Philhooper2024 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Friday the 27th of September 2024 my dad old man being 58 put a LI-PO battery on charge, didn’t use the fireproof case to charge it in he had as he completely forgot to do so, what harm could I cause right? It’s just a one off. Being avid air softers as we both are he didn’t see any issue with it as it was only going on charge for say 20 mins so he could test his new RIF. he was smoking a cigarette outside the front door and left it on charge in the kitchen and than heard the smoke alarm. By the time he got back into the kitchen the place was ablaze. Fire brigade had to be called. This was all due to incompetence and negligence on his part. Please people. And all you new guys that play airsoft I implore you all to only charge and store your battery’s in a safe place and always use a fireproof pouch or box to charge your battery’s in. if not, this could be you. Thankfully nobody was harmed but the damage is done and the entire house covered in soot. It’s just not worth the risk. Edited 21 hours ago by Philhooper2024 EDcase and MistakenMexican 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez_Armstrong Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago So what was the cause? The battery was defective? The charger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudotectonic Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago What exactly was the model of that battery? And charger? Do you know how exactly did it fail? Just wondering would it make any difference if him being inside the house if the battery suddenly burst without warning Rogerborg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Allen Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Bloody hell! That was difficult to read. Jez_Armstrong, Rogerborg and JinxDuh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enid_Puceflange Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, Colin Allen said: Bloody hell! That was difficult to read. Awful situation, I bet dad is in the dog house! To be honest, I don’t bag or box mine when charging, but never leave them unattended when charging Just goes to show a couple of minutes is all it takes Edited 19 hours ago by Enid_Puceflange JinxDuh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sewdhull Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago I've had no batteries catch fire or explode, except some nicads back in the 70s which overheated exploded and melted some carpet, in 50 years. I store my batteries in ammo boxes partially charged nowadays, but before that just looked after them, threw away the puffies or physically damaged ones and use a decent charger. I'm also older than you're dad, so lets not use that as any factor in batteries catching fire. 58 being old.. Pah If you have a damaged lipo ( they are only protected by a thin plastic pouch) chuck it. if you have a cheapo charger, chuck it. If you have electrically abused the battery, chuck it. That's how to stop batteries nuking. Don't use old batteries, if you have been using a battery for Airsoft for a year get a new one, you've likely dropped your battery more than once, either in the gun or just being lazy and chucking it on the table. Lipos are soft and will deform if you drop them. I neither charge my batteries attended or place them in a nest of kindling, just use sensible charging currents and a proper balance charger. JinxDuh and Rogerborg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted 18 hours ago Supporters Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 hours ago, Philhooper2024 said: This was all due to incompetence and negligence on his part How, exactly? Was the battery visibly damaged or puffed? Did he charge at an extreme amperage? Did he use a Nuprol charger? I do agree with the principle though: I charge in a cheap bag in an Explosion Containment Pie Dish at no more than 1C, and often no more than 1A regardless. Not that a battery bag might contain the flames from a typical airsoft battery, or it might not. A (vented) box or a proper Bat-Safe do a better job, but you'll still have a toasty smelling house. Jedi_Master 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago "This was all due to incompetence and negligence on his part" I wouldn't blame him. Its not normal for a battery to fail so catastrophically. It must have been damaged (possibly unnoticeably) or the charger failed if it was a cheap one. Yes, its a pity he didn't have it in a safer place but I'm sure many of us leave them unattended for a few minutes at a time. Sorry you all had this experience but thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonfodder Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I'm guessing that either the battery or charger were faulty as batteries don't spontaneously burst into flames for no reason. Batteries should be regularly inspected and binned if damaged or puffy. I charge my batteries at work as it's free electricity and if the worst case senario does happen then it's not my house going up Just now, EDcase said: Yes, its a pity he didn't have it in a safer place but I'm sure many of us leave them unattended for a few minutes at a time. Exactly. While we all post about what should be done I'm sure we're all guilty of cutting corners at some point. MistakenMexican 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MistakenMexican Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, Cannonfodder said: I'm guessing that either the battery or charger were faulty as batteries don't spontaneously burst into flames for no reason. Batteries should be regularly inspected and binned if damaged or puffy. I charge my batteries at work as it's free electricity and if the worst case senario does happen then it's not my house going up Exactly. While we all post about what should be done I'm sure we're all guilty of cutting corners at some point. This ☝🏽 Burn down your workplace, not your house. Cannonfodder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enid_Puceflange Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, MistakenMexican said: This ☝🏽 Burn down your workplace, not your house. It’s a Win - Win,innit 😂 Edited 7 hours ago by Enid_Puceflange MistakenMexican and Cannonfodder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonfodder Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Enid_Puceflange said: It’s a Win - Win,innit 😂 I do security at empty buildings where they can't find a buyer or new tenants so the higher ups would probably be happy if I burnt the place to the ground. And before anyone says it, yes I have looked into seeing of they'd allow airsoft games 🙁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudotectonic Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I have a question about charging LiPo, what are you supposed to be "keeping an eye on" when you are charging the LiPo, indoors? Do you need to literally watch it with a hawk's eye and unplug and chuck it out the window the nanosecond it swells? Or are you just feeling the temperature every 30 seconds or so? And how are you supposed to do all these inside a LiPo bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sayer Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Dam ! That's unlucky 😕 The warnings ⚠️ about lipos have been around for many years.....not that I pay any attention......but what if. A Pyrex dish with lid would be good to contain the carnage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudotectonic Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago @Barry Sayer you might have made yourself a literal grenade because they don't withstand LiPo fire for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Remember that airsoft batteries are much smaller (fewer cells) than in the videos above. While they can spit fire or pop it wouldn't be as violent as seen in those videos. I think charging a 7.4v battery in an old cooking pot (without lid) would contain any fire as long as there isn't anything flammable too close. 11.1v Li-Po's would need a slightly bigger container but not much. This also shows how important it is to get a GOOD intelligent charger that would stop charging when the battery is full or if there is a problem. Edited 5 hours ago by EDcase MistakenMexican and Barry Sayer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sayer Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Pseudotectonic said: @Barry Sayer you might have made yourself a literal grenade because they don't withstand LiPo fire for sure Less portable than the EG67 😁 Pseudotectonic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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