IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 So i was watching a youtube video where “the airsoft tech” bypassed his fuse and i was wondering if thats ok? A fuse is a piece if wire that breaks/blows when too much current flows through it. So its used as a safety procaution. Common sense tells me itsa good idea to keep the fuse as it will prevent too much current from going into the motor and trigger connections making it less liking to damage them. However, ive read thing online where people say they have upgraded aegs and they dont use fuses for any of them and its fine? Is bypassing a fuse ok? Will it cause damage to the motor and trigger connections? Will the weapon perform better? Will the battery get damaged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Prisce Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 Steady on there Fella! You can’t use those sorta words around here! People will go ape! ”Common Sense”— lacking in every part of society in today’s world. Don't bypass the fuse, if you do and something goes wrong, your RIF could catch fire and melt. Some Mosfets have built in electronic fuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Prisce said: Steady on there Fella! You can’t use those sorta words around here! People will go ape! ”Common Sense”— lacking in every part of society in today’s world. Don't bypass the fuse, if you do and something goes wrong, your RIF could catch fire and melt. Some Mosfets have built in electronic fuses. Haha thanks 😂 i thought it wouldnt be a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Upon installing a Mosfet, I remove the fuse. Stock guns have fuses, but then again my Gen 3 JG G36 didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 i'll confess to not running fuses, but then i do have mosfets in all my guns. i wouldn't remove them if you don't have some other form of protection and you're confident in the integrity of the wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 Interesting... I have yet to find a mosfet manufacturer that DOESN'T say that the fuse should be kept in place after fitting. The electronic fuse in a mosfet (if it even has one) can fail in an unsafe condition, an electrical fuse cannot so in good conscience and erring on the side of caution and indeed common sense I would never recommend that an electrical fuse be removed. Of course, if you're willing to accept the level of risk associated with the potential failure of an electronic fuse then go for it, it's your toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 Not telling ANYONE to do it (my own personal choice) but I’ve always ditched the fuses as soon as I get a gun , never had any problems that anyone could have said “that faults was caused by stripping the fuse out!” Just saying . 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I also bodged the connectors together when the fuse blew in my MP5 for some unknown reason. I do prefer having them in. Its a low chance but if there's a short circuit without a fuse the battery could catch fire. Not heard of that ever happening tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Asomodai said: Upon installing a Mosfet, I remove the fuse. Stock guns have fuses, but then again my Gen 3 JG G36 didn't. 6 hours ago, Asomodai said: Upon installing a Mosfet, I remove the fuse. Stock guns have fuses, but then again my Gen 3 JG G36 didn't. Yes i would imagine that with a mosfet that would be acceptable. Im getting a spectre fet and i believe with that you can programme the amount of current you want to use. But dont quote me on that i havent research it enough but i feel like ive read that in the sales description 😂 6 hours ago, Lozart said: Interesting... I have yet to find a mosfet manufacturer that DOESN'T say that the fuse should be kept in place after fitting. The electronic fuse in a mosfet (if it even has one) can fail in an unsafe condition, an electrical fuse cannot so in good conscience and erring on the side of caution and indeed common sense I would never recommend that an electrical fuse be removed. Of course, if you're willing to accept the level of risk associated with the potential failure of an electronic fuse then go for it, it's your toy. I would imagine having a moseft will be ok to run no fuse. Personally im not sure if ill do that for the reasons of “precaution” just as you said. Better be safe than sorry i suppose. Thanks for the input 4 hours ago, Druid799 said: Not telling ANYONE to do it (my own personal choice) but I’ve always ditched the fuses as soon as I get a gun , never had any problems that anyone could have said “that faults was caused by stripping the fuse out!” Just saying . 👍 Thanks for your opinion it’s appreciated 3 hours ago, EDcase said: I also bodged the connectors together when the fuse blew in my MP5 for some unknown reason. I do prefer having them in. Its a low chance but if there's a short circuit without a fuse the battery could catch fire. Not heard of that ever happening tho. I heard the battery couls catch fire. So i think ill keep the fuse. Thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 I've removed the fuses from all my guns that had them. The only thing you have to keep in mind that when it stops firing, you don't pull the trigger again. And it's harder than you think. You will give it a few pulls to see WTF, then a few long-long pulls to "fix" it, and that's when it burns something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Samurai said: I've removed the fuses from all my guns that had them. The only thing you have to keep in mind that when it stops firing, you don't pull the trigger again. And it's harder than you think. You will give it a few pulls to see WTF, then a few long-long pulls to "fix" it, and that's when it burns something. Haha thanks for the heads up 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 If you are running a Spectre then remove the fuse. If I use any mosfet with an electronic fuse I remove the fuse as all leaving it in does is create another resistance point. Loz is right that an electronic fuse could fail but chances are highly unlikely and I have never seen it personally. Why a Spectre though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: If you are running a Spectre then remove the fuse. If I use any mosfet with an electronic fuse I remove the fuse as all leaving it in does is create another resistance point. Loz is right that an electronic fuse could fail but chances are highly unlikely and I have never seen it personally. Why a Spectre though? The reason why im choosing a spectre is because its bluetooth and i can connect it to my smart phone the titan mosfet isnt bluetooth so i think i need a computer/laptop. Also from what i read it seems good. Do you have any other suggestions? That may be better ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, IntelligentCelestialBeing said: The reason why im choosing a spectre is because its bluetooth and i can connect it to my smart phone the titan mosfet isnt bluetooth so i think i need a computer/laptop. Also from what i read it seems good. Do you have any other suggestions? That may be better ? Yeah the Titan you can still run it using a phone you just use the link cable supplied with the advance set. You download a handy little app and it is really easy to use. The Titan uses optical sensors rather than micro switches for the trigger which are far superior but then the whole set up is. Gate are easier to deal with than BTC if you have a problem and with the Gate dominating the market the spectre is basically a dead product. Btc can't compete as it is a small concern and Gate are a proper company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Yeah the Titan you can still run it using a phone you just use the link cable supplied with the advance set. You download a handy little app and it is really easy to use. The Titan uses optical sensors rather than micro switches for the trigger which are far superior but then the whole set up is. Gate are easier to deal with than BTC if you have a problem and with the Gate dominating the market the spectre is basically a dead product. Btc can't compete as it is a small concern and Gate are a proper company. Thanks man you saved me some money 😂 I mean I’m still gonna be out over £100 but at least it’s worth it I’m gonna get the Titan rather than spectre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Samurai said: The only thing you have to keep in mind that when it stops firing, you don't pull the trigger again. And it's harder than you think. You will give it a few pulls to see WTF, then a few long-long pulls to "fix" it, and that's when it burns something. Yup, I did that on my G36 when it locked up, because maybe on the next trigger pull it'll complete the cycle, it could happen. Aaaand the fuse popped, which is why it's there. The grip (i.e. the motor) was noticeably heating up by the time the fuse went. Lesson learned, I won't be doing it again, so I can probably get by without a fuse now. I'd hesitate to loan out an unfused gun though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 11, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Yeah the Titan you can still run it using a phone you just use the link cable supplied with the advance set. You download a handy little app and it is really easy to use. The Titan uses optical sensors rather than micro switches for the trigger which are far superior but then the whole set up is. Gate are easier to deal with than BTC if you have a problem and with the Gate dominating the market the spectre is basically a dead product. Btc can't compete as it is a small concern and Gate are a proper company. Gate are releasing a bluetooth version "soon" apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentCelestialBeing Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Lozart said: Gate are releasing a bluetooth version "soon" apparently... Have you heard when ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 12, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 12, 2019 4 hours ago, IntelligentCelestialBeing said: Have you heard when ? "soon" So your guess is as good as mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted June 12, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Lozart said: "soon" So your guess is as good as mine. On Gates past performance at soon that is probably about 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 12, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: On Gates past performance at soon that is probably about 2022 morning or afternoon? Only I've got a plumber booked in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted June 12, 2019 Moderators Share Posted June 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, Lozart said: morning or afternoon? Only I've got a plumber booked in... a plumber by 2022, someone's clearly been watching too much porn 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted June 12, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tackle said: a plumber by 2022, someone's clearly been watching too much porn 😜 I booked it two years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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