Supporters Lozart Posted December 22, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 22, 2016 HOLY NECRO POST BATMAN!!! First off - it's not a licence (but there's plenty of others that'll be along to tell you that too). If you do a search on the forum here there's plenty of advice in the UK Law section about UKARA and who can and cannot have a RiF. Suffice to say though that you'll be using a two tone gun for a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted December 22, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 22, 2016 Also, from what I've read and seen 14 year olds tend to be quite annoying. Yeah but thats nothing to do with airsoft thats just how teenagers are in general. Problem is teenager behaviour seems to last until about 25 now. If you want to make yourself less annoying learning how to read a date would be a good start 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopRocket123 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I took my 11 yr old brother along to our first game with my Dad and he's just reached that age where he has to disobey everything. But you yell an order at him in the field and he'll follow it and is a surprisingly good shot. It helps that both his dad and myself have experience with real firearms so we've drilled in that whole respect for weapons. There were a couple of guys on our team that kept and eye out for him and stuff when me and my dad were out. It's just about how the other people on the field and how they treat you. Try to find people who do respect you for playing airsoft and stick with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumps Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 My son has been going since he was 12. He keeps his mouth shut, takes his hits & does what he's supposed to do when its needed. Over the two years he's been into Airsoft he's become a trusted and to a point respected player at our regular site. At first people pointed and giggled at him (He's very short for his age) but that snigger soon turned to respect when he used to pop out of nowhere and shoot them in their arses. Age has little to do with it, its the attitude that shows through. To DominicSchultz don't let your age be how you are judged, learn from the experienced players, take your hits & try your best. you cant go far wrong mate. Welcome to the hobby of madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperslucky Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Sammy, Give it time if you play as you say you do and regularly then the other members will include not Exclude you. Note to all young guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg147 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've no problem with kids generally, sometimes I'll even go out of my way to give them tips if I see then doing something wrong (the usual one being 'you need to move a bit closer, they're way out of range'). They only annoy me if they start trying to impress the older players, but seriously miscalculate what is considered impressive. Example being one time when I was trying to get some decent headcam footage for a game my non-airsoft friends were in, and half the great camera moments were ruined by a kid with an M249 shouting 'GET SOME! COME GET SOME!' over and over and over. And then a group of kids seriously overestimating how much military strategy is applicable to airsoft. Basically trying to sound like characters from a war film/game. Sounded very tacti-uncool. Was kind of annoying. Just.....shhh and shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I've no problem with kids generally, sometimes I'll even go out of my way to give them tips if I see then doing something wrong (the usual one being 'you need to move a bit closer, they're way out of range'). They only annoy me if they start trying to impress the older players, but seriously miscalculate what is considered impressive. Example being one time when I was trying to get some decent headcam footage for a game my non-airsoft friends were in, and half the great camera moments were ruined by a kid with an M249 shouting 'GET SOME! COME GET SOME!' over and over and over. And then a group of kids seriously overestimating how much military strategy is applicable to airsoft. Basically trying to sound like characters from a war film/game. Sounded very tacti-uncool. Was kind of annoying. Just.....shhh and shoot Last RIFT game I was at there were 2 little kids - one in a bright yellow spongebob tshirt with a clear plastic miniature M4 that could possibly have come from Home Bargains, and what looked like his school PE shorts, just screaming his head off, spraying orange BBs randomly and shouting things like "target acquired, engage on my command!" as soon as he spotted someone on the other team, WAYYYY out of range. I think he shot more of us than the other team. The other kid was a young girl, full multicam, P90 RIF, dealt out damage like she'd just got back from 3 years in Basra. So yeah, I think you get a whole mix, regardless of age. Although I do have a particular dislike for the young screamers. Especially when they shout "NOT FAIR" when they get hit, and just carry on shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Seen adults play the game like it's bloody call of duty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey666 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 biggest problem i see at local site is regulars judging new players before they even get out into the field. i have recently started taking my 14 y.o. son and brought him a gun and kit. he has played a few times and most were very helpful but a couple of guys who were regulars started talking sh** before we even got out into the field. if you put them off before they start sooner or later they will be playing on there own. age is nothing in airsoft ,willing to play as a team and playing by the rules is what gets you respect with others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypermonkey Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 There were 6-10 under 14s at the Dec 18th Game at The Mall on our team. They looked a little lost so I took a couple of them into the darkness of the basement for a session. Wait, let me rephrase that. They were hanging around the re-spawn and weren't enjoying the day. We needed to clear through the basement so I asked them if they wanted to shoot people up close and they lit up. They followed direction really well and got right into the game. They went where needed and got the hang of suppression fire/angles of attack/when to move by the end of the 40 mins. The next game they went off with their mates and held the basement area all game. I felt like a proud parent!! In the breaks they were asking about our kit, any insight into best first weapons and really got enthused about the sport. A complete 180 from 2 hours previously. Like mentioned above there can be pre-judging due to their age/all the gear no idea but the same can go for some adults if not more so as they are adults and know it all. Our little group tend to 'pass it forward' regarding help, information etc as we were all newbies at some point, me only a year ago. Now you'll have to excuse me as I have a basement full of young boys to attend to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careless Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 dont mind the kids as some of there traites can also be found in adults belive it or not?! but there are few things that kids do which would be nice if they didnt any kids reading this take note! or not... :-Do your own thing!, but bare in mind its a team game with an objective, i dont like to be followed generally by anyone but kids for some reason love to follow so dont follow people unless its needed for the team , but just do your own thing ,you dont need to follow anyone! .. :-Keep it quiet! , tainted with the same brush , you lot make so much noise !, again if your doing your own thing and your not following people then feel free to make as much noise as you like, but generally be as quiet as possible!, as other people certainly wont appreciate you being noisy near them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted December 27, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 27, 2016 Typically the biggest tosser at any game day is the geardo pretend soldier type but I wouldn't say they are generally ex forces and if they say they are they are usually either bullsh*tting or were a desk jockey not an actual battlefield soldier. Admittedly the people who give it I was in the army and I am a professional even though they were a chef or spanner monkey are bloody annoying though.I regularly play private games with a bunch of exforces and they refuse to go to normal games because of those sort of people. They all enjoy airsoft for it being airsoft but absolutely hate the pretend military side of it.But I also know a lot of people who spend a lot of money on some of their kit but that doesn't make them a wanker just someone who has money to spend on toys.I also know a few exforces who play who are good blokes and just play to have a laugh and don't have the bad attitude described.Being an irritating geardo tosser isn't just about what you own or your background its more about how you act on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Esoterick Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 The players I've had issues with the most are ones that are running the most commonly used gear. This is purely because they make up roughly 80% of the playerbase on any given skirmish so are going to contain the biggest number of bellends through sheer volume. It's extremely unlikely for this not to be the case, even if you've decided otherwise. Should we start banning all players running M4s with a cheap chest rig and army surplus gear because they are all dickheads? Personally I've not seen any reason to have an issue with players of a specific group until an individual proves that they are a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 ...were a desk jockey not an actual battlefield soldier. Admittedly the people who give it I was in the army and I am a professional even though they were a chef or spanner monkey are bloody annoying though. That's a pretty poor way to talk if I might say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 That's a pretty poor way to talk if I might say so. Why is it? If someone at a skirmish gives it all the I am an expert and acts like their military training makes them some sort of tactical expert but all they really did was shuffle paper then thats sad. Most of the elitist exforces players you meet have no real tactical experience past basic training and I will stick by that point of view. The real soldier types don't tend to throw their experience in your face and try to act all superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Why is it? If someone at a skirmish gives it all the I am an expert and acts like their military training makes them some sort of tactical expert but all they really did was shuffle paper then thats sad. Most of the elitist exforces players you meet how no real tactical experience past basic training and I will stick by that point of view. The real soldier types don't tend to throw their experience in your face and try to act all superior. Airsoft aside, it just seems to me like you have a very low regard of AF members who aren't out getting shot at all day, or as you put it "real soldiers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 Airsoft aside, it just seems to me like you have a very low regard of AF members who aren't out getting shot at all day, or as you put it "real soldiers". Then you shouldn't jump to conclusions to are not qualified to make. I have a lot of friends and a few family members who are in the forces or were who were not actual frontline soldiers. I have a lot of respect for all the forces members and know that support staff are every bit as important as the fighting force. I have met a few airsofters from this forum who were forces one was a tank crewman who blatantly said he hadn't handled a gun since basic and couple of others who have said that their military experience is of no benefit to airsoft. Honesty I appreciate. My problem is with the ex and current forces members who go round acting like they are something they are not. If you were a clerk then you shouldn't turn up at an airsoft site acting like something you are not the same goes for those that lie about being in the forces at all. Airsoft does have a few like that and most regular airsofters have come across one somewhere down the line. Next time you want to jump to a conclusion read my posts properly and try to use a bit of reasoning to understand whats actually being said. If you can't come back with a sensible and logical response don't bother replying with nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 90% of real military tactics do not work in Airsoft. Anyone who claims they do, or tries to use them to any effect generally doesn't know how they actually work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I have a lot of respect for all the forces members and know that support staff are every bit as important as the fighting force. Then I read you wrong. I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 90% of real military tactics do not work in Airsoft. Anyone who claims they do, or tries to use them to any effect generally doesn't know how they actually work.And thats the opinion of a serving member of the armed forces and a milsimer. As I said honesty is a good thing. Unlike the fat idiot who I overheard telling a bunch of youngsters in the safezone that he was undergoing specialist training at Hereford and they should follow him round and he would show them how its done. His fat gut hanging out of his UBACS didn't quite convince he was telling the truth. He did like to shout mag out and contact like a pro though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysperse Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 90% of real military tactics do not work in Airsoft. Anyone who claims they do, or tries to use them to any effect generally doesn't know how they actually work. True there. No one seems to understand that most real combat tactics are based on suppressing and diversionary actions. This doesn't work in airsoft as there is no threat of dying. Airsoft is about running around like a lunatic shooting people, not tactics. Think of it as more like a video game where you are the character... a very very expensive video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 True there. No one seems to understand that most real combat tactics are based on suppressing and diversionary actions. This doesn't work in airsoft as there is no threat of dying. Airsoft is about running around like a lunatic shooting people, not tactics. Think of it as more like a video game where you are the character... a very very expensive video game. Not to mention the fact that everyone carries close to 1000rds ammunition, and gets to stock up again every hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted December 28, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 28, 2016 I've spent a fair bit of time at a pistol school in Georgia, and that's the only training that has ever translated to airsoft (not AF myself, but both my roommates are, and I help at some of their exercises (drone videoing and such)). For MilSim a bit more translates, but thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacarathe Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Not to mention the fact that everyone carries close to 1000rds ammunition, and gets to stock up again every hour. Reloading is the most fun aspect of gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted December 29, 2016 Supporters Share Posted December 29, 2016 Think of it as more like a video game where you are the character... a very very expensive video game. My definition is: airosft is not imitating real military action. It's imitating action movies. Milsimmers replay Black Hawk Down and such, skirmishers replay Die hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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