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Google up some videos on opening ver 2 boxes...... One tip is a magnet under AR - ta Samurai, helps to keep Anti Reversal latch in place (esp when closing up box) Would advise popping it in a plastic bag to catch the stuff as it explodes (more likely to happen if spring is halfway coked) But very often the first time most of us opened up a box - $hit goes everywhere (still sometimes does but not that often) yup - do some pre checks before opening - the nozzle moving is a good sign gears are still turning but piston can strip or even snap off the initial tooth.... motor height or even motor's gear can be stripped or came loose on shaft I have seen there are number of things to go pear shape but it is just a load of nuts n bolts meccano set really Clear a table that you can use for a few days - you may need to get a part or two Take your time - watch a few videos, clean it, replace and ensure any parts are same size & operate really smoothly, no catching or binding Take as much time as you need if you re-shim it - there is no race on shimming time - it is one of the most important things when ya happy it all seems to work again - re grease & the fun bit, re assemble (a couple of dry runs without spring to get used to closing up box is a good idea) keep all screws n crap together or back in their holes or in a few pots etc..... (times I've seen an ar spring just vapourise into thin air over night) seriously if you take your time and using a little common sense it is not as hard as it sounds it ain't easy at first attempt but like most things the more you have a go at it the more you will learn & gain Besides - if it all goes bollox - you can either send it off or just say to hell and buy another v2 box anyway There is a sticky about with loads of peoples tips on servicing gearbox's well its somewhere on here with more hints n tips http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/19-gearboxes/

on a more expensive/mid range gun and if you have no previous experience it would be very wise to contact shop and speak to them. a clean barrel would help a little but 313 is a little low when usually they on about 330-ish however - that is on 0.20's I presume - had to ask just in case I would speak to them if she was 313 brand new out of box, they might tweak it up a bit for next to nothing (I say might - you can only ask and say you was expecting a little more from a higher end G&G) Well If I had flogged you it I'd be inclined to consider it for cost of parts/postage to keep customer happy or see if I have a more oomphy one in stock - thought they would of chrono'd it which they might have and is a tough line to walk if shop sells you a gun @ 345 & your site limit is 328 It ain't bad 313 - at least it is safe to use but if you wanna use heavier bb's like .25 etc... then you probably will wanna get closer to 350 if that is your site limit (but some sites do operate a 328 or 340 limit so be aware if you are gonna visit other sites) Contact shop and ask but tbh don't worry too much about that small drop - maybe in 3-6 months yeah but some of the best TM's shoot at 300 or below and proof it ain't all about fps if she is firing ok and your range & accuracy is good for you then leave it as is put a few full day skirmishes through it and see how she goes (you could get it changed and end up with a 345 gun but a lemon or not so accurate one is what I mean) FPS is not the be all n end all to shooting well - it helps but there is lot more to a good gun that just fps is what I mean

oops never notice da choice/poll options

http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/airsoft-magazines-c3/high-capacity-c51/dytac-300rds-bravo-magazine-for-m4-aeg-black-box-of-10-p3058 I know I keep banging on about these but metal hi-cap mags for just over a fiver each get a m8 to go halves or sell 5 of them they do sell 5 in a set but 5 for £43 or 10 for £51 - you do the maths (postage is about £6 to include in total price but still a great buy) I have bought various cheapo basic mags - even 500 rnd ones from china & poland and they were crap or not very good needing to be wound for ages for just 6 to 10 shots then wind like f*ck again Those ones feed very well - lets say I have bought more than one box when those last 2 boxes of ten go - they took around 4 or 5 months to get them back in IMHO these are the ones to get for hi-caps and the ASG mid-caps seem to be the mid-caps to get

well the CNC box with Seigtek DSG is going in my JBBG B500A1 - kidding Small update - did half day on Saturday and she still works !!!! To be fair - only probably used about 1.5k that afternoon, was hoping to go mental but started out well but got taken out on last game early and was a long game but had some fun with it all the same..... The cheapo DE 901c mags struggle to feed well when pushing 30rps on 9.9v got a jam and though crap not again - but cleared and stuck at 7.4v after that plus stock piston/spring has that crappy metal spring clip/mount in it so it ain't ultra light so not pushing 11.1v & Pre Engagement Also above 7.4v she likes to try & double fire on semi with a standard non braking fet So yeah keep her on 7.4v is the message me thinks on this one still plastic m901c gearbox and metal BD m160 motor = 24.8rps on fresh 7.4v probably 8.5v aprox (that is 3 x faster rof & aprox 100fps more than crap stock box & motor) Got a few peeps asking about it - where did you get that ??? They lost interest when I told them what & where it came from - lol Real shame the hop is a bit crap, still over hopping on .25's a little range is a tiny bit better than a regular G&G out of box - shoots a tiny tiny bit to left & crappy sights offer next to no adjustment Alas due to the build/design of cheap plastic receiver it has to come apart - which I knew, to replace with a better hop Had fun all the same when enemy popped their head up from behind cover - "Ave some of thaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttt" Deffo can have some fun with it but was a little worried about tripping ar$e over tit with it rushing around the woods Doubt if she will hold up after a few falls - sturdy & quite solid looking with little flex But that don't mean she is as robust as say a regular AK or polymer G&G is what I mean Fire selector - well started out working perfectly but end of day need to go to safe then back to semi (bastid selector gears but a common AK problem and this is a cheapo cheapo box too) Hope to take it for a full day and see if it still works after 4k or so through it in one day then maybe if box holds out ok finish beefing up another m901c box but stock motor setup Chuck this moderate build back in a M901c for a laugh & consider a proper metal box in other AK12 (saw a few of these M901c BB guns on Sat so could be fun to take a more robust one to say the Mall one day) Fanx again to Choc, BBG4L & Well/Black Viper

Guessing it is maybe an ASG Armalite but seems like a few other bits or upgrades added at some point Anyway looks all metal and not a JBBG - bit battleworn but if she shoots ok then that is what matters 1 careful owner (plus 3 other very bad owners too) glue it on, maybe look out for a 10 or 11 inch outer barrel, flash/suppressor & add front flip sight etc.... just glue it on and see what good little deals you can find EDIT - nope not ASG hard to figure out but gonna go with ARES http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/1845-elite-force-ares-airsoft-m4-cqb-aeg-rifle-full-metal-rail-system.aspx similar perhaps ????

ooooh its like them picture guessing games... you know you see a tiny bit, then a little bit more, then it zooms out some more 1st one to buzz in correctly wins a prize - yayyyyyyyy oh the prize is the old f*cked flash hider

coz it is hard to tell if ccw or cw and it looks nigh on boned I'd glue/tape wedge on what ya can for now and just go with it keep your eyes open but we dunno the exact make or high quality it is by that I mean it could be say a modest gun and if so it might not be worth going too mad on time/money you could replace outer barrel but think oh I will put on another longer RIS - before you know where you are you may as well perhaps bought another RIS type M4 and kept this as backup/spare or sell it (declaring the moody flash of course if you have integrity) see how it goes, keep eye out for something cheap front end and kind of live with it is my gut feeling

if you only used it a couple of times and it was new then speak/return it to shop DON'T MESS WITH IT AND VOID ANY WARRANTY if it was second hand the selector plate or select mechanism is faulty/misaligned - take to shop for repair/service I reckon

What gun is it ??? hard to tell coz thread is chewed up but it "could" be clockwise on there try to stare and watch how the spiral thread climbs - so to speak but I'd be f*cked if I can clearly see it is so mashed up try wrapping a bit of plumbing ptfe tape round threads and it might bite but any flash will be bollox'd that you put on there in the end but the tape & bit of glue could help it stay put see you got some kind of RIS so you probably rear wired

They are quite cheap from china - yeah must be ultra high quality look on fleabay for "14mm die left" - it should be 1mm pitch However though 14mm ccw is the norm there are still the odd one Army R85 a clone of G&G's L85 has a normal clockwise thread to be honest you might be better off just glue something on there for now some cheapo plastic flash or a bit of black pipe/tube M4a1 will need the front sight pins knocked out and some hand guard sizes vary to not all have true exact 7 inch hand guards so more modification could be needed even if you buy a complete outer barrel - try to make sure it is from same make/model to be sure TM compatible can translate to "kind of" TM compatible if the gun is a decent make you could look at it as an ideal time to change front end to a rail system but if a M4a1 with battery up front then peq or rewire for rear battery may be needed If it was a £100 or so gun I think I'd just see if I could glue on with epoxy/araldite something to tidy it up and see how it goes for now whilst I rethink my options plenty of crappy cheapo guns have just glued on flash hiders - so you could throw something together maybe make something like a bespoke silencer at the end - soz not very good at Blue Peter & washing up bottle top stuff if it is a more higher end gun then have a think about how far you want to go but could still plop something on there for now - it don't do much anyway (looks mainly and maybe produces a slightly different sound) hard to tell but guessing a m4a1 with a 275-300mm inner barrel as the end and front sight is close together so if that is about correct you don't really want a longer 363 m4a1 outer barrel

somebody better NOT warm famasboy you mean

google up where you are or quite possible a local site will have a techy guy or at very least know some techy guy who knows a thing or two

NO - DO NOT STRIP IT FFS see if you can rotate that cylinder around and you MIGHT see a hole or port appear I am NOT saying fix it - but it is one thing to check and rule out if we can rule out the port and see the hole half way aprox then it ain't that so MUST be a hop/barrel/nozzle related problem most of this is common sense process of elimination but trust me it so so very easy to steam in and f*ck with stuff that you don't need to or often you can't see the wood for the trees So very much can go wrong and the slightest thing sends the gun fire all over the place and very pi$$ poorly heck I'm an expert to getting guns firing like that - very badly sometimes diagnose or maybe investigate but perhaps like Lozart said take it to a pro to do the final fixing

the guy talks a lot of sense I have broke plenty and only have a tiny scrape of wisdom a pro should be able to diagnose and fix it quickly and a quick service probably breaking cheapo guns is ok - bolloxing a decent G&G is a tragic shame you don't wanna do

brass tube is cylinder port is the slotted hole in the brassy looking tubey thingymajig aka cylinder

http://i54.tinypic.com/2aietl3.jpg ahhh - the port is one the gearbox's cylinder now if somebody has overhauled it they could of fitted a full cylinder instead of a correct ported cylinder Now I ain't saying it is this but now we know its s/hand so it could be what the previous owner f*cked up or was crap so they flogged it so to speak Just coz you can't see the port it could be other side or even hidden underneath just saying with a bad port all sorts of weird stuff can happen BUT it may very well be numerous other things - but might be worth checking if your cylinder port looks like that pic one if it is that is one thing to rule out - if you can't see the hole in cylinder you might be able to rotate it and see if it is underneath/other side etc.... if it has the port for say 275 barrel - guessing the length btw then it can then be ruled out and look towards barrel/hop etc.... and I'm just making this up as i go along

stabbing in dark a bit coz I'm no expert....... need to check barrel as that "could" be scratched hop could be iffy and need attention/replacing nozzle could not be sealing correctly and in line properly 101% this is quite rare as G&G's are normally pretty damn good - was this new btw if so speak to the retialer but don't go nutz opening her up much further it "could" be a bad port or volume ratio on cylinder - curving is a possible symptom of over volume eg: a full or fullish cylinder used for a shorter than usual barrel what actual model or how long is the mp5 and its inner barrel ? and did you get it s/hand or new - speak to retailer like I said if its shooting that pi$$ed

Finally - Hopefully finished my own AK12 and I would like to first of all express a massive thanks to Chock for taking the plunge I hope you are ok m8, I know you had a few problems but hope you are doing ok and can pop back soon Fanx also to BBguns4Less - Chock first then shortly after I bought one too but was unsure if I could be ar$ed to re-do it Then think they had a broken one going cheap and a broken DE 901c - frizzle's favourite AK or pile of crap for AK TM compatibility Hmmmm - 901's crappy plastic gearbox with crappy plastic gears (thought they looked metal gears but was just plastic gear on metal spindle) Has a kind of normal cheap motor frame and short motor - little guts but yeah it could kinda work.... Now I can use a metal JG box but for $hits & giggles I thought wtf lets try n see if that crappy plastic box from 901c could be beefed up and fitted into the AK12. Also lets not go mad & refit a new spring/piston/cylinder head and all that but see what spares I got lying around OK - I got some SRC cheapy metalurgy/tin pot 18:1 gears that could get her working better than shredded plastic gears (this would of been ok and I wasn't gonna go too mad - or so I thought and this was my downfall - I'll come to that later) These gears are crap and the spindles are 2.9mm not 3mm so chose to use plastic bushings but some of the more "tighter" bushings yup they spin and was shimmed taking my time - that was quite easy.... Full cylinder or there abouts coz fitting 455mm barrel - a 510 is just a tad too long so 455mm is nice and aprox 10mm short of outer barrel if you removed flash hider - or say up 500mm if still fitted - 510 just sticks out of the vents at front of hider (flash hider is stuck/glued on and the broken one was a little cracked and came off easily - it ain't screwed on btw) But fitting a full cylinder had a few minor problems coz tappet plate was now snagging moving back n forth and also catching near end of travel the old cylinder was very thin and ported for 250mm barrel so I became very good friends with a few small files and craft/kitchen knife plus got quite flirty with some sandpaper - seemed everytime I replaced something I would spend another 30mins - 1hr filing/sanding smoothing etc... Easy to replace but didn't have much AK/ver 3 spares to hand at the time hence bit more pi$$balling about making do with what I had But long story short - yeah reckon she may be ok with the DE 901c plastic box in there so lets rip open the AK12 and see how we go....... Not gonna go over most of what Chock did and he did a very good job indeed - another fanx from me Barrel - yup takes a normal AEG barrel - unlike the 901c which has a weird bespoke barrel/hop unit - well that is good 901 box yeah goes in there ok - a little play and very little locks it and holds it all in place so a few bits of cardboard box used to pack it out a tiny bit - yeah think she may bloomin all fit in there ok Did have a Madbull 510 barrel but seems crap and was jamming a lot, crap cloggy junk 455 barrel - cheapo 6.03 that was gonna go in say a Cyma 028a - yeah that works nice (couple of o-rings help to reduce barrel rattling around in outer barrel) yeah this may work out quite well - put in an old double o-ring plastic cylinder head - dunno where it came from but was very good seal (dumped old cylinder + head & crap seal nozzle - kept old piston and used spring & spring guide but used another o-ring on piston) nozzle was a new AK one with single o-ring, a plastic nozzle didn't fit well and was a tiny bit oval/distorted and lost a bit of compression yeah that will work -oooh lets replace the stock motor for a Big Dragon M160 mofo That motor is one crazy bitch - deffo a little faster than a SHS High Speed type plus should have more grunt/torque too Yeah better fit a mosfet in there - got a couple of cheap crappy mosfet's from TWG - Do NOT buy these they are crap You push them they will just melt - get a proper fet or make your own from genuine 3034's Anyway fitted a crappy fet in there and will run it on 7.4v lipo's only but it still gets hot when spamming on semi.... Stock is a bit crap on AK12 - not much room in there for bigger batteries - well it comes apart if you are careful !!!! 3 screws and you can split the 2 halves - hmmm reckon I can remove some of that in the middle and get some more room back yup that will work - fet can go there run wires there - extra room for a more decent size block battery..... Resolder some new thinner wires on gearbox's switch - all externally - gotta love v3's and how they are much easier over v2's Carefully route wires in AK's shell, into half of stock through the 2 old "sprung contact points" that was in there previously Wire it all up aprox, refit 2 halves of gun - yup looking good here..... Oh I sprayed the thing too whilst I was messing about with crappy plastic box - 2 quick coats inside shell then 3 coats on outside - think I prefer PlastiKote over Krylon myself, seems a more flatter black but that is just my take on it Now the stock is a little fiddly to mod but not too bad, route wires get that finalised then put back catch/spring... A little jiggery pokery plus prodding any wires that might come out of position whilst closing up the 2 halves of stock REMEMBER not to try and be a dick and unclip stock - or you will rip out the permanent wires in there Might be a good idea to jam the spring catch to avoid ya m8 trying to remove stock perhaps (or just be selfish and don't let anyone else borrow it) Yup she looks good and she fires very well indeed - minor gripes..... pistol grip is a bit naff and not the best job I made of it - got it wrong guessing where new hole position should be the stock hop up keeps sliding off as I let rip - tighten screws a bit still does it didn't wanna go nutz as it is a cheap plastic hop - did change hop rubber to a used silicone clear one but still loses setting so another bit of card jammed in hop and she moves no more - can't finely adjust it but seems quite good at jammed position (my metal ak hops haven't arrived from far east yet or Poland come to that so have to make do but seems ok) Best use .25's and she sprays in a nice straight line for quite a while Yup very pleased - brought it along and was looking to a an afternoon of seeing how she performed BANG - wtf has she jammed or box siezed ??? Have a quite look - nozzle hardly moving at all -- ohh that ain't right had a spare gun but was absolutely GUTTED I went home with the right hump with me wanting to suss out wtf had failed I must of put close to 1,000 through here at home on/off and chrono and messing with hop & bb's etc..... What didn't help was that I charged the 2 x 7.4v's I was gonna take and popped in a 9.9v LiFe in there - wow she was really motoring Yeah that didn't help pushing her even more.... Ahhh crap - seems the cheapo SRC sector with its thinner width teeth to spur gear had crossed and mangled up This had happened to me once before and my own stupid f*ckwit fault for trying to do it on the cheap especially with such a cheap nasty set of gears..... The other gears were fine - even spur was ok just the sector is too cheaply made and thinner width teeth, you shim with a slight gap/play then there is very little left to run on the other gears teeth properly, little stress and BANG The really annoying thing is that I had this happen before so more fool me OK - I got a couple of choices here - replace just sector gear, whole set or replace whole box ???? Well I have got one single SHS sector gear that took an hour to locate but that went in there fine well it is much thicker so had to use 6mm bearings on sector and a few shims - yeah is way more robust Gonna try this and if she busts again then the JG metal box is going in there ffs (think I will use the JG box for the first AK12 I bought at full price and use this cheap Ak12 as my learner first one) Box firing once again - hmmmm she was hitting 338fps aprox at 21.8rps on regular 7.4v 25c lipo's popped a bearing spring guide in there replacing the normal cheap nasty plastic spring guide This shoud give me a little more fps but will it take me over 350 ???? Well the fet is a bit crap - don't buy those TWG ones (Big Dragon PCB fets with possible clone mosfets) Hmmm need to maybe put one of my own ones together and replace the wire for decent thicker wire as that motor is just trying to draw all it can - was the silver wire of the modify type, better than stock but not a great deal thicker..... Worth pointing out that as I was compressing the spring a touch more with bearing spring guide I was expecting a tiny slight drop in average rps - say 20 - 21 rps - well gotta drop a tiny smidge so Ill guess at 21 instead of 21.8 Ok left it a few days to ponder and then started to finish her off and put her back together with my own fet and thicker wire Thicker wire was a ok but was little tighter getting pistol grip back on - think the wire I am using might be say 15awg and I think would be a squeeze in a v2 box but this AK12 has a lot more room in it to feed wires back to stock..... Only fired a few shots out her so far but yeah she is a little more quicker and a little more powerful... Hitting aprox 348/355 - hmmm will she be too hot to use and hitting at 23.8 though this may be higher as 7.4v lipo was in bag from last week and haven't tested the voltage went nutz on semi spamming and my DIY basic fet was much cooler than that crappy fet from last week (actually made up a heatsink for it but think I was being a little cautiousn - reckon that may be a bit overkill though) Anyway soz for massive long waffley bollox post - I think/hope she will last a bit better now gonna keep her at 7.4v and I am really hoping she will last at least half a day blasting around next time or will either fit JG box in there or just take up ballet coz I suck at this modding malarky some pics anyway if anybody thinks of doing what Chock, me and some others have done..... AK12 Stock mod or bodge: The completed AK12 - with 2 x 901c mags taped together noobish COD style - gonna try 2 x 1k mags next to travel ultra light if you are thinking about it then by all means gimme a shout and I will try to help (keep it brief I promise) First modding attempt she was firing like AK - Safe - FULL - SEMI and was a bit hit n miss on selector when I re-did I noticed the AK12 selector was different and so used that selector plate but still needed a little mod to work properly - think now she works like M4's: SAFE - SEMI - FULL AUTO and reckon she engages correctly 99% of the time - well better than before - bastid AK selector gears etc... (god bless the person who invented mini files/sandpaper) And yes It took a while on & off but thought wtf lets have a go at it, a little service on a G&G or decent gun is a walk in the park compared to working on lame ar$e cheapo piles of crap - this was quite do-able though as we know beefing up a D68 or a B500A1 is gonna be a little more tedious and tbh dunno if you/I would bother but as this is about the only AK12 we might get hold of for a while - it is a nice fun project and could be worth doing

THEY ALL LIE - how depends on how much they need to bull$hit you to get YOUR vote I'm done on this coz I respect all of you on here & your own views, even if they are very different to my own Just make up your own minds and please be sure to vote with heart & head - but hopefully try to vote if you can I hate people that moan about stuff - but didn't vote, well what ya moaning for if you ducked one simple X on a bit of paper 60 to 65% won't want the main party in and a lot more wouldn't want them to probably form a coalition with "them" So its gonna be a right free for ballsed up mess that didn't want - but try to vote anyway coz think we need a good turnout at least baggsie bringing a bloody hot gun with Brown's name on it - no not coz he's Scottish Just hate the bastid - but hope he brings Milliband actually bring them all along they all need lighting up

Scotland got lied to - by who politicians, media and other people in power Welcome my friend to the REAL world we all live in I don't want to start a SCOT Vs ENGLAND war - but if the Scots were mislead/brainwashed/lied to that sounds to me like a normal election campaign Really - you wanna try and manage something you didn't wanna be envolved with with another party you no longer vote for or trust to deliver I know you may not love the English or rest of UK but surely you don't hate us that much (stop calling me Shirley)

I think I got nearly enough guns actually we pay a higher rate of vat anyway on TWG - 23% i think well last time I clocked invoice it said something like that it is all more expensive than 6 months ago I might get my duty free fags back now

Labour I really don't trust they didn't leave us in good shape as they exited Really unsure if bailing the Banks out was such a good idea - but we will never know the true real answer if we didn't Funny if I screw up at work I have to be held accountable for my mistakes - wonder if my bank will pay my bills coz I'm a bit skint this month ??? SNP - hmmm - well previously this labour's main area to count on, but they nearly got their wish to breakaway from UK (Not England - yeah I know there is a lot of banter between England & Scotland, but I'm talking about UK here) Now they got certain powers to govern parts of their own country - which they always have had certain different laws banknotes etc.... Which is fine - but after the vote the rest of the UK was saying ok let them have more say in Scotland's governing but less in UK or England 40% wanted out but this much higher and it could of gone either way, and the vote may/will be brought up again so seems to me that SNP didn't like the outcome - funny Salmond quit when he didn't the chance to be crowned king of scotland. The vote may come up again - well yeah pretty sure it will as the SNP appears to bring out more patriotism in the Scottish people Funny English Patriotism is referred to as racist though Anyway - lets say at this present moment in time with support growing perhaps for a different final referendum result.... say 45% want out of UK - lets just hyperthectically say that 45% So getting close to half of Scotland don't wanna be in UK - oh yeah let them form a coalition.... Now with whom - oh yeah Labour - the people that even the Scottish people don't trust and choose their own political party Now these 2 parties who helped to start off this mess and half the others nearly don't wanna be in the UK THESE 2 parties are gonna decide the future of the WHOLE UK ???? Yeah I think I will stick with the devil I do know and let the 2 other idiots have another stint and see if they can honour half of their promises at least (half is quite a milestone in political terms btw)

Think to be fair maybe £5,000 or so should be the limit yes we should all pay for further education past A level - which is more stuff than I left with everybody should pay something - especially if that will help and further their employment heck I was doing a few evening courses at London College of Print - Elephant & Castle - gone now some media bollox college but I paid to learn more about others areas and gain a better understanding of the numerous other area of my industry (might have helped me gain a better understanding of stuff and maybe stood me in better shape for job interviews with my PhD in lithographic bull$hit)

I just remember hearing on radio wtf ? WTF ? WTF? how daf*ck am I gonna pay next months mortgage and I wasn't in a much better paying job than when I previously sold myself so short coz I needed to get a job - any job at the time Like the wall idea but think UKIP might use polish builders as they are a lot cheaper