Albiscuit

Makes a change from the “want to play what’s best gnu” threads 😂😂
 
You clearly have done your research, it’s refreshing to see rather than being asked best gun and best place to buy and do I need a license haha

Makes a change from the “want to play what’s best gnu” threads 😂😂
 
You clearly have done your research, it’s refreshing to see rather than being asked best gun and best place to buy and do I need a license haha

Site Name: Skirmish Wycombe
Contact details: 01494 578077
Website Address: https://skirmishwycombeairsoft.com
Facebook Page: Skirmish Wycombe Airsoft | Facebook
Site Address: Fryers Farm Lane, High Wycombe HP14 3NP
 
The last true long standing site close to London that I had never been to. @Albiscuit and I were going to go to Red 1 Oblivion, which fell through so decided to dust off the old reviews and give Skirmish Wycombe a visit. We attended on 30/01/2022.
 
Skirmish Wycombe are usually fully booked and run every week switching between Saturdays and Sundays. It's a paintball site which is also used for Airsoft. It's a fairly long running site. 
 
Small Woodland site which has nice variation with regards to elevation with a valley running through a third of the site and elevated precipice above it. Short/Medium/Long range engagement distances. Foliage is both low and high but hardly any at head height so there is enough visibility for bolt action users and not so great for the taller person. There are plenty of earthworks and man made structures (None of which are particularly complex and only one small elevated building.)
 
Good:
 
Playing Area: It is quite a small site but it's nice and varied, despite being a paintball site first, the zones are opened up nicely and run into each-other for Airsoft ranges. As explained before there are lots of manmade buildings and earthworks, though maybe something a bit more elaborate could make this a truly excellent. 
 
Turn around time: Pretty short, you certainly get your moneys worth, they get lots of games in. 
 
Safe Zone: Small area, though it looks like it could be expanding soon, everything is covered and was big enough for the small crowd that attended. Park bench style seating and tables. Digital signage for the food stall, Battery charging available. It was good overall, but it did feel a little "tired", could do with some sprucing up. 
 
Safety Brief: Short and sweet. Covered most things. 
 
Food: Pulled pork with BBQ sauce and for us non pork/veggies, freshly cut Mediterranean vegetables with Mac and Cheese. It was stonkingly good food for an airsoft site, and is included with the £30 entry fee. Seems to be cooked on site. The tuck shop had digital boards with the prices on, they do freshly made milkshakes (Shakeway style made with different sweets etc) Had what appeared to be syrup style fizzy drink dispensers. So for Food and Drink, this site is first class. All the more impressive that it's in-house. No food trucks here. 
 
Shop: Really good shop! A large and wide selection of RIFs and pistols. They had an LCT Val, WE Makarov, G&G GK5C, F2000's. Really interesting selection. Prices are high like at most on-site shops. But not many places have this breadth of selection.
 
Game Modes: Mostly simple, but effective, usual domination/zombie/4 way round robin games. Have a nice looking bomb setup. 
 
Average: 
 
Value: £30 is quite a lot to ask for when the site is pretty small, but the food and turn around time does make up for it. 
 
Clientele: Very young, lots of rentals and new people to the sport with very few older gents. They were friendly enough, but behaviour in the field was very suspect.
 
Toilets: In an elevated shack in the car park, not an ideal position. It has real porcelain which is usually a good rating by default, but they were a little dirty and stank quite badly! I think the waste is stored underneath and removed periodically. 
 
Car Park/Entrance: Small mud car park, sign posted at the entrance but you need to follow signs for Fryers Farm thereafter and not mistakenly come off the other junctions within. Car Park is nearly right at the end of the main track after you see a gate that says "Staff only". It hadn't rained much recently, but I can imagine it getting slippery up to the nearby elevated safe zone.
 
Chrono: Mandatory and everything was tagged. Usual 350 FPS for AEGs, shotguns and pistols. 450 for DMR and 500 for BASR. Would get a "Good" but Al overheard a marshal ask another marshal
 
"This guys rifle is shooting over 350 on one chrono and 320 on another, what should I do?"
 
"Go by the reading that lets them play". 
 
They also required me to chrono by .2's so they do not account for joule creep on heavier ammo. 
 
Bad: 
 
Hit taking: This was the massive bugbear of the day. In the morning there were some poor hit takers, mostly from frustrated players who couldn't break through enemy lines. We really enjoyed the mornings games despite this and were glad to carry on without grumbling. I made a prophetic comment at lunch (As long as the hit taking doesn't get any worse, I would consider this site fantastic, we'll see what happens!)
 
The Afternoon was a complete shitshow for all three games. Two almost whole site games fighting over a single objective, there were about 4-5 grey hooded rentals, none of which would take their hits, you could see bb's pinging off them, they held important buildings which overlooked the main objective and wouldn't budge. I went up to one at the end of a game and said how well they held up and if they died at all? "Nah mate". It was almost comical how it was the grey hooded players that didn't take hits. It was a classic stereotype.
 
On my own side there were other hooded rentals who would get shot, take the hit and instead of walking back to spawn 3 minutes away, would go behind a hedge and spawn straight back in. 
 
I had to exclaim to many rentals on my side that dead men don't talk as they kept trying to relay information to me about enemy whereabouts after they had been shot or asking me where I was shot from when I was walking back to spawn.
 
Marshalling: I was tempted to put this in "Average", there are a number of marshal's, but only one appeared to have any experience or clout, and was looked to for advice by the others on a consistent basis. Considering how many people were complaining about how bad the hit taking was, I didn't see anyone get spoken to, no test shooting and no shadowing of suspect people. 
 
CEASEFIRE: In the afternoon games ceasefire was called no less then 6 times in two half hour games. Unsure as to why, some people say it was because people were walking on a footpath nearby. This needs to be sorted with maybe a proper fence etc as it killed the flow of the game (And many people would sneakily move up and into better positions from where they were when the ceasefire was called).
 
Conclusion: 
 
A really difficult one, we really like the site and we will come back to see what happens playing against different people. The morning was excellent and was great gameplay but the inaction over hit taking really killed the Afternoon for us to the point that we left slightly early deflated. It goes to say, there were roughly just as many rentals as there were experienced players.
 
We liked the informal atmosphere and the on-site facilities were great. They limit numbers as the site is rather small and the numbers were about right. I'd like to come back and see what it looks like with summer foliage. 
 
The Marshalling team need to be far more pro-active/confident in dealing and directing players, maybe some more experience would be a good idea. 
 
Bullpup Watch: T97, an Aug of some description.
 
Best Guess Map: 
 

 

Plenty of empty toys r is stores around and they all have parking if some enterprising Airsofter wants to look into it.
 

As nick said its more about how you approach the game rather than if it will work for you.
With loads of different guns to choose from we often get caught up in the which da best gnu topics and chats buts its all down to play-style.
 
Yeah limited ammo, heavy mags etc, but man an MP7 is fun to use. Range is also one of those topics which is divisive, its not a sniper rifle, but if you find yourself out ranged then be more sneaky and get closer.
 
I run a mixture of either MP7 or MP9 with 6 mags, or an aeg with a drum mag generally. Depends on how im feeling, sneaky or speedy really. Some game days I will play the AEG in the morning and the gas gun after lunch if I cant be bothered to leg it around everywhere.

As nick said its more about how you approach the game rather than if it will work for you.
With loads of different guns to choose from we often get caught up in the which da best gnu topics and chats buts its all down to play-style.
 
Yeah limited ammo, heavy mags etc, but man an MP7 is fun to use. Range is also one of those topics which is divisive, its not a sniper rifle, but if you find yourself out ranged then be more sneaky and get closer.
 
I run a mixture of either MP7 or MP9 with 6 mags, or an aeg with a drum mag generally. Depends on how im feeling, sneaky or speedy really. Some game days I will play the AEG in the morning and the gas gun after lunch if I cant be bothered to leg it around everywhere.

As nick said its more about how you approach the game rather than if it will work for you.
With loads of different guns to choose from we often get caught up in the which da best gnu topics and chats buts its all down to play-style.
 
Yeah limited ammo, heavy mags etc, but man an MP7 is fun to use. Range is also one of those topics which is divisive, its not a sniper rifle, but if you find yourself out ranged then be more sneaky and get closer.
 
I run a mixture of either MP7 or MP9 with 6 mags, or an aeg with a drum mag generally. Depends on how im feeling, sneaky or speedy really. Some game days I will play the AEG in the morning and the gas gun after lunch if I cant be bothered to leg it around everywhere.

Totally get you on this, but my logic says if its open for a service, and warranty voided, why not upgrade it at the same time?
 
But then I only have 1 'upgraded' gun and that was a pointless waste of time   
 
Tell a lie, I have fiddled around with two pistols so you could say they are upgraded, but I done those myself and neither are in total working order so likely not haha
 
They quickly become triggers broom though dont they.
Like the sales posts with "everything upgraded" its not the same gun then is it? its a frankengun.

Totally get you on this, but my logic says if its open for a service, and warranty voided, why not upgrade it at the same time?
 
But then I only have 1 'upgraded' gun and that was a pointless waste of time   
 
Tell a lie, I have fiddled around with two pistols so you could say they are upgraded, but I done those myself and neither are in total working order so likely not haha
 
They quickly become triggers broom though dont they.
Like the sales posts with "everything upgraded" its not the same gun then is it? its a frankengun.

Totally get you on this, but my logic says if its open for a service, and warranty voided, why not upgrade it at the same time?
 
But then I only have 1 'upgraded' gun and that was a pointless waste of time   
 
Tell a lie, I have fiddled around with two pistols so you could say they are upgraded, but I done those myself and neither are in total working order so likely not haha
 
They quickly become triggers broom though dont they.
Like the sales posts with "everything upgraded" its not the same gun then is it? its a frankengun.

The reason I wouldnt is a warranty issue. 
 
I can use a brand new gun for a while safe in the knowledge that a warranty will still cover me IF it does go wrong. The moment a tech opens it up the warranty is lost and if the tech is just giving it a service an a stock part fails then your screwed.
 
I would rather use it until it does go wrong or I feel it needs some upgrades then send it off.
 
But each to their own.

The reason I wouldnt is a warranty issue. 
 
I can use a brand new gun for a while safe in the knowledge that a warranty will still cover me IF it does go wrong. The moment a tech opens it up the warranty is lost and if the tech is just giving it a service an a stock part fails then your screwed.
 
I would rather use it until it does go wrong or I feel it needs some upgrades then send it off.
 
But each to their own.

The reason I wouldnt is a warranty issue. 
 
I can use a brand new gun for a while safe in the knowledge that a warranty will still cover me IF it does go wrong. The moment a tech opens it up the warranty is lost and if the tech is just giving it a service an a stock part fails then your screwed.
 
I would rather use it until it does go wrong or I feel it needs some upgrades then send it off.
 
But each to their own.

I use a chest rig and belt set up personally. But I like to keep things as simple and low profile as possible.
 
But its all down to personal choice, you will get varying responses from different people and hopefully explaining why we use these set ups, however you need to find what works for YOU. Airsoft is a personal games, the only thing you need to have is eye pro, and even then there are more choices than you can shake a stick at. This is why experienced players tend to have enough spare kit to fill the boot of a car as we buy stuff we think we need or want to realise its not quite right and get another option, and repeat and repeat etc   
 
I have tried a large chest rig with loads of room for gear, a plate carrier and a belt only set up and after 3/4 years finally found what I think is the best set up for how I play and what I use. Which is the Viper vx buckle up rig https://ukmcpro.co.uk/products/viper-vx-buckle-up-utility-rig It takes 6 smg mags and 2 pistol mags (but is modular for any set up) sits square in the middle of my chest and doesnt catch on scrub, trees or my sling. Cheap too (my plate carrier cost me over £100 and was used once  )
 
I dont like the feel of a plate carrier, I find it restricting, also I was tempted to fill it with unnecessary pouches and kit. Like you I tend not to carry uneeded gear. I for one do not see the point in carrying gear which you dont use just for a look as you end up with extra stuff you need to lug around, might get caught on bushes etc and costs money. But thats just me.
 
To be fair any set up could look good in your eyes, I would have a look next time your on site and see something someone else is using and ask questions about it. 
 
Military 1st is a great website, they have plenty of chest rig options avilable, good service too. Have a browse. Get a camo which works for your loadout, looking at what yoiu have a multicam, tan or olive rig would work and be multifunctional too.

I have carbined one of mine, its pretty damn cool. I have plenty of SMGs but theres something about a carbine pistol thats a bit easier to move around and its a bit different. I still have a pistol on my waist when I use it though for the flexibility.
 
Plus the AAP is so damn cheap its easy and inexpensive to chuck all the add ons onto it. Although when you add it all up it is the price of a cheaper SMG oops haha

I have carbined one of mine, its pretty damn cool. I have plenty of SMGs but theres something about a carbine pistol thats a bit easier to move around and its a bit different. I still have a pistol on my waist when I use it though for the flexibility.
 
Plus the AAP is so damn cheap its easy and inexpensive to chuck all the add ons onto it. Although when you add it all up it is the price of a cheaper SMG oops haha

Can you type bigger, it’s hard to read with only one eye  

Are you sure hes on the left?  🤔

No no no, save your finest ones. Sent him your worst turds! 

Plenty of sites I have been to have mentioned its not ok and people will be removed. 
 
A few years back a whole team were kicked out of Battle lakes when Zed were running it because of of their guys had a joint in the carpark between games. In fairness it was mentioned in the brief so tough shit really.
 
Most people are idiots anyway, drink and drugs heighten that so I would prefer it not on site.

My gawd its ugly.
 
 
I love it!!

Plenty of sites I have been to have mentioned its not ok and people will be removed. 
 
A few years back a whole team were kicked out of Battle lakes when Zed were running it because of of their guys had a joint in the carpark between games. In fairness it was mentioned in the brief so tough shit really.
 
Most people are idiots anyway, drink and drugs heighten that so I would prefer it not on site.

Plenty of sites I have been to have mentioned its not ok and people will be removed. 
 
A few years back a whole team were kicked out of Battle lakes when Zed were running it because of of their guys had a joint in the carpark between games. In fairness it was mentioned in the brief so tough shit really.
 
Most people are idiots anyway, drink and drugs heighten that so I would prefer it not on site.

Plenty of sites I have been to have mentioned its not ok and people will be removed. 
 
A few years back a whole team were kicked out of Battle lakes when Zed were running it because of of their guys had a joint in the carpark between games. In fairness it was mentioned in the brief so tough shit really.
 
Most people are idiots anyway, drink and drugs heighten that so I would prefer it not on site.

Plenty of sites I have been to have mentioned its not ok and people will be removed. 
 
A few years back a whole team were kicked out of Battle lakes when Zed were running it because of of their guys had a joint in the carpark between games. In fairness it was mentioned in the brief so tough shit really.
 
Most people are idiots anyway, drink and drugs heighten that so I would prefer it not on site.