Sitting Duck

Turn up in whatever ya like I guess - though some sites are a little more serious or military themed than others Generally getting a good loadout is very practical and looks the part but not an absolute must - heck spend a fortune if you like then play underground bunker cqb (then peeps can't see f*ck all in front of them let alone if the guy next to them has the "proper" kit on) are you gonna get shot by some 12yr old - yup and he probably has a bright orange 2-Tone pity - nah not really. You could say we are all 12yr old kids trapped in various aged bodies ( nearly 4 x times over moi ) I would bet that you you may not be ultra serious you probably would enjoy the general semi-serious sites out there Your experience may assist you but also so will an open mind to get out there & enjoy yourself The breifing especially safety is important, then go with the flow, watch the regulars and all that They generally know the best strategies and ideas..... You go with the idea to have fun, forget your K-D bollox and enjoy your day out coz you probably get hooked

Not gonna say much except only went once and that was enough expensive, mega ego's (both players n marshals), way too serious "win at all costs" competitive not gonna go on - might just be bad 1st experience but deffo not my cuppa tea I thought

Yeah bad there is a little them/us between rental/younger players........ Must confess I never really notice it much myself - think only the non-hit takers get bitched about (alas this "usually falls into younger nooby rental players" - well if it don't then there is no excuses ya cheating ol' bastids) Hate snobbery in any form - but alas we can all be a little like that and pre-judge from time to time Funny thing is - the snob's probably fail to see the advantages from younger rentals If your site was suddenly flooded one weekend by some proper hard core pro airsofters that completely and utterly wiped the site's floor with those snobbish w@ankers..... Boy - would they THEN have something to moan about..... If "they" were that f*cking good themselves then perhaps they too should man up a little & try next level over 18's only, dedicated players on the way way more serious and tactical sites around Alas though very often in this world people take the pi$$ out of others to detract from people taking pi$$ out of them (me I just take the pi$$ out of myself - get in before anyone else does - jeez its a toy gun game) soz you had the odd bad remark - most of us are not like that and even if you & me are not so outstanding at this sport in reality so often you have to take the noobs with good, as long as they don't throw the game so what ffs ??? I often thought when me & others Vs the more experienced players we was just cannon fodder target practice stuff but those guys were always ok - so your lot are just a few ar$es who probably ain't really as good as they think they are don't worry - heck I would wear a hi vis vest loadout and follow them around like glue if I was on their team just to pi$$ them off, or make a point of camping it out and wait to take that particular bastid out near the base (don't do that - that is being silly but thoughts like this do cross my mind from time to time) Try to stick at it, think if you keep at it they will see you are a little more dedicated, can take the odd bit of pi$$take as well as ya hits, act sensible & mature = basis or start of a good sportsman/team member... if not then go with my silly ideas to really pi$$ them off - no still a joke - try another site

is why I said a new build is perhaps the biggest bollock ache at least if replacing old stuff and its crap after new parts, you can re-try the old stuff (then compare new part to old (wise to check any bits before fitting I guess) On a new build there is no 101% guarantee all $hit will work well together tappet plates - had to trim one at back coz it came very close to hitting bevel gear spindle on a crappy SRC box soz - got it wrong - SPUR gear not bevel - that thing majig one in middle I call it nozzles - jeez there is loads of tiny discrepencies M4's can be 21 to 22 with a bit either way but think SHS M4's are about in middle @ 21.47mm (AK short 19.5 to AK long 20.5) poor sod - I do not envy him one bit coz major trial n error but he is making progress it seems

Must be the Viagra version - smutty chuckle soz derailing post again

Indeed - my two arrived and deffo very pleased many thanks for this squire and doing all the middle-man crap posting and bollox what-not etc..... fanx again

either will do but last one is cheap and "seems" to be in UK BUT - however clicking on tz-electronic says he is/was a member based in China so it "may" not arrive exactly as you might be lead to think That said - I've ordered a couple of bits and they arrived very quickly - under about 5 days from a "UK" labelled china seller so he could of had a warehouse in Manchester say... Only reason I'm pointing this crap out is coz its gonna be Chinese New Year soon and stuff can grind to a halt for 7 to 10 days in the far east so maybe do a little research first if you are expecting it soon any fast type helmet - even a cheapo snidey one will increase your airsoft cred atm (my wife calls me loads of names too - and that is without the bellend "u look like a nob" look)

nozzle does look a tiny bit pointing upwards as Lozart said That is a QD box with microswitch, normally sold as complete units though you can buy a bare APS box with 8mm bearings Just saying coz you are trying to install parts that may or may not be truely compatible with that particular box I would like to see a shs tappet/nozzle and "maybe" head in there as they are quite good all round cheap bits that seem so far go in very well in most boxes..... Yeah the tappet getting mashed like that ain't good - me thinks nozzle might wanna be a tad longer (just coz nozzle length looks ok but the box or end of box "could" be sited sat 0.5mm further back so you may be losing a good perfect seal on bucking) check what others said about checking for absolute airtight seal on nozzle to hop BUT you are getting there - now up to 250 - bastid new builds

It is good to know that even I and may one or two others perhaps jumped on bandwangon a bit At least it is good to know that we all feel quite passionately about protecting the sport we all enjoy & love (ahh bless on Valentines day too - feel the love) All friends still Oh and welcome to forum m8 btw - lol

Google up FAST helmet's they go for about £40 to £60 but you can get from poland/china for about £25ish http://gunfire.pl/product-eng-1152206590-FAST-PJ-CFH-Helmet-Replica-Foliage-Green-L-XL-.html Much more - "pro" looking, my son nicked my one and I am left with the "bellend looking" one but hey it protects my receeding hairline bald head from getting scratched to f*ck on branches n stuff

Cool m8 The first line(s) was slightly misleading, we have a lot of "guests" / kids looking for loopholes or how to get RIF's easily which is not good for the sport I said soz for my foolishly failure to absorb the whole facts, like I said one seller on here I would nigh on bet my ar$e fully checked and verified you legit (soz if I jumped to a possible conclusion on the other seller may not of) All the UKARA / VCRA stuff causes friction at best of times but to be fair it really is how the owners of such items conduct themselves that really matters in the long run nice kit - and sorry for pre-judging you and not taking time to read the whole thread first (forgive this old fool that really should know better than judge books by their covers)

I retract all I said..... soz to OP for jumping on bandwagon helmet is the bellend type though if he dealt with one or two peeps on here.... One is a very upstanding person so that settles it for me the OP is above board / defense etc.... (post was misleading - one week and all that - RIF stuff, implies you just started) soz for being a dick and jumping to conclusions - my very very bad but yeah get a better helmet to go with ya good stuff

OK - serious suggestion but how about giving Fire-Support a ring and asking them very very very nicely if they can measure the G&G one ??? (will save ya buying a genuine one & measuring it or take box apart again) Only going by pics but deffo don't look like D Boys 29mm, They (G&G) may have decided to build it all around their convential M4 stock of parts, unsure what other non-M4 models may be using though but could kinda make sense however here is a ROUGH list of nozzles and their range of lengths (say rough range coz it really really can vary a bit as you already know) AK's 19.6mm to 20.7mm (short or long versions but these nozzles can really vary) MP5 20mm to 21mm - no step or ridge P90 20mm to 21mm - no step or ridge M4's 21mm to 22mm to just under 22.5mm M14 23mm - no step or ridge SR25 23mm to 24mm G36 24mm - no step or ridge AUG 25mm SCAR Boyi - 29.15mm SHS Red M4 nozzle - there are at least 2 types One has 1 x O-ring and other has a double or 2 x O-rings (both are nigh on exact same size when put side by side but slightly different ending at nozzle tip) NB - is really only a very very rough guide I threw together and that is taking the description's specs (which can be way out anyway - so don't flame if I'm talking out my ar$e once more but just a start)

9.6v but my son often runs with these on stock M4's, we have a few of them (vapex 1600's) they seem to do ok unless your battery has a moody cell in there (binned one of these in stick variety coz it was getting very warm on charge but dies very very quickly) blimey what beefy-ness ya done to ya gun - still if ya buying a new one get a good one that will more than fill ya boots

Good Mask - a must extra mag if possible & some duct tape (tape them together - yeah cheesy COD/BLOP but it works and ya packing nearly 1k bb's) Some ol boots & Get the hell out there !!!! all the pukka loadout stuff can come later - get shooting

Ya Lonex m110 should be putting you way over the normal 360fps-ish on .20's (they are a quality spring - must be coz Lozart uses them - lol) So that spring should be giving you out of this world propulsion really (can't convert say 370-ish might be on 0.25's but gotta be near 300 min) The whole Cylinder - Barrel volume Ratio is at best like an Oen University Maths course even them quick calculator prgrams seem open to flaws & misinterpretation each tooth is about 3mm in pitch so the full stroke would be about 48mm (yeah maths bit of 2xradius x Pi x length is giving me a f*cking headache too) plus all this is only ever a rough guide coz weird curveball setups present themselves now n then Suppose why experienced GunSmiths stick to a certain "tried n tested" & compatible parts list That optimum barrel - cylinder ratio setup is so easy to upset & go out of balance with too much/little air volume giving you really f*cking odd weird results Double check everything - sounds silly but ensure tappet spring is on correct way pointing down to switch as it can drag on tappet plate if installed upside down as you tried a full cylinder maybe see if you have a tiny slightly longer nozzle or compare to nozzle especially how well it seals when pushed fully home into hop-up try a shorter barrel too - soz to add more crap to try out but may produce different results and then based upon these people may be able to accurately narrow it down a little more (people way way way more experienced that this noob)

that is perhaps one area to look into on a 430mm barrel really think ports should be futher back or full if ya did AOE and lost a little bit of final air compression

AOE will not lose much overall fps - maybe 10 to 15fps you never really lose any teeth like in short stroking The first tooth on sector still picks it up at initial large pick-up on piston The sector continues to pull the piston back and engages perfectly fine on the other teeth even though the second tooth is missing and the 3rd tooth is shaved a little or a bit lower The sector gear still picks up on the 4th tooth and continues on its merry way What you have lost is the start/final resting postion of about 5mm from AOE The actual piston is still being pulled back by 16 teeth on sector gear but the start/return is shorter it isn't quite the same as short stroking which if you chop off 1 tooth that 3mm tooth is when the piston is at its highest tension point and you do lose 15fps easily on each last tooth or two From what you are saying it sounds like a mixture of seals on hop/nozzle perhaps plus the cylinder is maybe for a 300 to 363 barrel you say you have a 430 and I feel barrels in the 450mm region is getting close to max reliable propulsion of air on a "normal" cylinder - 500mm + requires bore-up or the longer 19 teeth cylinder/piston So feel that a 430 barrel would of needed very close to a full or very nearly full type cylinder This build is made more difficult as it is a clean fresh build and still a lot of parts may not be perfectly suited nozzles just on M4's vary anything from say 20.5mm to 22.5mm and that alone can be totally messing ya up Worst thing is you got no fall back on how it WAS running ok-ish as in a box you are tweaking or upgrading So a complete new build can be far more prone to compatibility problems than a previously tweaked one Cylinder Ratio can leave you to lose about 60fps but as you are so way way down me thinks it is probably also seal related to be that far out perhaps as well Take all this crap with pinch of salt coz I am still learning as I go and very much a humble noob myself

No but my m8 Nobby down the pub, knows some guy who.............. Measure the old one coz there quite a few variations out there some seem "similar" to M4's - pah that's a joke M4's can be anywhere from 21mm to 22.5mm seriously some reports say long bastid mofo's about 29mm http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/classic-army-bore-up-air-nozzle-for-scar-series but the proper G&G one don't look nothing like a longer nose 29mm type: http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gg-jet-nozzle-air-nozzle-for-gg-scar the above mofo don't look very long to me.... G36's & SR25's are a touch longer than M4's - getting to 24mm APROX !!!! so really can't help ya with EXACT TRUE DEFFO I HAVE DONE THAT example if ya measure the old G&G nozzle then some of us might be able to search/hunt or even check what "might" be near that (G&G - ain't they in Taiwan not China btw - but same meat different gravy)

APS UAR 501 - this is deffo my lot for a while now TWG got another batch in & at about £101 I couldn't say no But deffo gotta ease up a bit

I like the punisher - god will judge our enemies we will arrange the meeting purely from a clever notation or statement, I've seen numerous patches & T-shirts being worn in fact only reason I haven't bought it is purely coz I'm so crap at the sport that is the ONLY reason I feel I am not worthy to wear something like that - coz I'm crap Otherwise if I was a better player I do feel I would have it myself - coz I think it looks good and I like it if it offended anybody in particular then I would remove but to be honest I really like it myself understand the need to avoid offending any ex-service reg or platoons though but punisher - nah I like it besides I'm playing toy soldiers in UK with toy guns ffs

thank f*ck for that I was gonna dig out some crap stuff and sell ya 2 x 500's or something if you was really really desperate but thankfully you came to your senses....... Honestly m8 - if you managed to avoid buying crap the first time you had a lucky escape You will never know just how pi$$ poor some $hite is...... £30 posted minus say best part of say £8 = £22 £22 gun the guy is desperate to sell probably like me it is an embarresment just taking up room but it ain't even got the complete stock with battery cover (pi$$ poor HK416 bad look alike) so you can't even say it is worth that in parts - it ain't even that A decent v2 box will be £40 & G&G box probably a little more say £50...... Ya kinda getting an idea on how much better the "next step up" really is over a crappy plinker Just telling ya straight - not gonna slander any shop or owners of plinkers but trust me you had a very close lucky escape - alas I wasn't so lucky and many others like us on here were perhaps mislead a little and regretted it £90 G&G, nice gun and one I'm sure will do you right and be much happy with it as it way more superior