Dentonboy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DrAlexanderTobacco Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Some assembly required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Don't forget your TM BBs for your new MK46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted September 27, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: Don't forget your TM BBs for your new MK46. are these full thrust compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: are these full thrust compatible? Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 148,000 Yen?????? Fuck that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted September 28, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 28, 2019 Yeah I was really interested in one of these but at the price it'll be over here (£1100-1200) I'll have to give it a miss unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 It's like meeting the cutest girl ever, only to realize she has a longer dong than your whole family tree combined. That fucking price though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted September 28, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 28, 2019 One saving grace is that it apparently comes with the bag from this image to keep it in Doesn't help much but it is something 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enid_Puceflange Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 They gotta pay for their marketing videos / propaganda somehow 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I’ll wait for A&K to clone it for 50p before I pay that much for an AEG. Speaking of A&K... what happened to their gbbr 249? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted September 30, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 28/09/2019 at 11:28, M_P said: One saving grace is that it apparently comes with the bag from this image to keep it in Doesn't help much but it is something 😂 It wants to come with a gun wallah to carry it around for that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 30/09/2019 at 09:22, Wo1f said: I’ll wait for A&K to clone it for 50p before I pay that much for an AEG. Speaking of A&K... what happened to their gbbr 249? yup, I can't tell you how fast I'd buy a GBB M249 if it was even half decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I think I am being thick and missing the point on this. I know its £1300 which is a lot of money to spend, however, this seems to have more uproar than the DAS or Systema's do and I'm not quite sure why? Its a recoil M249 which no other manufacturers produce yet. I only wont buy one because I don't play enough sites where I can use a support gun BUT if I did, I'd happily snap this up as I really like TM and the NGRS platform. I'd run it stock then upgrade as and when needed. I understand the top end models of NGRS are £650ish so I guess this is what people were hoping for but this is new design and again, they have no competition currently so can charge what they want. Anyway, I just don't understand the outcry when Systema is just an M4 which there is £100 versions of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: I think I am being thick and missing the point on this. I know its £1300 which is a lot of money to spend, however, this seems to have more uproar than the DAS or Systema's do and I'm not quite sure why? Its a recoil M249 which no other manufacturers produce yet. I only wont buy one because I don't play enough sites where I can use a support gun BUT if I did, I'd happily snap this up as I really like TM and the NGRS platform. I'd run it stock then upgrade as and when needed. I understand the top end models of NGRS are £650ish so I guess this is what people were hoping for but this is new design and again, they have no competition currently so can charge what they want. Anyway, I just don't understand the outcry when Systema is just an M4 which there is £100 versions of that I'm with you. I'm considering it at the around £1100-£1200 and not sure why other people are so shocked. It's a big piece of kit, has a MOSFET which the other NGRS guns don't and a new gearbox design specifically for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DrAlexanderTobacco Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Yeah agreed, plus once you factor in the (presumably) lower numbers per production run, prices will be higher respectively. It's not like every tom dick and harry will want one like they might a more practical AR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Does anybody know where the battery is stored btw? I'd really prefer it with the collapsible para stock, so I'm hoping the battery is in the box mag but I suspect it's in the stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DrAlexanderTobacco Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, RossF said: Does anybody know where the battery is stored btw? I'd really prefer it with the collapsible para stock, so I'm hoping the battery is in the box mag but I suspect it's in the stock. Stick AK type, hidden in the gas tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, DrAlexanderTobacco said: Stick AK type, hidden in the gas tube. Excellent, then presumably a para stock will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 It’s not so much the price, it’s the price for quality. I’ve spent stupid amounts on guns before like the VFC SR-25, but TM’s external materials on their AEG’s have always been shit. This is coming from someone who LOVES TM stuff and most of my Airsoft guns are TM.. however... the amount of broken receivers I’ve seen on the M4/416 NGRS series makes me not want to spend £1200 on it. I honestly could care less what the internals are like as they’re usually all stripped out anyway. I just want to know that the shell that’s holding it all together isn’t made of cheese. As for systema, they are just an overpriced ICS that trades on the “weapon training system” slogan, despite never actually being used by ANY police or military. gbls want £1500 for a gun that kicks less than my gbbr and doesn’t perform as well. It’s not even new technology. Top tech made a gun just like it and it used shells that ejected so it was more realistic if not impractical for about £500 ten years ago. For £1500 i can buy an mws and an NGRS of my choice and mod them to peak performance and have FAR more reliable RIFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, Wo1f said: It’s not so much the price, it’s the price for quality. I’ve spent stupid amounts on guns before like the VFC SR-25, but TM’s external materials on their AEG’s have always been shit. This is coming from someone who LOVES TM stuff and most of my Airsoft guns are TM.. however... the amount of broken receivers I’ve seen on the M4/416 NGRS series makes me not want to spend £1200 on it. I honestly could care less what the internals are like as they’re usually all stripped out anyway. I just want to know that the shell that’s holding it all together isn’t made of cheese. As for systema, they are just an overpriced ICS that trades on the “weapon training system” slogan, despite never actually being used by ANY police or military. gbls want £1500 for a gun that kicks less than my gbbr and doesn’t perform as well. It’s not even new technology. Top tech made a gun just like it and it used shells that ejected so it was more realistic if not impractical for about £500 ten years ago. For £1500 i can buy an mws and an NGRS of my choice and mod them to peak performance and have FAR more reliable RIFs. I’d only heard good things about their NGRSs? If this is the case then I’m a lot less tempted. Why would you want to strip out the internals? Especially in an LMG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, RossF said: I’d only heard good things about their NGRSs? If this is the case then I’m a lot less tempted. Why would you want to strip out the internals? Especially in an LMG? You don't have to strip out the internals, NGRS is perfectly usable 'stock'. People just like to upgrade because they can. It does perform better upgraded...but so do most things when done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted October 1, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SgtTalbert said: I think I am being thick and missing the point on this. I know its £1300 which is a lot of money to spend, however, this seems to have more uproar than the DAS or Systema's do and I'm not quite sure why? Don't get me wrong the price is fair in my opinion for what it is, and the work that goes into something like this. But irrespective of reasonableness that's a hell of a lot of money for a 'situational' weapon so is an no-go for me for that reason. I can't justify that for something I wouldn't use all day or often in general. The high end LMG market is pretty niche but these will sell, that I have no doubt of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossF Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, SgtTalbert said: You don't have to strip out the internals, NGRS is perfectly usable 'stock'. People just like to upgrade because they can. It does perform better upgraded...but so do most things when done properly. That’s what I mean, I get that you might want to bump up a rifle for accuracy, range etc. But when the purpose is to lay down a shower of fire surely the stock internals of a TM are more than adequate. I guess the justification is all relative right... for me if it’s full metal, good quality metal at that and performs well without modification and has a solid kick, it’ll be a fun weapon to add to the arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RossF said: I’d only heard good things about their NGRSs? If this is the case then I’m a lot less tempted. Why would you want to strip out the internals? Especially in an LMG? The NGRS perform fantastic out of the box and they look fantastic. My issue with them is their external feel and durability is a little lacking compared to a VFC or G&P AEG (or virtually any gbbr). I currently have a 416 delta custom tuned by @Davegolf and it’s a phenomenal bit of kit. Even at 340 FPS I can happily play the DMR/counter sniper role the range is that good. I just wish that when I picked it up I had that same faith I do with the MWS that if I drop it, it’s not going to break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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