Super64 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 https://abc7.com/national-guard-imposter-gregory-wong-california/6227824/ WTAF 🤔 Anyone who doesn’t know him, Gregory Wong (Spartan117gw) is a bit of a name in the U.S. airsoft/firearms community. He has a number of YouTube videos and has worked with some big names in the airsoft and firearms world such as Travis Haley, Garand Thumb and Airsoft G.I. God only knows what he was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 4, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 4, 2020 What a spanner, pretty much reinforces what I've said all along, Airsoft YouTube celebs are just Walt's that have taken it to the next level of "waltness", clearly that wasn't enough for this plank, I hope he's ready for some serious jail time, cos that's where he's going. Maybe his next blog will be from the showers, where Big Rudy will show him the correct way to grip his weapon 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarrin Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Damn... he never struck me as the 'complete and utter moron' type, having said that I've never really liked the guy, he has an arrogant superiority complex that comes through from time to time in his videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Encore Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I suspect we;re eventually gonna hear that he was doing what he was doing to stand in solidarity with the national guard. Either was, stupid move on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 What a knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I believe hes ex military but yeh bad bad bad decision making process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarrin Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 I'm just looking into this case a little bit.. and while I can put zero stock in this as it is literally a youtube comment... I could totally buy it at this point in time - the case does sound like there is an element of something not quite right upstairs going on here: I knew Greg from my old Airsoft store I used to hang out at (AEX in Torrance, CA) I remember him talking with someone about him being discharged from the military for a Section 8. This might be an example of that section 8?? A section 8 is a discharge from the US armed forces for being mentally unfit for duty. Remember though, that's a youtube comment and means nothing.. however if it is true I would imagine the follow up reporting on the story would likely dig it up and mention it. Also I doubt being sectioned 8 categorises you as 'insane' or some other gradient of that meaning, perhaps you could get discharged on those grounds for depression or anxiety? though i don't know the fact of the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super64 Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 I’m sure California in general and Los Angeles in particular have quite strict firearms laws. If he’s cutting about with an AR-15 “loaded to the max” as they’re reporting, he could be in deep, deep do do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Not only that but if the reporting is true, having a 'ghost' gun (no serial) is illegal in all states and very serious. I haven't seen any of his YT content but I predict he'll be off air for a while... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted June 4, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 4, 2020 So Ill give some more information thats been gathered since Im US-based and have been following the release of information. Apparently he loaded up in full kit including NODs, armor, everything. Wore his old SG patch from his time in the 82nd. Took an Uber to his brother-in-law's store to defend it from looters. Saw the NG unit nearby, and this is where information starts to vary. The NG unit claims he walked up to them and stated that he was a part of their unit. They were instantly suspicious as this guy has about 40 grand in better equipment than NG get, his rifle was out of regs, NG dont get handguns and he had a tricked out one, and it wasnt a G17 or M17. So they start asking him questions about the unit, their CO, etc and he cant answer any of them. So they talk him into handing over his guns and hand him off to a LAPD unit as they arent sure what to do with him. Then it gets interesting. So as some of you might know, California has the most anal gun laws in the US. I wont get into Second Amendment rights and all that, but lets just say Cali does not like guns. And to own a firearm in Cali you have to adhere to a very strict set of requirements. You can not bring external parts into Cali, you can not modify guns, etc. Apparently Spartans AR was modified, had parts that were non-California compliant, and there have been people saying he had a "ghost" lower. This has been said to be several things, from a 3D printed lower, to a polymer lower with the serial number removed. So what are the various crimes committed here? Well, impersonating servicemen is Stolen Valor and a federal offense. Modifying a firearm is a state offense. Open carry is a state offense. And an illegal lower is a federal offense. Current estimates on his sentence really vary. Depending on the court and plea deal he may very well get away with a monetary fine and lose his ability to own a firearm (this is a guarantee of anyone convicted of a federal offense). Or, he could see up to a $60000 fine and up to 10 years total jail time, assuming sentences are concurrent. Courts often take a bit of leniency on Vets, but as its California they may very well try to bury him under the jail. Now on to things we do not know but are rumored. First off, after his arrest police raided his home and found evidence of his attempts to modify and sell illegal firearms. This has not been confirmed, and there are many who say they simply rolled up to his house, saw his gun wall of airsoft, and figured "well we got him big this time". It wouldn't be the first time people have been arrested over airsoft. If that is the case they will eventually be identified as such and wont matter. If he was indeed modifying firearms with intent to sell then we have a whole 'nother problem here. Second is the rumor that some guardsmen said something along the lines of "hey Wong, youre a cool cat, why dont you come down and hang out with use at the barricade". Again, no proof this happened, but Ive heard it mentioned by several sources. In the end it doesn't really change much as common sense should have told him that would be a bad idea, plus above modified weapons and open carry issues. If its true it might lead to those NGs getting a bit of trouble but nothing major. In the end, however, it was a very stupid thing to do. Unfortunately even if everything is dropped and he doesn't serve any time, he will be dropped by every company he works with, and will essentially have to find a new line of work. The reenactment groups he frequented have already started moving away from him, theres no doubt Magpul and the other firearm companies he speaks for will drop him, and the airsoft companies may very well do the same. He will be losing all his firearms and right to own a firearm, so thats all gone too. As my guys over at "A Very Serious Airsoft Podcast" said - "the best case scenario is that he was just very stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted June 4, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 4, 2020 What the hell did he think he was gonna gain pulling a stunt like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgePlaysAirsoft Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 14 hours ago, Adolf Hamster said: What the hell did he think he was gonna gain pulling a stunt like that? racism is one hell of a drug, think he did a liam neeson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Mankind is jumping head first into the drain. Wouldn't surprise me if he used the fact that he's asian to pull some funny shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 23 hours ago, Super64 said: I’m sure California in general and Los Angeles in particular have quite strict firearms laws. If he’s cutting about with an AR-15 “loaded to the max” as they’re reporting, he could be in deep, deep do do. The rifle he was carrying was made on a ghost home milled reciever and was non california compliant. He may have been arrested for impersonation but he will be going down for more than that. Edit: my source for that is a friend of his who knew his gun was non compliant. He made a video talking about the situation but has since taken it down probably because he incriminated himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 5, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 5, 2020 Whatever his intentions were, the fact that he's been making ghost guns, in a country/state that you can legitimately own most weapon types if your prepared to jump through a few "legal hoops" etc, says a lot about his mindset. Some have said he's a virtual ambassador for Airsoft over there, no wonder everybody's doing their best to distance themselves from him now, clearly he was a timebomb waiting to happen, thankfully on this occasion no one got hurt & his monster ego gave him away . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 As for why he was out there apparently him and 2 other guys were guarding a friends shop. His friends had the bright idea to leave their gear in the car until they needed it though. Please take what I say with a pinch of salt. I only got to watch the video once before it was taken down and my information may be misremembered. but the police have confirmed he was carrying an illegal assault rifle. Others are saying the pistol he was carrying was non compliant too due to mag capacity but I have no conformation on that bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super64 Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 Unfortunately, whatever the actual circumstances or reasons behind it, this is another of those situations that make airsofter’s and firearms enthusiasts look like a bunch of nutters. There are a load of people out there who don’t understand or want to understand a persons interest in firearms, both here and in the U.S. and these things just play right into their fears and concerns. I’m not surprised companies will start to distance themselves from him. Unfortunately for him this couldn’t have happened in a worse state. If it had been the majority of other states in the U.S. he would have just been one of many guys wandering around with AR’s. Of course, the fact that he’s apparently manufactured parts without serial numbers will mean it would be an unregistered gun, which I think is a felony in most states. Any way, it looks like he’s screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 5, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 5, 2020 23 hours ago, SeniorSpaz87 said: theres no doubt Magpul and the other firearm companies he speaks for will drop him, and the airsoft companies may very well do the same. He will be losing all his firearms and right to own a firearm, so thats all gone too. As my guys over at "A Very Serious Airsoft Podcast" said - "the best case scenario is that he was just very stupid." According to Travis Haley's insta they're "helping" him. If that means legal assistance or what I'm not sure but yeah...dumb AF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted June 5, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Lozart said: According to Travis Haley's insta they're "helping" him. If that means legal assistance or what I'm not sure but yeah...dumb AF. Interesting. That may mean theres less to this than has been announced. If they havent dropped him immediately then it may be that things are grossly overstated and it may not be a huge deal compared to what everyone thinks. Good news is that Ive seen very little in the news over him being an airsofter. A ton about him being a reenactor, but not an airsofter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Maybe with his past 'service' he can claim 'diminished responsibility' for the incident but the ghost gun thing is going to be more serious I imagine. Yeah Super64, if the media latch on to the airsoft connection they can certainly bring a lot of 'bad press' on it. 4 minutes ago, SeniorSpaz87 said: Good news is that Ive seen very little in the news over him being an airsofter. A ton about him being a reenactor, but not an airsofter. Ah, that's good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 5, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 04/06/2020 at 14:51, Zarrin said: I'm just looking into this case a little bit.. and while I can put zero stock in this as it is literally a youtube comment... I could totally buy it at this point in time - the case does sound like there is an element of something not quite right upstairs going on here: I knew Greg from my old Airsoft store I used to hang out at (AEX in Torrance, CA) I remember him talking with someone about him being discharged from the military for a Section 8. This might be an example of that section 8?? A section 8 is a discharge from the US armed forces for being mentally unfit for duty. Remember though, that's a youtube comment and means nothing.. however if it is true I would imagine the follow up reporting on the story would likely dig it up and mention it. Also I doubt being sectioned 8 categorises you as 'insane' or some other gradient of that meaning, perhaps you could get discharged on those grounds for depression or anxiety? though i don't know the fact of the matter. Section 8 isn't valid anymore. Sounds like it could just be standard rumour mill bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarrin Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, EDcase said: Ah, that's good to hear. Yeah, in a selfishly ironic kind of way i'm glad he was out there with an actual firearm and not one of his rifs - having said that, he'd be in way less trouble if that had been the case. 5 minutes ago, Lozart said: Section 8 isn't valid anymore. Sounds like it could just be standard rumour mill bollocks. Indeed, though I suppose whatever took it's place could broadly be called a Section 8 by the masses because of pop culture; I think I only know the reference because of Full Metal Jacket. I agree though, BS until proven otherwise... still not seen any real follow up reporting on the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 5, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 5, 2020 Apparently he's out on bail (which was set at $50k). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_W Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Looks like someone else impersonating a Police Officer. The two tone gives them away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted June 10, 2020 Supporters Share Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, John_W said: Looks like someone else impersonating a Police Officer. The two tone gives them away nah that's just the ukara police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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