Marco Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Unbelievable, I was browsing the forums and the classified section and the police came and asked me to leave the train. I showed them the phone and explained they were pellet guns. They checked my documents, asked questions and let me go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiercel Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted November 6, 2018 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2018 They must have seen what that Stormzombies kid was asking for his p09 and decided a robbery was taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 6, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Marco said: Unbelievable Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Where they the train Stasi? "Achtung! Your Dokuments! Schnell!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintrade Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 "Zo. Mizter Marco. Vot iz der meanink ov dis vebzite? Are yoo in honisty tellink uz, dat yoo are not in fact sikkink to do der terror?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share Posted November 6, 2018 It was really upsetting being asked to leave the train for questioning but at least they were polite. I’m used to Italian police, they first beat or shoot you then ask for documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 You must have one big-ass phone... How did they see what you were looking at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 I have a small iPhone 6. I wonder who was the stupid person that thought I could be a threat by looking at guns on my phone. Maybe racist a bit since I’m not British looking but Mediterranean and with a strong foreign accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 What did they arrest you for? As they're not allowed to say "we are arresting you on suspicion of looking at pictures on your phone" - as that in itself is not an offence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 They didn’t arrest me but they asked me to follow them and leave the train for questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Cam Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 See when I get Airsoft guns on my phone I just get asked if it's COD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted November 7, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2018 They'd have prob left you alone if you were watching porn like everybody else 😉. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Gepard Posted November 7, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tackle said: They'd have prob left you alone if you were watching porn like everybody else 😉. I keep AFUK and PornHub on two tabs so that I can quickly switch between the two. Much easier to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Were they Metropolitan police,British Transport police,plain clothed or the fashion police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Guess transport Police but not plain clothes one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisG Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Shoulda said no and asked them to sit with you if there was an issue. There was no grounds for even suspicion. Its not even a crime or reasonable doubt to even be going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Hmmmm. If they just asked and you weren't arrested, you didn't have to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 I assume if I had said no they would have escalated the procedures e.g arrest or stop and search. Can you actually say no to the police? I’m used to the Italian police they would have kicked the s##t out of me if I had not complied but the British Police (thank god) is more civilised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 21 minutes ago, Marco said: Can you actually say no to the police? Yes, although you should phrase it more in a question so as not to appear like you are being confrontational. Police can only search you if they have reasonable grounds to. And you have a legal right to know why they want to search you, or why they want to know your name etc. ta-da - https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thanks that’s good to know. marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 7, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 7, 2018 Mmm. In practice, a principled stand will very likely escalate and waste more of your time. That applies double to BTP, who can be a bit spicy. Getting I-know-my-rights over being asked why I've been viewing gun porn isn't the hill that I'd choose to die on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Mmm. In practice, a principled stand will very likely escalate and waste more of your time. That applies double to BTP, who can be a bit spicy. Getting I-know-my-rights over being asked why I've been viewing gun porn isn't the hill that I'd choose to die on. I suppose it depends on how you go about it. If I was asked to leave a train, and it was only me - which would then make me miss the train and delay my travel, I'd like to know what the reason is before I agreed, given that I was just lawfully going about my business.... I know the Police have a difficult job at times, but they should know better than to waste everyone's time, theirs included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendoKhan Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Marco said: I assume if I had said no they would have escalated the procedures e.g arrest or stop and search. Can you actually say no to the police? I’m used to the Italian police they would have kicked the s##t out of me if I had not complied but the British Police (thank god) is more civilised. You can say No, it is your right under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 to not say anything... Hence the first part of the caution " You DO NOT have to say ANYTHING". However it depends what did they stop you for, was it under PACE did they explain what powers they were using? To be safe and legal they MUST explain what powers they are using to stop you, question you or search you. Since the risk from Intl terrorism is severe in the UK at present : https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels Just remember that unlike some of the videos on youtube, if the officers have RGTS(Reasonable grounds to suspect) that you may have committed an offence, they are within the rights to arrest you. I would strongly advise you against looking at pictures of RIFs on public transport, especially in the present security environment. However being polite goes a long way and if you have done nothing wrong then just comply with the request of the officers and remember your rights under law: https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-to-stop-and-search-your-rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Shizbazki Posted November 8, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 8, 2018 @Marco I'll be honest, whilst looking at RIFs is a perfectly innocent thing to do and looking at RIFs on a train is again innocent. What you got to realise is that Johnny Public have been made so scared of anything gun like, gun shaped or even associated with guns that they jump to conclusions. Prime example, try reading a copy of Soldier of Fortune Magazine. Someone probably saw you looking at RIF sales and "assumed" that you were some kind of psychopathic gun crazed nut and called police on you. The police probably thought "urgh why is this MOP (member of public) telling me about something completely innocent? Hmph if i don't do anything about it though they'll complain and i'll get investigated for doing nothing". Hence hwy they probably walked over and spoke to you to look like they are doing something. In reality the officers were probably covering their own backs. Oh and lastly, glad to hear they were polite to you. And and top tip to anyone if you get pulled or stopped by police PASS THE ATTITUDE TEST! No matter if it's about RIFs, traffic stops, stop and searches etc. It has great bearing on how you will be dealt with and how quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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