Legit tactic or...

[LMKipper]

I went to a filmsim/battlesim at the weekend and mostly had a good time but came up against a ‘tactic’ that I thought was a bit pants to be honest. However, I’m interested to know if I’m being overly sensitive.

 

I was defending an objective, which was in a room in a house. It’s very noisy – shouting, loads of grenades etc. Generally hard to hear what’s going on. Suspecting some OpFor in the neighbouring room, I popped an impact grenade around the doorframe. Pop – no kills. About 10 seconds later, an impact grenade comes back around the doorframe into my room. I hear a loud bang as the impact hits the deck (I’ve got ear pro in) and take the hit. Bloke charges in, fair play we’re all done.

 

He then loudly exclaims to his mates that he threw my own dead impact back into the room with me and starts laughing. I said ‘oh well I’m not dead then’ and knife kill him in return, and he says ‘no you are, you took the hit’ and it’s my own fault for not recognising the bang didn’t go off. I said this is stupid – for a start you shouldn’t touch other players pyro, but also next time it encourages people to not take grenade hits in case they were fake. He said he'd seen it on YouTube. I just took the hit and walked off, because I didn’t want any more aggro.

 

Thoughts? Is this a legit tactic and I should shut up, or is this completely pants?
 

[Skara]

two problems:

 

a) y'all should give up on the "grenade kills the whole room" or mercy/knife kills altogether.

b) whenever those rules are in play, there needs to be a ref/marshal INSIDE the room the pyro is thrown in, otherwise it's the wild west.

[Cannonfodder]

Imo lobbing something that's not a grenade is a legitimate tactic, however I do agree that he should've used something else rather than your grenade. Pretty much every cqb site I've been to has a rule that you don't pick up other people's grenades.

 

That being said from your post the guy does sound like he's a bit of a bellend

Edited 7 hours ago by Cannonfodder

[BigStew]

Picking up other peoples grenades big no no. Throwing a dummy or a spent non reusable pyro as distraction? perfectly acceptable. Never seen some one take a hit from a dead/dummy grenade but i have used them as distraction device to get through a door while people are trying to take cover. If you took the hit thats on you, but agreed the guy sounds like a bellend. 

Edited 7 hours ago by BigStew

[Adolf Hamster]

24 minutes ago, Cannonfodder said:

Imo lobbing something that's not a grenade is a legitimate tactic, however I do agree that he should've used something else rather than your grenade. Pretty much every cqb site I've been to has a rule that you don't pick up other people's grenades.

 

This, throwing a mars bar in and shouting frag out only to then blast folk as they scramble is a legit tactic.

 

But mucking with other peoples nades without their permission is not on.

[Tackle]

Agree, never touch anyone's kit, but spoofing people, especially with stuff that clearly doesn't look like a grenade, that's just a giggle😜.

Rubber chicken anyone 🐔

[LMKipper]

If he'd thrown a bit of old shit in the door, I'd have been less bothered and obviously not taken it. It was the fact it was an impact, and it made a decent bang when it just hit the floor that I assumed it had gone off - like it had a little 209 primer in or similar.

 

I think what also narked me more was that this was a battlesim/filsim/milsim-lite job and I expected better, but I appreciate this is on me. I know there's only so much realism you can cram into toy guns, but throwing a spent grenade at an actual enemy IRL would not result in them keeling over due to a misunderstanding 😂

Edited 6 hours ago by LMKipper

[Tackle]

17 minutes ago, LMKipper said:

If he'd thrown a bit of old shit in the door, I'd have been less bothered and obviously not taken it. It was the fact it was an impact, and it made a decent bang when it just hit the floor that I assumed it had gone off - like it had a little 209 primer in or similar.

 

I think what also narked me more was that this was a battlesim/filsim/milsim-lite job and I expected better, but I appreciate this is on me. I know there's only so much realism you can cram into toy guns, but throwing a spent grenade at an actual enemy IRL would not result in them keeling over due to a misunderstanding 😂

Yeah I was going to add, for a regular walk on day , no big deal, but for a dedicated milsim or similar, it should be taken more seriously.

[Galvatron]

Throwing a dummy is fair game but there are no circumstances during gameplay under which he should pick up IG/BFGs other than his own.

 

"I saw it on YouTube" is a dickless attempt for the OpFor to rationalise himself.

[Rogerborg]

4 hours ago, LMKipper said:

for a start you shouldn’t touch other players pyro

 

What did the marshals say when you told them about that?

[LMKipper]

There was a guy in the room playing the VIP (who was part of the organisation team) who saw the whole thing. He seemed entirely disinterested by it - in fact when I tried to bring him into the conversation, he remained resolute in his silence. I spoke to one of the proper marshals later, who agreed touching other pyro a no-no and was quick to point out he'd mentioned it in the brief but by this time I'd forgotten what the player who did it looked like. "I dunno mate, camo trousers with an M4..."

[hitmanNo2]

The site in question doesn't rhyme with mongmoor does it?

[Baser]

As above, part of our fields CQB briefing is “Do not pick up anyone else’s reusable grenades” leave them where they are or if they are a trip hazard move them to the side of the corridor or room, if I randomly find one I just tell the Marshall where it is when’s there’s a lull in the action. 
 

Distracting you in any other way is fair game, I’d be pleased he didn’t come through the door and shoot me to make sure. 
 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Baser
Grammar of a toddler

[Jez_Armstrong]

He threw your grenade back at you? 

 

I would have grabbed his pistol from his Holster and thrown it in a tree 

 

Fair game