Green Party banning airsoft

[beastmode]

I'm happy with the current government there's always things that could be done better but better than the shambles we had before. And the greens will never get in power, thankfully. We don't want to be like Australia and have no airsoft.

[Russe11]

Bio ammunition is just as good and having seen the difference in appearance of a local bio only site (spartan airsoft) I have to say I think it is the way forward.

As for banning replica weapons, this will hit re-enactors even more than airsofters, they won't even be able to have 2 tone weapons in public. The whole thing is so badly thought out that it has no hope of becoming a reality.

[Colonel Kurtz]

We could form the Peoples Airsoft Reformation Party and stand in every town with Green candidates

 

Or whats the criteria for getting something legally defined as a religion?

[cavninja]

Haha, the SETT is awesome.... or rather it was.... the health and safety brigade (ironic that I now work in health and safety) put a stop to the fun parts as they deemed it too dangerous to practice in a nice heated tank with fully qualified divers and first aiders and a decompression tank should the need arise, instead submariners are now expected to try escape from a submarine in the cold, pitch black, smoke filled and poisonous gas filled environment whilst probably injured with crew mates dead and get it right first time in probably far deeper waters than the 30m tank in Gosport!

 

Seriously??!!! WTF??!! That's like have paras who've never been trained to jump and just giving them a chute and expecting them to crack on?!! Insane!!!

[cavninja]

We could form the Peoples Airsoft Reformation Party and stand in every town with Green candidates

 

Or whats the criteria for getting something legally defined as a religion?

 

A political party??!!

 

Association of National Airsoft Leagues anyone??!!

 

Religion??!! Well I do donate most of my income to airosft??!

 

Could I be a registered addict??!!

[CES_williamson]

god i hate the Green party!

This thread seemed to go to a UKIP hating thread as well, lets keep on topic, i am not a UKIP supporter but i dont get why everyone calls them racist? they just had a few nut jobs who where racist and where fired! No racist policies ! But oh well, im a strong tory atm don't know what will change in the years to come but thats who im voting for atm. But i would like Nigel ferage to become an MP i just think it would be hilarious to hear him on a Wednesday shouting at the PM, not for him to do anything just because it would be funny XD

[straffham]

First off the thread title is a little sensationalist to say the least. I don't think I'm alone in saying I'm not going to lose any sleep over this "threat". Airsoft isn't currently in danger of being banned, certainly not compared to what was threatened in 2006, when thankfully a consortium of players and retailers convinced the Government to grant defence to allow airsoft to continue with the proviso of the specific defences specified in the VCRA. It might not be a fantastic Act but its better than the alternative at the time of no more rifs. Its worth mentioning that the Govt at the time did not really realise what airsoft skirmishing was, but were enlightened to our pastime and the "suspense of disbelief" factor which was part of what allowed legit skirmishers to be able to keep the ability to buy rifs. Skirmishing has of course grown massively since 2007. But for any future threat to be met we would again need to rely on retailers and players to fight that threat.

 

ANY Government in future cannot just ban airsoft overnight, it would require a change in the law by way of an amendment bill, which takes time to progress through parliament, allowing it to be challenged. A majority would still then need to vote in favour for it to proceed.

 

Its best we keep playing, be seen to be responsible, and support our UK retailers, and worry about challenges when we KNOW they are happening, rather than panicking that a minor political party wants to stamp on us.

[Shortenhauzen]

Very simillar to trying to ban " Air Rifles " and or licence them. Any time there is an election this gets rolled out and doesn't really get anywhere. I have been shooting and Hunting / pest control for the last 5/6 years with sub 12ft/ib Air rifles and am still surprised by the reaction when and if the subject matter arises re guns / hunting.

 

" you have guns ? you hunt ? you shoot rabbits ? thats just wrong , All guns should be banned and the rabbits don't do any harm !!! "

 

Poorly informed, knee jerk reaction in my opinion and when you try to explain the damage rabbits cause etc well you may as well spit in the wind. I have found the same reaction to my recent venture in to Airsoft !!!

 

Won't get anywhere as it's just plain stupid !!!

[Lord_Metile]

[Zak Da Mack]

god i hate the Green party!

This thread seemed to go to a UKIP hating thread as well, lets keep on topic, i am not a UKIP supporter but i dont get why everyone calls them racist? they just had a few nut jobs who where racist and where fired! No racist policies ! But oh well, im a strong tory atm don't know what will change in the years to come but thats who im voting for atm. But i would like Nigel ferage to become an MP i just think it would be hilarious to hear him on a Wednesday shouting at the PM, not for him to do anything just because it would be funny XD

 

I suppose the issue is that UKIP is currently the most right wing party out there (Is BNP still a thing?). Therefore racists are going to be considered with that party than any other one. I don't support UKIP because of their policies, not cause they're racist. Although the fact that Britain First supports them only makes me dislike them more.

 

Back to airsoft: How many airsofters do you reckon are in the UK?

[SoapAirsoft]

They are kicking off about the fact there is 100 more TASER officers on the streets today as well. Bloody joke, we're on the same terror alert level as Northern Ireland, and they all carry sidearms!

[Airsoft-Ed]

Back to airsoft: How many airsofters do you reckon are in the UK?

Around thirty/thirty five thousand would be my estimate.

[Airsoft_Mr B]

Saw int Guardian recently they were kicking off about fucking police carrying guns and how they were "American style patrols" Fucks sake 90% of the world's police are probably ALL armed - nevermind only 6000 or something with access to firearms. The majority are going to be nothing like some police in the US.

And this is coming from someone who is left wing and disagrees with police militarisation / authoritarian government etc.

As was mentioned earlier it seems there truly are no moderate political parties. They're all hoplophobic (although admittedly giving us back the right would probably open it up more to those in society we don't want to be armed, and all the good people would be the unarmed one, just saying they shouldn't have banned them in the first place) Found out it was Labour who banned pistols in '97 so don't really like them anymore. Not to mention how increasingly right wing they've became since Blair.

Ffs we need a constitution IMO, stop govs just banning things all the time. I mean what was that shit recently about Cameron banning types of porn? I know it's nearly the end of his term but come on fucking seriously is that what they are spending their time on debating in the House of Commons.

Didn't realise how bad the greens were either, again over the top unnecessary proposals to ban airsoft for no legitimate reason. Saw a FB comment about how they wanted to get rid of the military and thing is I don't even know if it was serious or not but I can imagine they'd try and do it.

[jcheeseright]

why don't you try reading their manifesto instead of other people's opinions on facebook.

[Snowdrop]

Personally I think ukip get a bad rap in the press because the lab and cons control the press and are paranoid they will make big gains hence every slight nut job comment gets mentioned.

I have no doubt that the media are well aware of all the child abusing politicians, tax dodgers etc but don't go after them too much because the will loose access. However they are very quick to go after celebs.

[Colonel Kurtz]

UKIP get a bad rap because it's a party that has been born out of thug-ish racist groups like the BNP. Also, the people running the show keep on getting filmed/recorded drinking too much and enjoying some casual racism with the rich tycoon types they're trying to solicit financial support from. They essentially go round finding all these racist rich old bastards who think conservatives have gone soft and try get them to back their cause instead.
Exactly how the Nazi's turned themself into a legitimate political party (I blame Hugo Boss for WW2) and everyone loves to make the nazi association to anyone far right wing so it's always a fun rant to have against them. The important thing is UKIP exists because they have enough support of the elite and the people, the no. votes will determine how much.

 

As for the Labour and Conservatives running the media??? It's all run by Rupert Murdock, so blame him for any bias and selective targeting of (types of) people. It's celebs job to be in the media, so they don't bother spending lots of money on court injunctions to stop stuff being talked about in the media, and they dont work for or aren't any of Murdock's mates. You've got it the wrong way around; no political party controls the press, one powerful family control the press, and the press control which political party gets the best image in the media, and therfore power.

[Snowdrop]

Well yes, Murdoch does run the media but papers have a left and right spin. If the journalists don't play ball then the don't get the access. No access, no story. Just look how weak the BBC have turned since the Andrew Gilligan affair.

As I say, if the media wanted to expose the paedophile politicians, I strongly suspect they could do so tomorrow.

But Labour courts the trade unions - how do you think we got Ed not David, and it would be daft to think that in the back rooms the Conservatives aren't courting old school oxbridge type who have a stack of money and dodgy views.

 

Frankly this next election worries me. I never have and never would vote labour. The lib dems will be destroyed as they are a bunch of lying two faced cockwombles who have spent the last five years ruining any political plan, and the conservatives are frankly a shambles who listen to no one but themselves. Cameron favourite line seems to be "I believe" whether it is HS2, European Referendum, franking, trident, what ever. Well it's not what you believe Dave, it's what we, your employers want.

 

I honestly think there will be another coalition of weakness.