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Suffice to say great work for catching it, raising awareness and to all that have acted on insisting some proof of safety standard is provided until sales can continue.
 
If you want to peddle 'custom made' wank to anyone daft enough to buy it then I guess more the fool them. But safety equipment is where a pretty firm line needs to be drawn. Grumpy old twats as we may be, excellent work folks.

As much as I agree I’ve just come to accept it as a colloquial term for ‘not stock’. As many in airsoft are it’s literally just a throw away term, much like many folks think the moment ‘CNC’ is attached to something that it’s of superior quality to something manufactured in a different way (hard truth for some, not always the case).
 
I pretty strictly use the term ‘aftermarket parts’, but I’m aware I’m cutting my nose off by doing so because just putting ‘upgraded’ would likely attract more attention. You/we have the benefit of being educated as to what will and won’t make something perform better (for the most part), the ‘fuLLy upGrAdeD’ ads (at least I suspect) are more targeting buzz words to catch folks none the wiser. And unfortunately it works, or at least seems to given the rate at which they tend to sell and the lack of rant threads from folks claiming they’ve been ripped off.
 
Does it make me cringe? Yup. Has it been around for forever? Yup. Will it continue? Yup. Am I glad this thread exists for momentary grumble? Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
Edit: I’m in no way denying upgrades exist, but to be an upgrade there needs to have been a measurable improvement by some sort of metric from a baseline. If you’re selling something that’s been upgraded and you can’t tell me what the improvements are as a ‘before and after’ then how do you know it’s actually an upgrade?

As much as I agree I’ve just come to accept it as a colloquial term for ‘not stock’. As many in airsoft are it’s literally just a throw away term, much like many folks think the moment ‘CNC’ is attached to something that it’s of superior quality to something manufactured in a different way (hard truth for some, not always the case).
 
I pretty strictly use the term ‘aftermarket parts’, but I’m aware I’m cutting my nose off by doing so because just putting ‘upgraded’ would likely attract more attention. You/we have the benefit of being educated as to what will and won’t make something perform better (for the most part), the ‘fuLLy upGrAdeD’ ads (at least I suspect) are more targeting buzz words to catch folks none the wiser. And unfortunately it works, or at least seems to given the rate at which they tend to sell and the lack of rant threads from folks claiming they’ve been ripped off.
 
Does it make me cringe? Yup. Has it been around for forever? Yup. Will it continue? Yup. Am I glad this thread exists for momentary grumble? Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
Edit: I’m in no way denying upgrades exist, but to be an upgrade there needs to have been a measurable improvement by some sort of metric from a baseline. If you’re selling something that’s been upgraded and you can’t tell me what the improvements are as a ‘before and after’ then how do you know it’s actually an upgrade?

As much as I agree I’ve just come to accept it as a colloquial term for ‘not stock’. As many in airsoft are it’s literally just a throw away term, much like many folks think the moment ‘CNC’ is attached to something that it’s of superior quality to something manufactured in a different way (hard truth for some, not always the case).
 
I pretty strictly use the term ‘aftermarket parts’, but I’m aware I’m cutting my nose off by doing so because just putting ‘upgraded’ would likely attract more attention. You/we have the benefit of being educated as to what will and won’t make something perform better (for the most part), the ‘fuLLy upGrAdeD’ ads (at least I suspect) are more targeting buzz words to catch folks none the wiser. And unfortunately it works, or at least seems to given the rate at which they tend to sell and the lack of rant threads from folks claiming they’ve been ripped off.
 
Does it make me cringe? Yup. Has it been around for forever? Yup. Will it continue? Yup. Am I glad this thread exists for momentary grumble? Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
Edit: I’m in no way denying upgrades exist, but to be an upgrade there needs to have been a measurable improvement by some sort of metric from a baseline. If you’re selling something that’s been upgraded and you can’t tell me what the improvements are as a ‘before and after’ then how do you know it’s actually an upgrade?

As much as I agree I’ve just come to accept it as a colloquial term for ‘not stock’. As many in airsoft are it’s literally just a throw away term, much like many folks think the moment ‘CNC’ is attached to something that it’s of superior quality to something manufactured in a different way (hard truth for some, not always the case).
 
I pretty strictly use the term ‘aftermarket parts’, but I’m aware I’m cutting my nose off by doing so because just putting ‘upgraded’ would likely attract more attention. You/we have the benefit of being educated as to what will and won’t make something perform better (for the most part), the ‘fuLLy upGrAdeD’ ads (at least I suspect) are more targeting buzz words to catch folks none the wiser. And unfortunately it works, or at least seems to given the rate at which they tend to sell and the lack of rant threads from folks claiming they’ve been ripped off.
 
Does it make me cringe? Yup. Has it been around for forever? Yup. Will it continue? Yup. Am I glad this thread exists for momentary grumble? Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
Edit: I’m in no way denying upgrades exist, but to be an upgrade there needs to have been a measurable improvement by some sort of metric from a baseline. If you’re selling something that’s been upgraded and you can’t tell me what the improvements are as a ‘before and after’ then how do you know it’s actually an upgrade?

As much as I agree I’ve just come to accept it as a colloquial term for ‘not stock’. As many in airsoft are it’s literally just a throw away term, much like many folks think the moment ‘CNC’ is attached to something that it’s of superior quality to something manufactured in a different way (hard truth for some, not always the case).
 
I pretty strictly use the term ‘aftermarket parts’, but I’m aware I’m cutting my nose off by doing so because just putting ‘upgraded’ would likely attract more attention. You/we have the benefit of being educated as to what will and won’t make something perform better (for the most part), the ‘fuLLy upGrAdeD’ ads (at least I suspect) are more targeting buzz words to catch folks none the wiser. And unfortunately it works, or at least seems to given the rate at which they tend to sell and the lack of rant threads from folks claiming they’ve been ripped off.
 
Does it make me cringe? Yup. Has it been around for forever? Yup. Will it continue? Yup. Am I glad this thread exists for momentary grumble? Abso-fucking-lutely.
 
Edit: I’m in no way denying upgrades exist, but to be an upgrade there needs to have been a measurable improvement by some sort of metric from a baseline. If you’re selling something that’s been upgraded and you can’t tell me what the improvements are as a ‘before and after’ then how do you know it’s actually an upgrade?

I believe that's the hop adjustment lever (or 'trajectory adjustor' as ICS call it in the manual).
 
Source: ICS MP5 Manual

It may well be the bucking needs to bed in a bit before it'll 'play nice' with .32s. Might worth intermitently dipping back to .32s every thousand rounds or so to see... though the more expedient way (if .32s are what you want to use) would be to play around with different nubs/remove some material from the nub currently being used in Monkman's case. I'd never had any issues with .32s with mine, but admittedly my G&G green is anything but fresh out of the packet, I dread to think how many rounds that thing has seen. G&G may have also changed the design/material slightly since I picked mine up, but I feel like that'd be something plenty of folks would pick up on had that been the case given how many folks use them in a veriety of RIFs.
 
Nevertheless, good to hear that shots aren't hooking anymore.

"I can't hear you on comms bud, all I can hear is something that sounds like someone breathing through their nose."
 
Fishing for reactions aside, I feel like this is the sort of thing firmly targeting newer players and pushing for deeper scrutinisation before someone that doesn't know any better winds up with some long term injuries is absolutely something to chase for if possible.

"I can't hear you on comms bud, all I can hear is something that sounds like someone breathing through their nose."
 
Fishing for reactions aside, I feel like this is the sort of thing firmly targeting newer players and pushing for deeper scrutinisation before someone that doesn't know any better winds up with some long term injuries is absolutely something to chase for if possible.

"I can't hear you on comms bud, all I can hear is something that sounds like someone breathing through their nose."
 
Fishing for reactions aside, I feel like this is the sort of thing firmly targeting newer players and pushing for deeper scrutinisation before someone that doesn't know any better winds up with some long term injuries is absolutely something to chase for if possible.

Anyway, with that aside. Barrel length doesn't do a huge amount for you, though it's wise to have some degree of volume matching (which I'll assume won't be the case from the factory) if it's 'peak performance' you're ultimately shooting for.

As with any of the cheaper brands (and more expensive ones these days unfortunately) the biggest gamble you're taking is with QC. Generally speaking that's more of a roll of the dice with your more budget brands, but it's not to say the more 'premium brands' are immune to it by any stretch. The reason this is generally more significant is it can render the prior experience of folks that have used/use this RIF somewhat moot.
 
The advice ultimately being the same it is everytime something along these lines comes up, if you just want a new RIF for whatever reason then go for it. If the actual thing you want is purely just a bump in performance, that cash would be wiser spent on bumping up your current RIF.
 
Figure out which of those two statements is a better fit and pick your poison as appropriate.

Because I have zero self control I gave into the pull of the Spiritus delivery at TK. Bought some bits for a plate carrier I was intending to be selling 😅.
 

Because I have zero self control I gave into the pull of the Spiritus delivery at TK. Bought some bits for a plate carrier I was intending to be selling 😅.
 

Because I have zero self control I gave into the pull of the Spiritus delivery at TK. Bought some bits for a plate carrier I was intending to be selling 😅.
 

Because I have zero self control I gave into the pull of the Spiritus delivery at TK. Bought some bits for a plate carrier I was intending to be selling 😅.
 

Having read my initial post back I could have been clearer. The 'offensive' bit I was refering to was the phrase we agree is no longer acceptable. The dipping into the identification subject was, in my opinion, inappropriate and unneccesary within the topic of conversation. I felt the conversation was starting to go in an inappropriate direction, explained why, and left it at that. I was very concious of not pointing out that I was offended, and was simply raising that it may not reflect well. If you're happy to accept that it may not reflect well, and think the humour is worth it, then as you were.
 
I won't waste my time trying to convince anyone that they should consider what they think is humour could be offensive to others. I'm a straight white British male (as imagine the vast majority of the folks that make up this forum are), I'm/we're fortunate to not have to deal with that sort of stuff on a daily basis. As expected the term snowflake has now been thrown in there, so that's good.
 
I'm more than aware of the general demographic for airsoft, alongside the general demographic for forums so I can't say I'm surprised by the reaction of being challenged on it. I agree that it is all subjective, what isn't subjective is that if it hadn't been said at all then there would have been no risk of offending anyone.
 
I won't drag it out any further, I've said what I wanted to say and I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to give a reasoned response so I felt I should do the same.
 

The E&L arrived today, what an absolute lump it is. I wasn't expecting my biggest take away to be 'fuck me, that smells good'... but here we are.
 

 
Just waiting on a delivery from Russia and we’ll finally be underway on getting it together.

The E&L arrived today, what an absolute lump it is. I wasn't expecting my biggest take away to be 'fuck me, that smells good'... but here we are.
 

 
Just waiting on a delivery from Russia and we’ll finally be underway on getting it together.

The E&L arrived today, what an absolute lump it is. I wasn't expecting my biggest take away to be 'fuck me, that smells good'... but here we are.
 

 
Just waiting on a delivery from Russia and we’ll finally be underway on getting it together.

Having read my initial post back I could have been clearer. The 'offensive' bit I was refering to was the phrase we agree is no longer acceptable. The dipping into the identification subject was, in my opinion, inappropriate and unneccesary within the topic of conversation. I felt the conversation was starting to go in an inappropriate direction, explained why, and left it at that. I was very concious of not pointing out that I was offended, and was simply raising that it may not reflect well. If you're happy to accept that it may not reflect well, and think the humour is worth it, then as you were.
 
I won't waste my time trying to convince anyone that they should consider what they think is humour could be offensive to others. I'm a straight white British male (as imagine the vast majority of the folks that make up this forum are), I'm/we're fortunate to not have to deal with that sort of stuff on a daily basis. As expected the term snowflake has now been thrown in there, so that's good.
 
I'm more than aware of the general demographic for airsoft, alongside the general demographic for forums so I can't say I'm surprised by the reaction of being challenged on it. I agree that it is all subjective, what isn't subjective is that if it hadn't been said at all then there would have been no risk of offending anyone.
 
I won't drag it out any further, I've said what I wanted to say and I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to give a reasoned response so I felt I should do the same.
 

Having read my initial post back I could have been clearer. The 'offensive' bit I was refering to was the phrase we agree is no longer acceptable. The dipping into the identification subject was, in my opinion, inappropriate and unneccesary within the topic of conversation. I felt the conversation was starting to go in an inappropriate direction, explained why, and left it at that. I was very concious of not pointing out that I was offended, and was simply raising that it may not reflect well. If you're happy to accept that it may not reflect well, and think the humour is worth it, then as you were.
 
I won't waste my time trying to convince anyone that they should consider what they think is humour could be offensive to others. I'm a straight white British male (as imagine the vast majority of the folks that make up this forum are), I'm/we're fortunate to not have to deal with that sort of stuff on a daily basis. As expected the term snowflake has now been thrown in there, so that's good.
 
I'm more than aware of the general demographic for airsoft, alongside the general demographic for forums so I can't say I'm surprised by the reaction of being challenged on it. I agree that it is all subjective, what isn't subjective is that if it hadn't been said at all then there would have been no risk of offending anyone.
 
I won't drag it out any further, I've said what I wanted to say and I genuinely appreciate you taking the time to give a reasoned response so I felt I should do the same.
 

I dare say it's safe to say this thread has run its course, before we start (or continue) to dip into offending people (be that intentionally, or unintentionally).
 
More than happy to get flamed to kingdom come for it, but I don't think the sexuality/gender/indentification is particularly appropriate. If you're genuinely confused by it, there are plenty of great resources to become better informed.

It may well be the bucking needs to bed in a bit before it'll 'play nice' with .32s. Might worth intermitently dipping back to .32s every thousand rounds or so to see... though the more expedient way (if .32s are what you want to use) would be to play around with different nubs/remove some material from the nub currently being used in Monkman's case. I'd never had any issues with .32s with mine, but admittedly my G&G green is anything but fresh out of the packet, I dread to think how many rounds that thing has seen. G&G may have also changed the design/material slightly since I picked mine up, but I feel like that'd be something plenty of folks would pick up on had that been the case given how many folks use them in a veriety of RIFs.
 
Nevertheless, good to hear that shots aren't hooking anymore.