Stu 661 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Have decided to ditch the GBB idea and instead go for a AEG with recoil. I have had a look and can only find TM’s with recol, really like the idea of them especially the stops firing when empty. Any other AEG’s out there with recoil that my poor google skills have missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 KWA RM4 ERG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 There is Bolt but I hear they tend to shake themselves apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigStew said: There is Bolt but I hear they tend to shake themselves apart. There's a lot of people with the later ones that haven't had that problem. More of an issue with early ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Good to hear I have always wanted an Sr 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted July 30, 2018 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted July 30, 2018 I want one of the ones @EvilMonkeehas got recently. The PTS Centurion CM4. Looks Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, L3wisD said: I want one of the ones @EvilMonkeehas got recently. The PTS Centurion CM4. Looks Lovely. YES! I do want that, so so so very much. But also a TM MP7 GBB. And a new car. And windows in the house that don't make it look like it's always raining. And a holiday AND THE MOON ON A STICK!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleaners inc Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 G&P do a m4 with recoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 G&G do recoil too, my Wasp is technically a recoil, however it's not a patch on the TM Recoils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E21A Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Lozart said: YES! I do want that, so so so very much. But also a TM MP7 GBB. And a new car. And windows in the house that don't make it look like it's always raining. And a holiday AND THE MOON ON A STICK!!!! You can buy the moon quite cheap, it’s not on a stick though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dentonboy Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 TM all the way fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, E21A said: You can buy the moon quite cheap, it’s not on a stick though No stick? WELL THAT'S NO BLOODY USE THEN, IS IT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Lozart said: No stick? WELL THAT'S NO BLOODY USE THEN, IS IT? Can’t get you the moon on a stick , but I can get you Jose Jalapeno on a steeek ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkle60 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 GBLS DAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwalker Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Having shot my mates TM recoil and Bolt, My own ics Mars and now my Kwa erg. I think its 110% safe to say. If your look for the recoil realism, The KWA Erg feels by far the best of them all. It also has a good amount of weight to it giving it added realism if thats what your looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ghostwalker said: Having shot my mates TM recoil and Bolt, My own ics Mars and now my Kwa erg. I think its 110% safe to say. If your look for the recoil realism, The KWA Erg feels by far the best of them all. It also has a good amount of weight to it giving it added realism if thats what your looking for. It's actually about half a kilo heavier than a real M4A1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtech Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 You're not going to find anything close to the recoil on a GBBR. TM Recoil are in the top end for performance & realism KWA Erg feels awesome My brother-in-law has the Bolt, and I ran with the G&G TopTech EBB, both okay but no where near the same level of recoil. More of an artificial shunt. You also won't get the locking bolt that you would with the TM Recoil. Of course you could consider the GBLS DAS, but it's new to market and rather pricey. However, I thought I'd throw it out there. I'm hoping to get my hands on one to play with and review in the coming weeks. They're rather tasty but well beyond my price bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, Gtech said: You're not going to find anything close to the recoil on a GBBR. TM Recoil are in the top end for performance & realism KWA Erg feels awesome My brother-in-law has the Bolt, and I ran with the G&G TopTech EBB, both okay but no where near the same level of recoil. More of an artificial shunt. You also won't get the locking bolt that you would with the TM Recoil. Of course you could consider the GBLS DAS, but it's new to market and rather pricey. However, I thought I'd throw it out there. I'm hoping to get my hands on one to play with and review in the coming weeks. They're rather tasty but well beyond my price bracket. The new KWA ERG AEG3 series have a stop on empty function too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Lozart said: The new KWA ERG AEG3 series have a stop on empty function too. Haven't the ERGs always had that when using their own mags with the extended followers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, M_P said: Haven't the ERGs always had that when using their own mags with the extended followers? Couldn't tell you to be honest. I was just browsing the KWA site and they were touting it as a new thing for the AEG3. I need a Centurion CM4 in my life though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtech Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lozart said: The new KWA ERG AEG3 series have a stop on empty function too. TIL! Everyday is a school day ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted July 31, 2018 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted July 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Lozart said: I need a Centurion CM4 in my life though Me too, brother.. Go halfsies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pierce09 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 hours ago, M_P said: Haven't the ERGs always had that when using their own mags with the extended followers? Yep. both the original 30/60 PTS PMags and the newer 30/120 KWA mags have the mag cut off feature. Having owned a TMRS, 2 BOLT B4 M4A1s and 2 KWA PTS ERG M4s, I can say although they each have their good points, I've preferred my KWA ERGs by a mile. The TM is awesome but I find the KWA PTS ERG is just so solid and reliable. The BOLT was nice and had a cheeky little kick to it but never felt substantial enough although I used one for about 3 years stock without issue before it died (stripped gears). I currently use another ERG Block 2 that is awesome if a little heavy with the DD rail and an Elcan on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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