Update - after 2 Skirms the stiching on the velco is coming apart, easy to fix, hopefully the rest is solid.
I still like the gloves though, so will repair them.
Ironically I bought this pair from a UK seller, but given the price, I'm sure it was also a knockoff.
Haven't used the ones bought from China yet, black ones will get an outing at the Mall in a couple weeks.
Cheers
G