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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Egon_247 and 2 others reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
An extra half a joule is quite a jump in muzzle energy. Eg putting the full auto limit up to 1.63j would be 418.87fps with a .2g bb. Anyone running a gun that hot deserves said gun to be inserted so far up their arse they choke on the flash hider3 points -
The 'What have you just bought' Thread
Enid_Puceflange and 2 others reacted to Tank423 for a topic
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Galvatron and 2 others reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
Fixed that for you. You don’t know about the ones who are not caught. You may not have realised it, but that post was an admission that what you regard as “better chrono practices” are not as effective as you seem to think.3 points -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Cannonfodder and 2 others reacted to Lyndication for a topic
At a certain point you just have to trust other players tbh, otherwise why bother? It's all an honour system anyway.3 points -
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Ancient TM M4A1 hop unit...fun n games...
ButcherBill and one other reacted to Egon_247 for a topic
Ooooh. Yeah. Baby. So I poked about a bit more and found that the barrel moved back and forth in the hop chamber, which isn't great obviously. So I cleaned it up with ipa and added a couple of turns of Ptfe tape to the outside of the rubber. Put it all back together and boom. 1.317J on a 0.28g. a touch too high granted but it feeds. It shoots. May have overdone the spring 😁 I'll get some pics up in a bit of it in all it's annoying glory. Thank you guys. Always helpful to those with silly pews...❤️❤️👍😂2 points -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Colin Allen and one other reacted to Rogerborg for a topic
On that, I did some health and safety liability training last century - specifically about how to avoid being sued or charged when things go wrong, as they will. It was drilled in that the worst thing you can do from a liability perspective is to identify a risk, and then put in place inadequate mitigation, because what you're doing is creating the rod that the HSE (or an insurer) will use to beat you. "You claimed that all players must be checked before playing. So run us through how Harry Hotgun evaded your checks and injured Tiny Tim, and why your process failed to anticipate and prevent that." How would you defend pre-game chrono, especially with "Trust me, bro" BB weights? We all know that it's trivial to cheat it, it's not a secret. 🤷♂️2 points -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
mrfoxhound and one other reacted to Tackle for a topic
I think we can argue this for the next couple of months, but ultimately all sites should be chronoing at the start of the day, on one weight, probably 0.20, and be prepared to have marshals do random on the spot checks using the same weight, especially if particular players have history or complaints made against them. End of the day, cheats WILL cheat, they'll use everything they can to achieve what the perceive to be an advantage over their fellow players, hpa, npas, quick change springs etc all enable them to make short notice changes to energy output after the chrono, & sites can't stop them, but they're letting down their honest clients by not trying their hardest to root out the cheats, & when found they should be very publicly banned. Any site that does that, I'd play there, as was said earlier, it's all about trust so any site that works hard to push that agenda gets my vote.2 points -
Springfield Armory M1 Carbine. Help!
Cannonfodder and one other reacted to BigStew for a topic
The Springfield M1 appears to be a rebrand of the Marushin/King Arms M1 and has been sold as a 4.5mm air gun and a 6mm Airsoft gun, As these links are stating airsoft they both are 6mm2 points -
custom gbb workshop Tokarev TT-33 we gbb airsoft ra tech steel slide ra tech steel out barrel real grip2 points
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Load-Out / Loadout Picture topic
ButcherBill and one other reacted to Hellfish for a topic
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Leaving Airsoft pistol clearout
ButcherBill and one other reacted to Special K for an advert
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg and one other reacted to Lyndication for a topic
This is why I make sure eyepro I wear is EN166b rated on the frame and lens, not just the lens. Habit from working in machine shops.2 points -
Well, they bill the buyer for it. I do wonder how much is rendered unto Caesar[*]. [*] Caesar Smith, he works in HMRC. Good bloke, very active in the local Rotary Club.2 points
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It would be even handier if the ape says "I hope you're not using more than 0.3g, mate, or you'll have to put it back in the bag", so that the player can just nod and confirm "Yeah, mate, yeah, I'm using whatever you just said" without even having to make up a weight themselves. The reality is that measing velocity, but not mass, is like proving a car is efficient by providing fuel receipts, then saying "Trust me bro" about the taped-over odometer.2 points
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Umerax HK45 GBB Pistol
Cannonfodder and one other reacted to sodat for an advert
Time Left: 1 day and 15 hours
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Umerax Heckler&Koch HK45 GBB pistol, purchased one month ago, only used for play, never used in wargames. The item includes two additional magazines. Feel free to contact me if you are interested. Info that u can check up online: The Heckler & Koch pistol with the largest caliber, .45 ACP, in the HK program – at least as far as the model is concerned. The licensed Airsoft version comes with a polymer handle, a metal slide and a noticeable blowback effect (about 1 Joule muzzle energy) caliber 6 mm BB Magazine capacity 24 shots bullet velocity 90 m / s energy Max. 1 joules length 205 mm mass 878 g£220
London - GB
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Gun picture thread
ButcherBill and one other reacted to Tackle for a topic
Silly me 🤦♂️, of course you have🤣2 points -
Imagine this scenario, a member is fed up with the silly prices some people are askin
ButcherBill and one other reacted to Tackle for a status update
Imagine this scenario, a member is fed up with the silly prices some people are asking, they know what shit costs & where to get it, but options for speaking your mind & calling them out are limited, theres only one solution, use an obscure af email address to create an account purely for the purpose of ripping the shit out of them.🤔 Thank God nobody here would do that😏2 points -
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HARASSED ON AIRSOFT HUB
Rogerborg reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Afaik there's nothing in the vcra about the seller's age so this guy is talking out of his arse. As for what to do now, @EDcaseis right. Ignore and block. Also I would probably report him to airsofthub as I'm guessing you're not the first person he's done this to. This is a lesson in why putting personal information on a public advert isn't a good idea1 point -
As far as I know there is no stipulation the seller has to be over 18 but I'm no expert so best to wait for someone with more knowledge... And for dealing with trolls on the internet, wherever they appear, your best option is to ignore and block them. They hate that the most. Use any option to report them if available.1 point
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
If the site had identified a risk of people attempting to cheat the chrono and someone had managed to do so, the site would very possibly be found to be at fault as their measures to prevent it happening were inadequate. Anyway, I am out of this discussion; it is like trying to have a rational conversation with a flat earther.1 point -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Colin Allen reacted to Rogerborg for a topic
Then what was the point of the chrono? If you believe players about their BB weight, why wouldn't you just believe them when they say "I'm shooting at 1.1J" ? It's a genuine question. If we can agree that telling a simple lie make the chrono calculation meaningless, then does it really matter what the lie is?1 point -
Ancient TM M4A1 hop unit...fun n games...
Egon_247 reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
Nice! Well done!1 point -
Not really Gun - £349.99 - https://www.bespokeairsoft.co.uk/emg-helios-noveske-n4-mws-gen-3-gas-blowback-m4-by-double-eagle-tan-g101 DE PMag x2 - £129.98 - https://www.bespokeairsoft.co.uk/emg-helios-noveske-n4-m4-mws-gen-3-gas-magazine-by-double-eagle-35-rounds-tan Guns Modify PMag - £68.99 - https://highpressureairsoft.co.uk/products/guns-modify-evo-35rds-gbb-airsoft-magazine-for-tokyo-marui-mws-rifles Total new - £548.96 ----- 70% of - £384.27 Postage with PF - £12 Total - £396.27 Looks pretty spot on to me, all DE Pmags leak OOTB because they ship them ungassed.1 point
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Gun picture thread
Lozart reacted to ButcherBill for a topic
It's already fallen off the stand a dozen times.1 point -
Springfield Armory M1 Carbine. Help!
Cooperman26 reacted to ButcherBill for a topic
Other sites have it firing 4.5mm bb's, I'll assume those are steel ones. https://www.daileisure.co.uk/springfield-m1-carbine-co2-blowback1 point -
Ah fair. Always a fiddle with a Frankengun.1 point
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Gun picture thread
ButcherBill reacted to The_Lord_Poncho for a topic
Looks like you need to bin that tiny motorbike to free up some essential space. It will make all the difference.1 point -
E&C Glocks
pyromancer6 reacted to The_Lord_Poncho for a topic
Ah, sorry to hear it! My E&C G34 functions very well indeed - not that it helps your grief! WE mags work well in mine. Lovely looking set of pistols there - hope you get it sorted soon.1 point -
The old TM hops had a small spring on a peg protruding from the front of the feed tube iirc. You might be able to recreate it with some ingenuity.1 point
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
Is it better though if people are still getting caught in the morning? It clearly isn’t doing what it is supposed to. There are chronos at AP and people use them. I have known people to do so and then put a gun back in the bag because it is hot; my mate Tom did so recently. It is about the culture and ethos of the site; wankers don’t seem to last long there.1 point -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
mrfoxhound reacted to The_Lord_Poncho for a topic
No idea whether it was as a result of a hot gun (but as the thread has taken a bit of a swerve, i'll mention it anyway!), but the first game I wore my shiny new bolle X800 knock-offs (bought from a legit UK retailer), a BB launched from at least 20m away shattered the plastic fitting that the elastic strap was fixed to, and they pinged off my face in the middle of a pretty hefty assault on my position from the opposing team. I'm sure the lenses themselves could have taken a huge amount of abuse, but there are other weak points (and possibly those weak points are not actually subject to testing by the manufacturer against the various standards?). Super bad luck - definitely, but I now inspect any glasses I wear these days for similar such weaknesses.1 point -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg reacted to mrfoxhound for a topic
that half joule might be enough to compromise eye protection!1 point -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
That “rock ape” is possibly having to chrono 100+ players, many of whom have more than one gun to chrono. Having done that job at two different sites, you have to take some of what you are told on trust and assume that players have not dialed the hop up as far as it will go, which does leave the process open to abuse. However, the key point is that the vast majority of sites only look at the velocity limit for the declared weight. Random in game sampling including weighing of BBs is possibly the best approach and certainly provides a deterrent, especially when the penalty is to be sent home. One of the things that I really like about AP is that they stick to what they say in the briefing. Unlike so many sites, they do not hesitate to send people home if they ignore warnings about hit taking, MED abuse and other poor behaviour.1 point -
Umerax HK45 GBB Pistol
Lyndication reacted to Cannonfodder for an advert
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
mrfoxhound reacted to Cannonfodder for a topic
Ome of my old regular sites used to run in a similar fashion to how @Colin Allendescribed and didn't have marshals either and things ran fine. However I think it worked there as the site started as more like a group of friends meeting up to play rather than a commercial site. At the end of the day the only way to completely eliminate any chance of anyone cheating the chrono is for sites to provide all guns and bbs, but we all know that's not going to happen. What can be done though is to put in procedures which increase the chances of catching anyone tempted to try so they either don't bother or go elsewhere. That definitely rings a bell. Was the group TLA or ARABs?1 point -
Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Rogerborg reacted to Colin Allen for a topic
Err, no. If someone's gun chronos at 310fps and they state that they have 0.25s in their mag, but are actually running 0.30s, it is very likely that they are going to get away with it at most sites, because very few sites check the power in addition to the velocity. I use that example because I saw someone do it at a site; I ratted him out.1 point -
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You pay taxes at checkout on Aliexpress.1 point
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The 'What have you just bought' Thread
SilentSparky reacted to ButcherBill for a topic
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E&L AK12 for sale + extra mags
tside reacted to Alex89Type for an advert
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Should more sites weigh the bbs during chrono?
Nick G reacted to Lyndication for a topic
They should do mid game chrono checks where you empty your loaded mag for the BBs to be weighed. If it doesn't match the claimed weight then they hang, draw, and quarter you in the safe zone during the lunch break.1 point -
Mystery Boxes
Orangetwister13 reacted to Rogerborg for a topic
I guess you could ask which one gets you the most pound-weight per pound-sterling, as I can't think how else you'd compare them.1 point -
Mystery Boxes
Orangetwister13 reacted to Tommikka for a topic
The best mystery boxes are the ones I sell at comicons, which come from former loot type subscription boxes. Of those the smaller boxes are the better ones (better things - but that depends on whether or not you like the things) We were selling them as per their contents, but people prefer the ‘mystery’ and were buying total tat from mystery bags so we closed the boxes As @BigStew has noted, anyone selling mystery boxes/bags are shifting surplus/slow moving stock - and/or are getting in extra tat to tot them up1 point -
Mystery Boxes
Orangetwister13 reacted to BigStew for a topic
Mystery Boxes are just retailers way to get rid of stock they can't sell. Save your money and actually buy something you want/need.1 point -
Honestly, though I cant speak for anyone else, I would never touch a 2nd hand battery, especially if they have started becoming puffy. Chuck the puffy ones and try and sell the two that arent.1 point
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Gun picture thread
Egon_247 reacted to Cooperman26 for a topic
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