THE TM MWS thread

[AlphaBear]

So I took the angry gun nozzle apart gave it a clean as it’s wasn’t moving efficiently in bolt.  I lubed the rubber buffer with some silicon oil which KoA use for their pistons in their recoil gearboxes. Bloody hell what a difference that made. The nozzle moves effortlessly and you can even hear the air moving in the nozzle (well the suction type noise). The stock marui nozzle didn’t have the same affect. The stock marui nozzle just falls straight into the bolt whereas the Angry Gun has that suction resistance. Either the AA rubber buffer is a tad too big or the Marui one is a tad too worn. Dunno. Someone explain to me which is correct please?

 

On to chrono time. Fully gassed up mag on Abbey Predator gas at room temperature of 20c. Using some 0.2s first shot 371, then consistently 366 for the next few slowly going down to 358 on average. The AA valve will need more adjusting to decrease the gas flow. 
 

Other than that she’s back to normal! Whoop! Happy days. 
 

Oh, the marui hop has 15 click positions. I know coz I counted each click lol. Twice. Using a stock marui rubber and a brass nub the 0.3s which I subsequently used needed 7 clicks of hop for a stable flight. Don’t know if that info is useful for anyone?

 

 

[RMDavis]

  On 13/10/2020 at 15:01, AlphaBear said:

So I took the angry gun nozzle apart gave it a clean as it’s wasn’t moving efficiently in bolt.  I lubed the rubber buffer with some silicon oil which KoA use for their pistons in their recoil gearboxes. Bloody hell what a difference that made. The nozzle moves effortlessly and you can even hear the air moving in the nozzle (well the suction type noise). The stock marui nozzle didn’t have the same affect. The stock marui nozzle just falls straight into the bolt whereas the Angry Gun has that suction resistance. Either the AA rubber buffer is a tad too big or the Marui one is a tad too worn. Dunno. Someone explain to me which is correct please?

 

On to chrono time. Fully gassed up mag on Abbey Predator gas at room temperature of 20c. Using some 0.2s first shot 371, then consistently 366 for the next few slowly going down to 358 on average. The AA valve will need more adjusting to decrease the gas flow. 
 

Other than that she’s back to normal! Whoop! Happy days. 
 

Oh, the marui hop has 15 click positions. I know coz I counted each click lol. Twice. Using a stock marui rubber and a brass nub the 0.3s which I subsequently used needed 7 clicks of hop for a stable flight. Don’t know if that info is useful for anyone?

 

 

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Can't comment on the AA nozzle, but my TM one has a very good seal with plenty of resistance before it follows the BCG.

 

Read recommendations from people to thread lock the adjusting screw on the AA nozzle as it has a habit of firing it down the barrel! 😂

[AlphaBear]

  On 13/10/2020 at 20:00, RMDavis said:

 

Can't comment on the AA nozzle, but my TM one has a very good seal with plenty of resistance before it follows the BCG.

 

Read recommendations from people to thread lock the adjusting screw on the AA nozzle as it has a habit of firing it down the barrel! 😂

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Funny you should mention thredlock,.. Fortunately the  nozzle I have has blue thread lock on it as standard... I've got it shooting at about 340 fps on Abbey gas at temperature 20c when tested this evening....

 

Anyway, my replacement Marui nozzle should be here in a couple of weeks along with other gubbins...

[jsmithski]

Holy cow, have you seen that?

 

[AlphaBear]

  On 13/10/2020 at 23:45, jsmithski said:

Holy cow, have you seen that?

 

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Yeah this was shown earlier in the group... (scroll back a few hundred pages lol)... but seriously the concept is great but I hazard to guess you will need a custom G&P upper receiver as the title to this video suggests... Personally give me a HAO upper receiver and forgo this easy method of taking the HOP out..

[AlphaBear]

Added a MK18 rail.  Can’t decide if I need a tan CTR stock now. Already have a tan RVG or shall I leave it as is?

[Eenthuncob]

that does look nice with the MK18 rail on, I'm tempted to get a MK18 rail.

[jsmithski]

  On 14/10/2020 at 11:52, AlphaBear said:

Added a MK18 rail.  Can’t decide if I need a tan CTR stock now. Already have a tan RVG or shall I leave it as is?

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Inspiration for you 

 

[AlphaBear]

  On 14/10/2020 at 16:30, jsmithski said:

Inspiration for you 

 

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Oh hello......... <porn> Those are magpul sites,,,, I do like that... as a matter of fact I have Magpul PTS Masada lost in the loft somewhere I can nab the sites of that but they are black.. However me being me, I'll probably get a black magpul grip, I'm just too conservative when it comes to mixing colours on my rifle lol...

  On 14/10/2020 at 14:55, Eenthuncob said:

that does look nice with the MK18 rail on, I'm tempted to get a MK18 rail.

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Do it... you know you want too 😂. It just makes the rifle look sexy! Although an all black rail would look nice too. I have a 9 inch DD lite rail which I could plonk on to see what it looks like too. 

[Eenthuncob]

  On 14/10/2020 at 17:23, AlphaBear said:

 

Oh hello......... <porn> Those are magpul sites,,,, I do like that... as a matter of fact I have Magpul PTS Masada lost in the loft somewhere I can nab the sites of that but they are black.. However me being me, I'll probably get a black magpul grip, I'm just too conservative when it comes to mixing colours on my rifle lol...

Do it... you know you want too 😂. It just makes the rifle look sexy! Although an all black rail would look nice too. I have a 9 inch DD lite rail which I could plonk on to see what it looks like too. 

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Thats a lovely looking gun there, I'm right in thinking ill need an adapter ring to get the mk18 rail to fit?

[jsmithski]

One word regarding UBR: heavy. I got that one on my KWA Kriss Vector and it adds a lot to the weight. Also I like my m4a1 unmodified, there’s something really sexy about the original look

[Eenthuncob]

I had a replica UBR a few years ago on my Krytac and yes they are heavy and hard to find unless you don't mind paying £200plus for a real one.

[AlphaBear]

  On 14/10/2020 at 19:18, Eenthuncob said:

 

Thats a lovely looking gun there, I'm right in thinking ill need an adapter ring to get the mk18 rail to fit?

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Yes you will need a PTS adapter ring from Fire Support about a tenner.  The ring goes on the Marui barrel and the MK18 nut screws onto it.... simples

[Eenthuncob]

Thanks will get one ordered and maybe the MK18 rail as well.

[Marroksteel]

@Davegolf
Thank you for the nubs. Still waiting on other part's to get in before I start building but afterwards I'll have 2 mws's really for fun next year lol.

[Davegolf]

  On 15/10/2020 at 01:32, Marroksteel said:

@Davegolf
Thank you for the nubs. Still waiting on other part's to get in before I start building but afterwards I'll have 2 mws's really for fun next year lol.

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No problem, look forward to seeing your builds on here 👍

 

@jsmithski I agree completely, love the original look, front sight posts always look awesome I think

[jsmithski]

Regarding the trigger, I did disassemble the thing, polished all rough surfaces I could find (scratched due to friction) and relubed (ptfe grease). I do not notice any change in the trigger pull though, works just fine so I guess it’s just the design that sucks a bit. I also noticed that moving parts are silver-like coated but the coating can easily chip off, again this is probably low quality stuff.

[SSPKali]

  On 15/10/2020 at 10:11, jsmithski said:

Regarding the trigger, I did disassemble the thing, polished all rough surfaces I could find (scratched due to friction) and relubed (ptfe grease). I do not notice any change in the trigger pull though, works just fine so I guess it’s just the design that sucks a bit. I also noticed that moving parts are silver-like coated but the coating can easily chip off, again this is probably low quality stuff.

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I have a complete set of Wii Tech hardened steel trigger parts on their way, I have the hammer already and the material and finish is much better than the stock TM stuff.

I will post details once I have it all fitted.

[jsmithski]

Bolt catch. When I gently press to release it, it first makes a short move, just like the trigger and friction can be heard. I think the bolt catch moves sideways too much so needs shimming. Anyone tried fixing it?

[jsmithski]

  On 15/10/2020 at 12:24, SSPKali said:

I have a complete set of Wii Tech hardened steel trigger parts on their way, I have the hammer already and the material and finish is much better than the stock TM stuff.

I will post details once I have it all fitted.

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So shimming the trigger box did not help? You said it works fine now.

[SSPKali]

  On 15/10/2020 at 15:38, jsmithski said:

So shimming the trigger box did not help? You said it works fine now.

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It certainly helped, and the trigger worked ok but the edges of the sears were still worn...and I love chasing incremental improvements 😁

[Noddy45]

Hey folks - I see that defconairsoft have the Tokyo Marui MK18 MOD.1 GBBR in stock along with the Tm mags.

 

For €60 cheaper than I can get locally on a pre order for a mid December delivery maybe.

 

May I ask are they a good company to deal with in your opinion.

 

This may not be the place for this post but I didn’t want to start a new topic and I thought it maybe of interest to some on this thread.

[Guest]

  On 15/10/2020 at 19:19, Noddy45 said:

Hey folks - I see that defconairsoft have the Tokyo Marui MK18 MOD.1 GBBR in stock along with the Tm mags.

 

For €60 cheaper than I can get locally on a pre order for a mid December delivery maybe.

 

May I ask are they a good company to deal with in your opinion.

 

This may not be the place for this post but I didn’t want to start a new topic and I thought it maybe of interest to some on this thread.

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I’ve bought a few bits from them with zero issues

[Wild Weasel]

Hey folks, I'm looking at possibly running rothenberger map pro gas this winter, I'm sure a few people on here have spoke about it before what's the general score with it?

[Uncle Pauly]

  On 14/10/2020 at 11:52, AlphaBear said:

Added a MK18 rail.  Can’t decide if I need a tan CTR stock now. Already have a tan RVG or shall I leave it as is?

 

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I like that! Nice simplicity to it. I'd personally leave the stock black, but YMMV 🙂

 

  On 11/10/2020 at 22:39, Uncle Pauly said:

Quick question: anyone know whether the Magpul trigger guards are compatible with the MWS? 🤔

 

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So as a quick follow-up I can now confirm that:

1. The Magpul trigger guards do fit the MWS, but only after a wee bit of filing down in places (this applies to the aluminium guard; the plastic version might be a less 'fettly' fit).
2. A snapped trigger guard tab can be easily and quite convincingly repaired using Gorilla Glue, following some initial and copious swearing 🙄 (damn those things are brittle!).