Robert James Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I know this video is not Airsoft, however places like eBay and other such sites sell rip offs of proper items all the time which us airsofters also buy. Most people on here follow the why compromise on your eye sight rule however, it's something to look out for at skirmishes etc https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2101922213198875&id=155240891200360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 They are branded as FMA and come from Hong Kong dealers etc Beware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Crystal Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 wow, that's a little shocking tbh... a sobering reminder to use reputable brands from reputable retailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Shizbazki Posted January 13, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2019 dang, saw this on a Facebook post and thought "WOW". Some people are willing to put profit over people safety first. I wouldn't mind so much if they made, bold, clear statements that this is "NOT FOR AIRSOFT/PAINTBALL" and state why but clearly they are selling it for the express purpose those activities. I for one am glad i have never taken chances with eye pro, full seal googles or masks all day from good reputable retailers and brands that are tried and tested. I mean i'll be honest, a decent Dyc i4 can be had for over £50 so its just a little bit more with guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted January 13, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2019 Great spot by those marshals. Given how cheap and effective polycarbonate is, I'm amazed that they managed to make one that couldn't stand up to that. I wonder if that's acrylic ("perspex") rather than polycarb ("lexan"). Bear in mind that in China, multiple companies poisoned babies by putting melamine in baby formula, just to turn a bit more profit. They just don't give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted January 13, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 13, 2019 And this is why repro eye protection is a shit idea. Get your goggles/ mask from a reputable retailer that is an accredited dealer of the brand you're looking for.... not eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 [devil's advocate] it can be tricky if for example they're intending primarily for selling to say the japanese market with a 1j limit but the product has then been re-distributed by private sellers into other markets where the limit is higher[/devil's advocate] of course even if you are in a country where there are lower limits doesn't mean there aren't sneaky cheaters out there running hotter so it pays to stay on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Adolf Hamster said: [devil's advocate] it can be tricky if for example they're intending primarily for selling to say the japanese market with a 1j limit but the product has then been re-distributed by private sellers into other markets where the limit is higher[/devil's advocate] of course even if you are in a country where there are lower limits doesn't mean there aren't sneaky cheaters out there running hotter so it pays to stay on the safe side. I can see where you're coming from with the joule thing, but many players don't know what that is. So you may read 300fps and think that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Robert James said: I can see where you're coming from with the joule thing, but many players don't know what that is. So you may read 300fps and think that's fine. indeed, it's disturbing the amount of times it's only been my own honesty that's kept me from being able to run 328fps on .3's or even .4's with the marshalls even commenting that it seems a bit low. and that's just a lack of understanding of energy let alone joule creep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 13/01/2019 at 00:50, Shizbazki said: Some people are willing to put cost over personal safety first. Fixed that for you. I've lost count of the number of times people have asked for eyepro recommendations and then gone and bought a £5 pair from ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Well keep buying cheap Chinese shit then. As always, it's the buyer, not the seller. Remember that retailers sell what the ignorant mass wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 I don't see (bad pun) why people spend £££'s on gear and then buy crap eyepro. I've looked on wish etc for Airsoft stuff but I'd never buy eyepro from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 “There dangerous ! Why aren’t they banned ! We need law’s against them !” This comes up time and time again in any safety equipment discussion , I say no don’t try and ban them or legislate against them or try and prosecuted the retailers (unless there knowingly selling duff goods as the real thing) there’s just no point , quite frankly it’ll cost too much and your going to be on a slow train to nowhere trying too achieve any of these goals . If the recognised genuine product is £80+ and the ‘un-branded’ one is £30 then as the old saying goes “you get what you pay for” and it is safe to say we all know the kind of player who’ll buy the all sing all dancing fan assisted guaranteed to never fog and will stop a charging rhino for only £5.99 goggles from fleabay can’t be told there shite as they know better than you so there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 14/01/2019 at 11:38, Druid799 said: the ‘un-branded’ one is £30 While bearing in mind that there's no reason why you couldn't make a fully protective mask for £30. The materials in it cost pennies, so even at that price it's being sold at a big mark up. What's gone wrong there is that the manufacturer has chiselled every single penny-cent-Yuan and used something other than polycarb, or has made it ludicrously thin. It can be tough to avoid this even for ethical importers. Bait and switch is a favourite trick in the Far East. Produce a decent sample, or small batch, then cheap out on the components once a big production run has been ordered. Or just hold the QC failures back until you get the contract. Mentioned in the Novrisch SSP1 thread: you order 50, they make 100 and give you the least bad 50. Then you order 1000, and they make another 950 and give you the lot, including the worst 50 from the first run. I've done point blank test shots on all my eye pro using 0.43g bbs, and I'd thoroughly recommend that everyone else do likewise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Shizbazki Posted January 14, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Lozart said: Fixed that for you. I've lost count of the number of times people have asked for eyepro recommendations and then gone and bought a £5 pair from ebay. Haha it was like 2am when i type that weary eyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Pretty much what’s been covered here, but the UKPSF & Dye have published a statement on the FMAs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_stylian_ Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Interestingly the FMA fan goggles are pretty good ans have been recommended on here. I use them and never had any issues other than DOA fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted January 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted January 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, _stylian_ said: Interestingly the FMA fan goggles are pretty good ans have been recommended on here. I use them and never had any issues other than DOA fans Yea my son has a pair as does a team mate , both really good bits of kit . i wonder if it’s due to the size of the lense compared to the goggles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdubyuh Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I can never ever understand people buying replica eye pro you can get a set of Bolle glasses for like £8 ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 I think people generally like the aesthetics of dye so if you can get them cheap why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, Robert James said: I think people generally like the aesthetics of dye so if you can get them cheap why not because it's not about looking tacticool it's about the actual protection they provide. If you want to look cool pay the premium for the quality product. I don't have a problem with copied kit but this is the one bit of kit that actually needs to be protecting you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Musica said: because it's not about looking tacticool it's about the actual protection they provide. If you want to look cool pay the premium for the quality product. I don't have a problem with copied kit but this is the one bit of kit that actually needs to be protecting you. Yes I know. Hence why I posted the original video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Robert James said: Yes I know. Hence why I posted the original video. was confused seemed like you were advocating getting the cheaper fake if people liked how it looked. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 No problem, I could have written it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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