staying back after pulling the trigger the first time. It is stuck back; there is no play and you cant push it backwards with a finger, nor can you pull it forward. I have shone a torch in the geabox without disturbing it and can see that the tappet plate is in fact not beinding; it is in its rails and in line perfectly. This leads me to believe that the tappet plate is being blocked so that it won't return? When I fire it, the nozzle stays back. Then, when the trigger is pulled again, the nozzle shoots forward and then returns back.

Right; done some work since the last post. Having recharged the battery completely and tried one or two other batteries, I have concluded that the issue was the battery connectors in the stock. However, having had it firing again, I have encountered another(!) problem. The issue now is that the tappet plate is bending upwards when the gun is fired. This is stopping the air nozzle from shooting back forward. I have tried it with a delayer chip installed and without. Both give the same results. Does anyone know a remedy to this?

Tried that but they are both the same....getting really confused here as to what the problem is?!

Right, I've tried the 16:1 and I'm having the same issue... The piston is staying at the rear of the gearbox. It is being held there by the last few teeth of the gear. Never had this issue before. I've also tried it with the original gears but the same is happening! Only thing different is the piston. The cylinder head is the stock head. What is the best way to remedy this? I've read a few threads online that say its poor motors...surely its not this as its got a brand new lonex a2 in there!

Rather than starting a new topic, I'm bumping this one. I'm going to turn this thread into my SCAR project. I've stumbled on another issue now and the whole revamp of the scar is just annoying me. I tried to add a new piston to the scar when the stock piston stripped due to premature engagement but when I pulled the trigger it only cycled partly. When opening the gearbox, I found that the piston had been pulled back but not released....the spring was still compressed back and the piston was stuck on the last tooth of the gear (13:1 gear set). I have since tried a 16:1 gear set in the gearbox but of course, as I tried to test it, the wires to the motor snapped and now I have to sort that out...fuming! In theory, should the gearbox be able to cycle with the 16:1 set in? I probably should mention that I have also taken the bearing off the spring guide to help allow the cycle.

Sorry, I didn't mean that it is fictional and in COD only. My point was that any gun that features on COD tends to be the 'BEST GUN EVAR' to codsofters. Perhaps I should have added a 'real-steel' hsitory section to the review to add some background? I am aware that it is a real thing

I don't do COD...it annoys me. Well, the outbursts from younger fans who think they know everything about guns and the military are what annoys me; they story modes are pretty good to be fair. So when the Honey Badger made its way onto the airsoft scene, all I could think was 'oh great, a new gun for codsofters. AM TEH BESTEST GNU EVAR FOR DA PRO OPER8OR.' And it is made by ares....not exactly known for great quality guns. Gave it no thought and assumed it would be pants. Went with my best mate to JD Airsoft in Cannock, Staffordshire for a supply run in Late November and to get a few parts and we did the obligatory look around the shop at all of the guns. I picked up the honey badger to take the mick out of cod fans thinking I was being all clever and anti-codsofter and I have to say it made a lasting impression on me. Made one or two other visits in between then and yesterday. Everytime, I picked it up and thought 'I hate myself for this, but I love it'. TD;DR - Honey badger is nice and I'm a presumptious dickhead So, the Ares Honey badger. I caved in and got one as my scar is down due to piston stripping issues and I am short of fixing time due to my current work schedule. This review is a preliminary review and will not feature a performance review until I have skirmished it in 2or 3 weeks time. It will be split up into the following sections: Aesthetics/Quality Ergonomics/Manouverability Customisation (Internal/external) Overall (Pre-skirmish rating) So, aestehtics. Have to say, it looks great. Sleek, rounded, smooth and well finished; it certainly looks the past of being a modern-tech weapon. The upper and lower receivers are made from high density polymer/plastic, however it is heavy and very sturdy; among the sturdiest of all the guns I've seen/handled. It is well finished and smooth. The handguard is cnc'd aliminium (I beleive) and is also well finished. The combination of the two make the gun sturdy and nice to look at. The actual gun is great; only issue with it is the supplied iron sights. Having owned several rifles, all of which came with adjustable sights, I have gotten used to good iron sights to rely on when optics fail. The honey badger's were taken straight off. They are awful. They will probably do the job but they are not adjustable, are cheap plastic and just look sub-par compared to the rest of the gun. First I did was add my Eotech and a pair of canted iron sights as the stock ones aren't worth having on there. Not a big issue, but for a £250 gun before battery and upgrades etc, I expected a little better. Ergonomics/Manouverability This section will see the honey badger compared to a UMP/SCAR CQC/MP9/P90, as these are guns that I have used, which are used in CQB which is the honey badgers primary role as it attempts to bridge the gap between assault rifle and smg. It's controls are only for right handed users. No fire selectors on the right hand side for lefties and only 1 mag release which is on the right hand side. It does, however, feel brilliant when shouldered. Some bigger players may struggle as the stock only comes so far out. I'm 5'8ish so it fits me perfectly. It is lightweight but has enough weight to it to not feel like a toy. In fact, it is very heavy for what it is made from. Its weight is great; can be held for long periods of time when setup right (setup will have a factor in customisation section). It moves very well. Compact size will make corners a breeze. Customisation Version 2 gearbox installed inside, so there are the usual internal gearbox parts available. Comes with an in built suppressor and a tightbore; no need to upgrade there but there are options if you want to change them. One of the best features of the gun is the quick spring change system. When changing a spring in the average aeg, you have to take the gearbox apart; which requires disassembley of the gun and gearbox, plus reassembley. With this gun, you take the stock off, and the then unscrew the spring guide from the rear of the gearbox. Done. 1 Minute max. Really makes it spring changes easy. There is plenty of rail space. The ameoba style handguard allows placement of its rails to be changed. It comes with a spare small and spare medium rail. Customisation is endless due to this. It really makes it easy to make a system that you can comfortably use. It looks great with no attatchments other than an optic, however first thing I did was add Eotech, torch, laser and an EGLM grenade launcher. I don't intend to use it but it fits perfectly and damn it looks badass! Overall (Pre-Skirmish rating) Having spent a lot of time looking over the gun, I have to say I love it. Great look and feel, smaller size, great manouverability and a very snapper trigger. Have to say, I cannot wait to skirmish this gun. Original fps was 280. After adding a madbull m100, it how hits 328 consistently with a max of 330 and minimum of 324 after around 25 shots through an xcortech chrono. One issue for some is battery space. I bought an 11.1v peq battery from JD airsoft which fits perfectly. The issue is the length of the battery space rather than width. Longer lipos wont fit and most if not all nimhs wont fit. I'd give it a prelimary rating of 8/10, losing marks for battery space, poor stock iron sights and plastic rails. To summarise, if you want something that looks incredible and unique, has a great r.o.f, very quick spring change system and is both light and sturdy, then this is a contender.

I had a classic army ump as my first ever aeg. The Classic Army version is a clone of the g&g version. Without doubt, one of the best guns I've owned and a great first gun. Not great for future upgrades as you have no aftermarket hop units and only 205mm or so barrel length to play with. However, when it was set up properly, it was brilliant. If you are happy spending the extra on the G&G model, then go for it!

All airsoft rails and real steel rails are 20mm in width. Pretty much any sight/scope/grip etc will fit on the rails you have.

In theory, m110 wil take you over 350. A good bet would be an m100 which tend to give around 320 - 340 fps depending on barrel length and make of spring. A madbull m100, which is a good make, gave me 345 fps in my scar with a tightbore, 340 without. Hope this helps

Having owned my VFC Scar-L for nearly a year now and having upgraded the internals recently, I decided to make a review of what has been my favourite gun that I have owned to date. After buying my Scar from AF-UK member Qlimax at the start of the year, I have used the Scar at many sites over the midlands: First and Only - Anzio Camp First and Only - Blackburn CQB Squad Assault - Burslem CQB Ace Airsoft - Wolverhampton Tac House Spartan - Chesterfield Frontier - Penkridge Quite a wide variety of gameplay experiences at these sites; Tight cqb to spacial woodland. The Scar has remained as my weapon of choice throughout the year......and it spent a lot of this time underperforming due to a hop up issue that I have rectified over the last few days! More of that later though! This review will be split up into the following parts: Aesthetics and Features Ergonomics Customisation Out-of-the-box Internals Performance Manouverability and Dexterity Myths of this gun Issues I have experienced Overall Rating and Personal rating AESTHETICS and FEATURES Firstly....this gun looks incredible. Whether it is straight out of the box or is covered in attatchments, this gun looks great. Scars are somewhat 'love them or hate them' but the VFC Scar has one of the best finishes and feels to it out of all of the guns I've handled. The Marui version is the only one that is one par with VFC but I can't comment on that as I've never handled one. VFC's Scar has a full metal upper and polymer lower, like the real-steel. The metal upper feels great and the top rail is so sharp that it can actually cut your fingers on the corners! The VFC Scar somes with real-steel trades on the upper (Mine didn't as it was an American Import where VFC lost the rights to put the trades on...or something like that...).These look great and add that authentic feel to the rifle. The gun has a working bolt catch system. Pulling the bolt back gives access to the hop adjustment which is in the form of an m4 style wheel. Releasing the bolt catch slams the bolt forward with a satisfying metal clack. I have literally pulled the bolt back mid-game just to amuse myself! The hop can be a bit fiddly if you have gloves on....but in the gas block is a hop adjustment tool that you can pull out mid game and adjust with ease. One of the pioneering parts of the VFC version of the scar that sets it apart from its competition is the stock. The wiring is hidden withing the stock and so it doesn't have the issue of trapped wires when folding and unfolding the stock away. Needless to say, the VFC Scar is one of the nicest guns that I've seen in terms of finish and material. I may be somewhat biased towards them but you can't ignore the build quality and impressive details and finish given to this gun. Without trying to be biased, I give it a solid 10/10! ERGONOMICS The Scar is a highly versatile gun and easily fits the user. It has a telescopic, 6 point stock that slides in and out to meet the reach and comfort of its user. It also features a rising cheek rest to help levelling your head for the use of optics and irons sights. I am 5'9, not the tallest of people and it fts me perfectly. I have lent it to a fellow team member who is 6'3 and of a large build, who has also used it comfortably. Another team member, 6'2 and very slim, has used it and commented on its comort factor and manouverability. The gun is also completely ambidexterous; it has a fire selector on both sides and the bolt can be moved onto either side. Mag release is on both sides too. For sheer ease of use and operability, I give this gun a 10/10; again, trying not to be biased, but it is very comfortable and easy to manipulate. CUSTOMISATION A big factor to some and one that doesn't neccessarily affect performance; customisation. The Scar is incredibly customisable. Externally, there are so many options! There is more rail space that you need! I have a c-more reflex sight, strobe torch, laser and EGLM Grenade Launcher on my setup....and there is still room for more! There is more rail space on some M4's but it isn't exactly something to take away from the Scar. Externally, it has to be another 10/10.....starting to sound really biased....BUT WAIT! Internally isn't the same. Internally, there is one flaw in the Scar's design....a flaw that has seen me use my gun for 10 months without is reaching its highest potential....the Hop Unit. The last game that I was at saw my Scar start to put out poor ranges of 40m MAX with a huge drop in the bb. When adding more hop, there was no difference until the wheel was on full, at which point the hop unit would jam and nothing would fire out. Te hop unit had a small crack in it since it was bought and over the months the crack had gotten worse to the point of which, at my last game day, the unit lost the part that holds onto the barrel. The internal structure of the gun was still holding it into place, but the air seal was ruined. My idiot self had decided to put my montly budget to other parts and other airsoft related projects rather than fixing what is possibly one of the most important parts to an airsoft gun... The hop unit is proprietary in the VFC Scar with no aftermarket parts availble other than a replacement VFC hop chamber. I fitted one in today and I was astonished at how good the range was. For 10 months, my effective range was about 50 metres. With the new chamber, I have seen it hit out at 90m...competing with my upgraded sniper rifle! This is with the VFC stock rubber. Unfortunately, most hop rubbers wont fit in the VFC chamber as it is so tight. I've tried g&g green, madbull shark blue, marui black and lonex clear and none have fit. The VFC rubber is slightly thinner than the others and is the only one that have succesfully added to date. The rest of the internals are like any other rifle. Custom barrels, gearbox parts, motors etc are all available. The gearbox is easy top open...despite being a faf when taking the fire selectors off with the smallest allen key ever required....had to spend £12 to get one out of a set from B&Q! Gearbox parts are easy to install and as it is a standard v2 gearbox; parts are more than plentiful. I grade the Internal customisation as 8/10. Marks lost for lack of hop unit and hop rubber parts available. OUT-OF-THE-BOX INTERNALS Despite the hop unit being broke for 10 months, it has still kept up with aegs at the sites I have been to. Have to confess that I can't wait to use it with a new hop unit fitted. The gearbox internals are great but not the best. They aren't made of cheese like some gearbox parts, but they have been disriputed by some members of various forums for being a little sub-par. Upon opening the gearbox for the first time, I was amazed at how clean and pristine it looked. I've taken apart a load of gearboxes now and the VFC is the easiest and cleanest I have worked on by far. Only other one that has come close is the Classic Army UMP...but that one has a ridiculously fiddly AR latch...don't get me started! The spring change is the same as every other gearbox. Because mine was imported originally, it was firing hot at nearly 380 fps. A madbull m100 put out 348 fps so to play safe, I run an SHS m90 at 335 fps. Guarder m85 springs put out 280 fps. The gears themselves are self shimming. No personal preference on these but I know some don't like them as much. The stock motor is the weakest part of the internals. It just about does the job. I fitted a Lonex A2 over the last few days and the difference is quite astounding. R.O.F has increased as has trigger response and the whole feel of the firing expereince is just crisper. The barrel is a standard 285mm barrel (CQC model). It does the job but a madbull black python has made some difference in accuracy. Easy to fit. Not a lot to say really about the barrel. Overall, Internals get a 7/10. Stock motor being the main weakpoint. PERFORMANCE Right. For 10 months, my damaged hop has meant that the Scar has been my primary CQB weapon. When playing woodland, I have been among the players that have to get a bit closer before engaging. The range has been less than average with the damaged hop unit but it has still been usable. CQB performance hasn't really been affected. R.O.F with a 9.6v nimh and a m90 spring is a bit poor with the stock motor. I tend to use semi-auto only, but when full auto has been needed, it is a little bit disappointing when the guy next you has a fully upgraded Marui High cycle aug! I give this gun a 6/10...seems harsh but this is with a duff hop unit and no upgrades at all other than the barrel. Based on the upgrades that I have put in over the next few days, I am really excited to go to my next event as I am anticipating the rating to go up to 8/10 at least. MANOUVERABILITY AND DEXTERITY This is basically how easy the gun is to use. Without the EGLM, the Scar-l is very easy to move around. Even though I don't use it very often, the folding stock make taking corners a blast. With the stock out, corners are still easy. The gun sits well into the shoulder and is very easy to make quick movements with. It's not to heavy and can be thrown around between hands for weak handed shooting easily. With regards to dexterity, the gun is excellent at cqb and can hold its own in woodland. With the new hop unit fitted, I have already squashed any doubts that I had about woodland; especially its range. I give the VFC Scar a 7/10 pre-upgraded and a 9/10 with its upgrades as, even though I haven't skirmished it yet, it has already made me able to change my game style, allowing me to engage longer ranges. MYTHS: Internet rumours of the VFC Scar-L Internals made of cheese - Some pages, particlarly in 'Murica, state that VFC gears are rally bad. I wouldn't go as far as to say they are that bad. Sure, they aren't the best but they have been used for 10 months without any issue. Only reason I have changed them is because I lost one of the gear axles when popping the gearbox a week or two ago. Poor Motor - This is true. The stock motor, although functional and can be used by a casual player, is poor. Having put in a Lonex A2, the difference is incredible. It may not be fair to compare any stock gearbox to a Lonex A2 but the difference is staggering. ISSUES I HAVE EXPERIENCED I have detailed the hop unit issues previously. The other issue that I have had with this gun finding a stable fps. By this, I mean that, due to the tight hop up, the fps difference between springs varies. For example, a m100 spring, 100m/s should be around 328 fps. However, a madbull m100 in the Scar hit 351 fps in one instance. It averaged at 347 fps. An m90 spring, 90 m/s should be around 300. In the Scar, I hit 335fps consistently with a max of 338. It could be down to incorrect packaging, spring variances or the hop unit giving a ridiculous air seal. It's not a huge issue, but it could catch out some users who don't own a chronograph. OVERALL RATING AND PERSONAL RATING Based on all of the things above, I will give the gun 2 ratings for overall ratings. These will be a rating for the gun out of the box (considering a dammaged hop unit) and a rating for the gun with upgrades. Finally, a personal rating that is very much biased! Firstly, Overall without upgrades. I grade the gun 7/10 before upgrades. This is due to its great look, feel and customisability. As a cqb gun, it is excellent and can just about run in woodland. With upgrades, I rate this gun as a 9/10. With upgraded gears, motor, hop unit (stock, but new) and barrel, this gun is a behemoth. Great range, nice r.o.f, quick trigger and with an EGLM attacthed, this thing can really tear up the enemy team. Finally, personal rating....yea you guessed it - 10/10. This is simply because of the memories it has given me. It has turned a lot of heads, sparked a lot of conversations and been a really reliable rifle...and that stands quite a testament considering it has been used with a poor hop unit for 10 months and was ran without upgrades until now! Scars are marmite guns; love them or hate them. Even so, I would highly recommend thie VFC scar if you want a scar and have the time and money to add some upgrades. The pricetag didnt affect me as much as it was 2nd hand, however it is steep at £400 on some retailers pages. But, if you have the cash or can get one 2nd hand, this gun is great for the experienced player. Not recommended for beginners as it will need a few upgrades to turn it from an average performing but excellent looking gun into the complete package. Aesthetics and Features 10 Ergonomics 10 Customisation 10 and 8 Out-of-the-box Internals 7 Performance 6 and 9 Manouverability and Dexterity 7 and 9 Overall Rating 7 and 9 92/110

Hi all, thanks for all of the great advice. I ended up getting the lonex high torque motor as the vfc stock one is pretty shite. Installed and notiecd an immediate improvement to every aspect of the motor. Also got the 13:1 gear set but not added them in yet; went for these as the stock gears are also shite and needed replacing. Next step is to get a mosfet and lipo; never done a mosfet so I'l going to be learning up on them over the next week or so...nice little project on my xmas week off!!

TM M870 isnt a shell ejecter...it is a beast though! Mate of mine has one and it is lethal. Optio for 3 bbs per trigger pull or 6 bbs per trigger pull. Range is ridiculous too.

Same here. Used to run a flip to side with my EOTech and its been taken off and forgotten about....its just part of my wallhanger now :/

I have had instances where the motor isn't finishing its spin when letting off the trigger. This was my main concern. I wanted to do an overall revamp anyway as vfc gears aren't known for thier reliability and so I wanted to upgrade the one thing that I have always relied on; a quick, semi-auto trigger finger. Never had an issue with this on previous guns but the scar hasn't performed quite as well in this area.

I tend to power stroke my pistols so it isn't that much of an issue. It can be a bit of a drag doing a left handed slide release if you have to use your thumb but I've got my own little technique that seems to work!

I don't use lipo's....im old school and still run nimhs'. Just to clarify; I'm looking at trigger response however, here's my current setup: -Vapex 9.6v nimh -M90 spring (its an shs one so its probably closer to m100; puts out 335fps (0.2's) with a tightbore) -All stock internals (minus spring and barrel) -Stock Motor Would you guys think I'd need speed or torque. The only reason that I wanted torque was the trigger response. The R.O.F Doesn't really matter to me as I am cqb-only atm. I'm assuming I'd need high torque for this? Does high torque affect the time it takes to pull the trigger between shots in semi? I have been using semi and pulling the trigger too fast for the gearbox to handle a few times.

Hi all; The time has come for a gearbox upgrade for my VFC Scar-l. I had to replace a gear inthe scar as I lost the self-shimming piece when I dropped it in the garage...can't find the little shite anywhere. It sounds a bit off and its ready for a full revamp inside. I've never done a whole new gear/motor set before. As it stands, it is all vfc stock (self shimming). My question is: I am looking at higher torque rather than r.o.f as I'd rather have the snappy trigger response. What would be the best motor (has to be long shafte type) and gear set? What ratio, brand etc? Apologies for being so vague....I sort of get how it all works but I wanted to make sure as it's my pride and joy!! Thanks all, Andy