complete noob here so please be gentle (thats what she said)

[sharpe]

hi guys and girls my names joe im 24, I live in Southampton, I am a complete noob to this sport iv only attended one skirmish which was in Portsmouth at the UCAP bunker, very close quarters was great fun and loved it only used a rental gun of theirs but its got me hooked, as it is my local im most likely be doing CQB more then any other form but im open to them all.

I've been reading through here about starting up and there is so much helpful information iv read so far.

just need to decide what gun to run thinking either a p90 or g36c but time will tell.

well I hope I don't become one of these annoying forum member that start pointless threads as I will be using the search bar first, well that's it for now hope to get to know some you guys better and get some helpful advice.

thanks for reading and please go easy on me.

[cavninja]

Welcome aboard mate, I'm pretty new to this too, been playing less than a year, The Bunker was the second place I played, I enjoyed it but I've played better since. I'm moving to Wimbledon soon, so the south east will be my home turf! I prefer CQB and urban to the more purely woodland sites, but I'm up for a skirmish anywhere really! This is a great forum with lots of really helpful and knowledgeable members, enjoy! might see each other on the field some day!

[Sitting Duck]

All of us were noobs at some point - I still am

tbh - I love being a noob coz there is $hit loads still to learn

keep the learning curve steep or life can get boring

 

Welcome to forum - kudos for knowing how to search - too many love be spoon fed

you seem to know a little and more importantly want to learn more like most of us

G36's are very popular in cqb & site rental guns but its all down to what suits you in the end

 

in here it is a little more relaxed and more noob friendly than some mega ultra serious tech sites

so less chance of getting flamed for asking dumb questions (my speciality dumb ar$e questions)

[n1ckh]

One thing to point out to you dude

 

1- dont post about ukara on the facebook page (just memes & insults)

2- read up on the debate about 'ukara & VCR act'

3- have fun & enjoy yourself

And

4- did I mention have fun &enjoy yourself

 

Ok ok that's more than 1 thing, I can't count with shoes on lol

[Josh95]

Hey man welcome

[Chock]

Welcome aboard

 

Everyone's a noob at some point, but not for long, so don't worry about asking stuff, there's no dumb questions. So ask away.

 

If you're doing CQB, obviously light and maneuverable is the thing. So gun-wise, small is good: UZI, Mac 10/11, MP5K, P90, AKS74U, Skorpion, short M4, tactical shotgun etc. Keep in mind that some CQB sites are semi-auto only, and those that aren't may still have a semi-auto only rule at short ranges, so avoid anything that can't go semi-auto, such as the ASG STEN gun (well, not without modification anyway), which would otherwise be a good CQB choice. Also be aware that many small SMGs such as the UZI and the Skorpion have high rates of fire and comparatively small mags, which can easily leave you out of ammo at an awkward moment, whereas most things like an AEG MP5K or AEG AKS74U, will come with a high cap mag (typically something like 300 rounds), so there's less expense initially in not needing to buy spare mags straight away, and the likelihood is that the one high cap mag will last the entire fight without the need to reload.

 

Most people and most guides will tell new players to not worry about a pistol until later, and whilst that is generally good advice, in CQB, a pistol is a good thing to have to hand, and you could even go pistol only at some small CQB sites. But, it being winter, gas blowback pistols can be iffy choices, since they can struggle to work well in cold temperatures, so if you are considering a pistol, then either a non-blowback gas one is a better choice, since they are cheaper and more efficient on gas, or more preferably, an electric semi-auto pistol, since they'll perform okay all-year-round whether it is hot or cold. At a push you can use a cheap cock and fire springer pistol, but it's slower and not ideal, although they do have the virtue of being reliable and inexpensive.

 

A plastic knife is also a good thing for CQB, since although you can touch someone with your hand and say 'knife kill' at most sites, and it will count, one thing you cannot do is throw your hand, whereas obviously you can throw a plastic knife, and as with a BB, a hit anywhere on someone with a thrown knife will count as a kill. Make sure anything you do buy has a bendy plastic/rubber blade though, or you will not be able to use it.

 

Similarly, grenades can be a game-changer in CQB. But be sure to check with your regular site as to which kind are permissible (typically that will be BFGs - blank firing grenades - but check anyway). they can be pricey, so make sure that if you do get one, you don't get one that is something you cannot use at your local site, for example, some pyro grenades cannot be used at sites where there is combustible material such as curtains in the place.

 

If you get a tactical vest or webbing, be sure to get something that you can easily open and close the pouches on when it's cramped and dark (as it often is in CQB). Practicality wins over cool looks every time. Ebay and Amazon are the place to look for inexpensive ones. Worry about getting cool top notch crap later on.

 

Get a small portable torch. You can mount a tac light on your weapon, and that's a good idea in CQB, but a small torch is also good to have for things like reloading and such.

 

Make sure you wear full face protection and cover your neck, a helmet is good too, but a baseball cap will suffice. You will take more hits to the head than anywhere else in CQB, and at those kind of short ranges, even a sh*tty cheap springer pistol will fire a BB fast enough to smash a tooth out. An Arabian Keffiyah (shemagh) scarf will provide good neck protection, and you really do want to cover your neck, because a BB hit on your Adam's Apple will make your eyes water, and it will also draw blood.

 

Take a small water bottle, even in winter you will dehydrate when running and diving about all over the place.

 

Consider knee and elbow pads. CQB sites invariably have hard concrete floors, and that will hurt your knees if you kneel down behind cover. failing that, consider wearing long johns under your combat pants, they will help to stop hits hurting so much, will keep you warm in the present winter and will also provide additional protection from hit, bumps and bruises.

 

Gloves are not a bad idea too. Your hands will take hits, since they are generally exposed to fire because you are holding your weapon with them, and a BB hit on the fingernail in cold weather will hurt like a motherf*cker. Any old thin leather gloves from a cheapy shop will do, but make sure they are a snug fit so that you can operate your weapon's safety catch easily.

 

Hope some of that helps. You'll be an old hand in no time, but when it comes to buying gear, think carefully and don't let your heart rule your head. Almost everyone who starts out ends up buying some crap that they later don't use or regret having bought, so be sure to ask on this site if you are unsure about whether anything is a good or bad choice. Airsoft gear may not be free, but good advice is, and there is plenty available from the people on here.

 

Have fun and enjoy it. It's a really cool hobby to have and one which will let you do many cool things.

[sharpe]

wow such a warm welcome thank you guys lots of really useful information there chock I'm swinging towards the p90 but I know there are hit and miss opinions on the high cap mags as they apparently tend to jam, but regarding equipment I don't plan to spend fortunes buying it I already use a good pair of boots for work so I use them for airsoft too, definitely going to be looking into BFG's as my local site aloes them to be used.

[Cheeky vimto]

Don't suppose you work on the docks?

[sharpe]

no mate I don't

[Happy]

Welcome to the forum mate!

 

P90s can be brilliant depending on the brand but being a bull pup they shoot further than you think. If I wasn't trying to downsize my arsenal I'd probably have one of them myself. Like Chock pointed out - a pistol is a good choice for CQB. Even a cheap springer is enough at a push since most engagements can be very close range.

 

I wouldn't recommend throwing a plastic knife at people though - most sites don't take too kindly to it and may see you banned for doing so.

[Airsoft_Mr B]

If you're looking into BFGs I dunno what everyone else thinks but the TRMR seems to be the best out there. No spoon or pin to get lost and uses 12 gauge primers which are inexpensive. A high initial price but works out cheaper than buying individual one-use pyros in the long run.

On a lower budget (because £80 is obvs a lot to spend on just a grenade) there's the Hakkotsu Thunder-B. They're £25 off AirsoftWorld.

Welcome to the forums by the way mate it's really helpful to be a member on here noob or not and a great community

[Chock]

I wouldn't recommend throwing a plastic knife at people though - most sites don't take too kindly to it and may see you banned for doing so.

 

This is true at some sites, but most sites I've been to (including Trojan and First and Only's sites) cover knife use in the briefing, and that includes being allowed to throw knives, only specifying that knife throws, like grenades, have to be underarm, and knives have to be the bendy training sort. After all, if you can fire a BB at 500 fps at someone, a bendy plastic knife, tossed underarm, is hardly likely to do worse. It's probably more common to see it at CQB sites than woodland ones though.

 

But obviously, if they say it's a no-no at the briefing, then don't do it. As with any practice at an airsoft site, if you are unsure whether it is allowed, ask at the briefing, not later on with a marshall, since if you ask at the briefing, everyone will hear it and be clear on whether it is, or is not allowed.

[clumpyedge]

If you're looking into BFGs I dunno what everyone else thinks but the TRMR seems to be the best out there. No spoon or pin to get lost and uses 12 gauge primers which are inexpensive. A high initial price but works out cheaper than buying individual one-use pyros in the long run.

On a lower budget (because £80 is obvs a lot to spend on just a grenade) there's the Hakkotsu Thunder-B. They're £25 off AirsoftWorld.

Welcome to the forums by the way mate it's really helpful to be a member on here noob or not and a great community

 

 

blankfiringgrenade.co.uk are also doing £65 deal on timed grenades at the moment (12g, 9mm and .209 Ready)

 

http://blankfiringgrenade.co.uk/epages/8d036429-e890-484e-a100-a8a2511a5e38.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/8d036429-e890-484e-a100-a8a2511a5e38/Categories/12/9

[SeniorSpaz87]

Hey man, if you can make it to The Mall's Sunday game on the 22nd, ou can test out my P90 at their range. Also, the rental guns are all G36s, so you could test both out there. Also, it is warm enough inside for GBBs.

[Colonel Kurtz]

If your getting a P90 save up abit and get the Tokyo Marui High Cycle

 

Has served me very well in CQB and even those that dont like marmite/p90 cant argue with its performance

 

Simply the best P90 out there and sooo glad i saved and spent the extra.

 

Only downside is you'll see/hear everyone else talking about upgrading their guns and you wont have to, and tinckering is fun.

[sharpe]

been awhile since I posted up on here thanks for all the comments and suggestions, now that iv finally got membership to UCAP iv purchased a second hand G&G ump (umg) pictures to follow tomorrow, i paid £200 it came with a holo sight, 4 mags (2x mid cap 2xhigh caps) a 2 point sling and a lipo battery. iv purchased a ultrafire c8 its abit big but it works for now.

i really want to do is get it to fire tracer rounds (handy for my local sight) but as iv found out the ump has no treaded barrel tip so a suppressor type tracer unit is abit out of the question, my question is does any one know if there is a hop up type tracer that's available for the ump or is this going to be a custom job? or will i just have to get a machine shop to thread the tip of the barrel?

with all of that is there any other suggestions you guys have that would improve the weapon at all ?

thanks guys

[Sacarathe]

http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/madbull-ultimate-3-in1-hop-up-chamber-unit-with-led-module

 

As a proof of concept, nothing more.

[Raggedy_man]

Welcome to the Forums, I'm a recent noob and constantly ask bone questions which the folk are kind enough to answer with wisdom and patience....

It's a great hobby and don't be afraid to ask!

 

 

Have fun and see you on the Battlefield.

[Colonel Kurtz]

been awhile since I posted up on here thanks for all the comments and suggestions, now that iv finally got membership to UCAP iv purchased a second hand G&G ump (umg) pictures to follow tomorrow, i paid £200 it came with a holo sight, 4 mags (2x mid cap 2xhigh caps) a 2 point sling and a lipo battery. iv purchased a ultrafire c8 its abit big but it works for now.

i really want to do is get it to fire tracer rounds (handy for my local sight) but as iv found out the ump has no treaded barrel tip so a suppressor type tracer unit is abit out of the question, my question is does any one know if there is a hop up type tracer that's available for the ump or is this going to be a custom job? or will i just have to get a machine shop to thread the tip of the barrel?

with all of that is there any other suggestions you guys have that would improve the weapon at all ?

thanks guys

 

The madbull hop-up doesn't give anywhere near the same lvl of glow as a silencer tracer. Not even sure if it'd fit in a UMP, dunno what kind of hop-up it comes with. Prob best off getting the barrel threaded, or better - finding a replacement that'll fit.

[sharpe]

 

The madbull hop-up doesn't give anywhere near the same lvl of glow as a silencer tracer. Not even sure if it'd fit in a UMP, dunno what kind of hop-up it comes with. Prob best off getting the barrel threaded, or better - finding a replacement that'll fit.

that's what I thought I'll have to do some research into it then

 

as it looks at the moment ☺

[Colonel Kurtz]

Looks like it's got some kind of flash-hider on the end, sure that doesn't come off (might have a tiny screw keeping it fixed, then threaded on) hopefully that's the case then you just need to get a thread adapter to 14mm CCW (might be a 12mm CW on the outter barrel if that flash hider does come off)

[K@rl]

Welcome! Am sure everyone will go easy and be help full....... Until game on!

[K@rl]

Welcome! Am sure everyone will go easy and be help full....... Until game on!

[sharpe]

Looks like it's got some kind of flash-hider on the end, sure that doesn't come off (might have a tiny screw keeping it fixed, then threaded on) hopefully that's the case then you just need to get a thread adapter to 14mm CCW (might be a 12mm CW on the outter barrel if that flash hider does come off)

theres no grub screw and on doing research all over the net it turns out its machine pressed on the barrel so if I did manage to get it off then its not treaded so may have to take it to a machine shop to get it treaded, as much as it sounds abit extreme but my local sight is the bunker so its pretty dark down there and a tracer would be so helpful even if I mix it up as a 50/50 of normal and tracer BB's

[Colonel Kurtz]

Ah well, machine pressed - boo! Can fully appreciate the need for tracer, i'd go nuts if i couldn't see where my shots were actually hitting at The Mall

 

Seems like you got 4 options;

 

Buying the G&G UMP QD silencer (for like £50) and then doing some serious surgery to combine a tracer with it or turn the part of the silencer that clips directly to the flash-hider into an adapter (yikes)

 

Try to find/have made a threaded outer barrel replacement (gotta be something that'll fit out there...)

 

Getting a madbull ultimate hop-up to fit and perhaps modding some mags yourself to have LED in too (at least prob possible unlike modding the G&G silencer)

 

Buy/use another gun that does have a threaded barrel