What's the Most Efficient Stock GBB Pistol You've Used!

[Lex Dangler]

The title says it all really!

Let me know your thoughts... 

 

[BigStew]

TM HK45

[Adolf Hamster]

Define effecient.

 

You mean shots per fill, resistance to cole weather, or rounds required to hit a target?

[Lex Dangler]

1 hour ago, Adolf Hamster said:

Define effecient.

 

You mean shots per fill, resistance to cole weather, or rounds required to hit a target?

All of the above ? 

2 hours ago, BigStew said:

TM HK45

I've heard a lot of good things about this. Apparently the VFC HK45 is very good too? 

[Adolf Hamster]

24 minutes ago, Lex Dangler said:

All of the above ? 

 

that's like asking which formula 1 car uses the least amount of fuel, but also is the fastest in a straight line and costs the least to build.

 

at some point certain design goals can become mutually exclusive.

 

however as a less facetious answer would be the tm range, in this case the objectives of good accuracy, gas efficiency and cold weather resistance have been traded for the somewhat more subjective "feel" of a lightweight pistol with a plastic slide.

 

or you could argue many co2 pistols, which trade their performance for long term reliability (or lack thereof)

[Impulse]

Anything TM...

 

Honestly though? TM 1911. Magazine gas reservoir is tiny, but I've used it in all weathers and it continously cycles flawlessly. I love it.

[Lex Dangler]

53 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said:

 

that's like asking which formula 1 car uses the least amount of fuel, but also is the fastest in a straight line and costs the least to build.

 

at some point certain design goals can become mutually exclusive.

 

however as a less facetious answer would be the tm range, in this case the objectives of good accuracy, gas efficiency and cold weather resistance have been traded for the somewhat more subjective "feel" of a lightweight pistol with a plastic slide.

 

or you could argue many co2 pistols, which trade their performance for long term reliability (or lack thereof)

Interesting analogy ?‍♂️ 

 

I expected TM to come out on top for most.

11 minutes ago, Impulse said:

Anything TM...

 

Honestly though? TM 1911. Magazine gas reservoir is tiny, but I've used it in all weathers and it continously cycles flawlessly. I love it.

I didn't consider that there might be differences in size of the reservoirs ? 

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Lex Dangler said:

Interesting analogy ?‍♂️ 

 

I expected TM to come out on top for most.

I didn't consider that there might be differences in size of the reservoirs ? 

Conversly, every standard TM except the 1911. Never had anything but trouble with them. The more modern TM’s with 15mm nozzle are the best

 

My current favourite is the FNX, huge range, consistent grouping, 29 round magazine that will fire 87 rounds before you need a refil, optic ready, cheap mags

[Lex Dangler]

3 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:

Conversly, every standard TM except the 1911. Never had anything but trouble with them. The more modern TM’s with 15mm nozzle are the best

 

My current favourite is the FNX, huge range, consistent grouping, 29 round magazine that will fire 87 rounds before you need a refil, optic ready, cheap mags

So which have the 15mm nozzle? The FNX looks pretty sweet as well! 

[heroshark]

USP compact snappier too, and I own the hk45.

[Lex Dangler]

7 minutes ago, heroshark said:

USP compact snappier too, and I own the hk45.

I have the uspc, it's pretty sweet?? 

[AlphaBear]

I was playing around with a TM HK45 yesterday. Goodness. Incredible to hold and the blow back was strong. But more importantly the range was exceptional. And that’s just stock. I may chuck in a flamingo 50deg bucking and see what it does. 

[Lex Dangler]

1 hour ago, AlphaBear said:

I was playing around with a TM HK45 yesterday. Goodness. Incredible to hold and the blow back was strong. But more importantly the range was exceptional. And that’s just stock. I may chuck in a flamingo 50deg bucking and see what it does. 

Pleased to hear that you're enjoying it ? 

[Skara]

Surprise Surprise, TMs

 

Out of all the GBBs I've had my hands on, TMs have always been the most efficient, even my 2nd hand super battered G17 keeps pumping 2 mags worth per charge.

 

The only other GBBs with similar efficiency are my two AAP-01s

[Hami]

+1 for the TM fnx. Lovely bit of kit. Can't wait for someone to start making metal slides for them. Saying that it's very nice plastic they've used. Much better than the older gen glocks (not sure about other stuff!) 

[Cyberlawyer]

I have recently bought an FNX that I have yet to skirmish in anger, and to say the performance is staggering is an understatement. The only other Gas pistol that can compete with it IMHO is the MK23, but that is non-blowback.

 

That being said I don't particularly enjoy shooting it (still better that the MK23!!). The plastic slide means the blowback isn't as strong as other pistols and the lack of heft when it doesn't have a magazine in it bothers me. Also the single action/double action function isn't as realistic as the VFC version of the same gun (which also feels better due to the metal slide).  However for a usable skirmish pistol in the winter months the only other GBB pistol that comes close is the TM HK45 and that isn't as good as the magazines have less capacity (both in terms of gas and BBs) and it isn't optic ready.

 

 

[Hami]

40 minutes ago, Cyberlawyer said:

I have recently bought an FNX that I have yet to skirmish in anger, and to say the performance is staggering is an understatement. The only other Gas pistol that can compete with it IMHO is the MK23, but that is non-blowback.

 

That being said I don't particularly enjoy shooting it (still better that the MK23!!). The plastic slide means the blowback isn't as strong as other pistols and the lack of heft when it doesn't have a magazine in it bothers me. Also the single action/double action function isn't as realistic as the VFC version of the same gun (which also feels better due to the metal slide).  However for a usable skirmish pistol in the winter months the only other GBB pistol that comes close is the TM HK45 and that isn't as good as the magazines have less capacity (both in terms of gas and BBs) and it isn't optic ready.

 

 

In that case I'm not going to use any other pistols so my perception isn't tainted ?

[heroshark]

33 minutes ago, Hamisakim said:

In that case I'm not going to use any other pistols so my perception isn't tainted ?

some are worth being tainted by.

[AlphaBear]

For me it was a toss up between a TM FNX45 and the TM HK45. Then @Lex Danglercame along dangling he's HK45 at me which frankly was a great deal (thank you sir) and I couldn't resist. I blame @herosharkfor swaying me towards HK porn

 

If I could grab a FNX45 in black (with a suppressor I'd have pondered that as I've just heard such good things about them ....@Lex Danglergrab one dude and then when you get bored of it, I'll have it off you.... but in black not that Hasbro tan colour <insert throwing up emoji> 

 

((As they say in Star Wars..... That's no moon its a TM .... Move along nothing to see its a TM, look sir it's a TM (not a droid... ))

 

 

[MadMole]

TM  MK23. As its non Blow back  doesn't even waste gas pushing the slide back

 

[Davegolf]

Co2 Shadow, 75 whole hearted shots - in the middle of winter ?

[gunbod007]

TM and leave the slide plastic, helps with the cold weather performance and higher RoF

[emilianoksa]

Well somebody had to say it so I suppose it falls to me:

 

TM hi capa.

 

Simple single action mechanism means there isn't much to go wrong.

 

And it is easy to fix if it does.

[Lex Dangler]

On 14/12/2020 at 11:45, Skara said:

The only other GBBs with similar efficiency are my two AAP-01s

How do they compare otherwise? 

On 20/01/2021 at 19:42, emilianoksa said:

Well somebody had to say it so I suppose it falls to me:

 

TM hi capa.

 

Simple single action mechanism means there isn't much to go wrong.

 

And it is easy to fix if it does.

Ha, I'm surprised no one mentioned sooner! 

On 07/01/2021 at 21:32, MadMole said:

TM  MK23. As its non Blow back  doesn't even waste gas pushing the slide back

 

That trigger pull though!

[Lex Dangler]

On 14/12/2020 at 19:12, AlphaBear said:

For me it was a toss up between a TM FNX45 and the TM HK45. Then @Lex Danglercame along dangling he's HK45 at me which frankly was a great deal (thank you sir) and I couldn't resist. I blame @herosharkfor swaying me towards HK porn

 

If I could grab a FNX45 in black (with a suppressor I'd have pondered that as I've just heard such good things about them ....@Lex Danglergrab one dude and then when you get bored of it, I'll have it off you.... but in black not that Hasbro tan colour <insert throwing up emoji> 

 

((As they say in Star Wars..... That's no moon its a TM .... Move along nothing to see its a TM, look sir it's a TM (not a droid... ))

 

 

I'm on it dude! I think my decision has been made, just got to sell a few bits and bobs and I'll be getting one, in black of course, that's a no brainer ?‍♂️ I'm with you on that awful tan colour! I will report back with my thoughts on it and I'll let you know IF I get bored of it ?