Leader Bee Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I'm toying with the idea of picking up a machine gun in the future as I do more outdoors events, I'm aware that they're heavy and not everyone's cup o' tea but I'm also not sure what other cons they have, specifically I've heard internals need replacing regularly but I don't really know my way around AEG internals at all; ideally I'm looking at an mg42 but I'd consider other guns as well but I'd be grateful for more input from people that have actually used them before I take this any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 The gear boxs are slightly stronger they dont really need anything doing to them. You will have to change your stile of play these guns are heavy and ths whole point of them is to be support and allow your team cover to move. you could blow through 6000 rounds and not get a single kill all day. They are great for base defence and ambush just dont be expecting to run arround with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 The people that have told you that the internals need replacing regularly are lying to you. They need no more or less maintenance than any other AEG. The main con to the MG42 will be the massive hole it leaves in your bank account! As the proud owner of an M249 Para I say go for it! Use it as it's intended, don't try and make it into a 50RPS twatenwerfer and develop your love for laying about in the mud covering your mates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Bee Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lozart said: The main con to the MG42 will be the massive hole it leaves in your bank account! The AGM one is just over £600, there's no way I'd cough up the 1.5k for the other version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leader Bee said: The AGM one is just over £600, there's no way I'd cough up the 1.5k for the other version Still a chunk of cash! Do it though. MGs are bloody marvellous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Bee Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 B...b...but I only just bought an Sgr 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Leader Bee said: B...b...but I only just bought an Sgr 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Leader Bee said: I'm also not sure what other cons they have I'd question whether they do the role that you're imagining any better than (e.g.) this. Puff, spin, point. That's all any airsoft gun does. You can wrap another 6kg of MG-42 shaped steel around that, but the BB isn't going to know or care. Battery life? Run a springy cable out the back to an external battery. If you start looking for reasons not to pay more for a 7kg MG, you'll find them. But if it puts a grin on your face, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 The agm mg42 is not very strong, very easy to bend the reciever on them, had to fit reinforcing bars to mine. i'd imagine the g&g is much better although its got the price to match. Rogerborg is right, whilst there's something nice about a massive gun, and it'll definately grab attention, it wont do anything an arp with a drum mag cant do at a tiny fraction of the weight. If it were me i'd go for an a&k m60 or splash out on the g&g '42. There's a guy here has one on sale last i checked would be a fair bit cheaper than trying to buy new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enid_Puceflange Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Feck sake man Life too short for us all to be running around with M4 derivatives Crack on and hose them muppets down!!! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted August 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 21, 2019 id much rather be hosed by an lmg/hmg than a micro m4 with a box mag. you know what I mean 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tackle said: id much rather be hosed by an lmg/hmg than a micro m4 with a box mag. you know what I mean 😉 That you like getting done with long fat ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper780 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Personally, I prefer the A&K PKM over G&G MG-42. The A&K PKM is cheaper, lighter, decent gearbox, large battery compartment, better magazine feeding and capacity 5000rd more external customisation, decent gearbox and externals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted August 21, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: That you like getting done with long fat ones? doesn't everybody sweety 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 Some might say it's more about how hard and fast the piston slams in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Bee Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Sniper780 said: Personally, I prefer the A&K PKM over G&G MG-42. The A&K PKM is cheaper, lighter, decent gearbox, large battery compartment, better magazine feeding and capacity 5000rd more external customisation, decent gearbox and externals. I saw the mg42 had what I'd consider a small magazine for an lmg. Only 2500 round drum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted August 21, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Leader Bee said: I saw the mg42 had what I'd consider a small magazine for an lmg. Only 2500 round drum this is indeed the case, although it's still pretty decent. the agm one does not like 11.1v though, ask me how i know...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtTalbert Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Having owned the ARES/ASG M60 - it was brilliant, never gave me trouble and was a lot of fun. I only sold it because I'm more an urban player so it was normally left at home. However, should I buy another support gun, I'd probably opt for the Stoner. Why? Its lovely looking, full auto AND single which means most sites play the rule 'full auto outside and single inside' which means I can use it inside and out. I used a friends G&P ris version and albeit, was only half day use, it didnt misfeed once. range was good. weight was well balanced across the length of the rifle etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerDer Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Leader Bee said: I saw the mg42 had what I'd consider a small magazine for an lmg. Only 2500 round drum Yeah the PKM has a fairly hefty capacity. There is also an insert made by Bull Gear which boosts the PKM box to over 7000. https://www.airsoftzone.co.uk/7500rnd-improved-replacement-magazine-insert-for-akraptor-pkmpkp-series-box-magazine-bullgear.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper780 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Leader Bee said: I saw the mg42 had what I'd consider a small magazine for an lmg. Only 2500 round drum On the g&g the magazine capacity is it even smaller 1700rds and has a nasty habit of jamming but still trying to feed so it strips the gears and they are not cheap to replace and pain to swap mag mid-game. A bonus on the pkm is that you can still load the magazine while it still attached to the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollingsgrad Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 If you're anything like me, get the AEG you want first time because if you compromise you'll just want it again later. If you want an MG42, get that MG42; it's a cool looking toy. With regards to play style, @Rogerborg's right, slap a box magazine on anything and you're a support gunner in airsoft. That said, if you have a large AEG that's obviously meant to look like an LMG I find people treat you differently. Running my M249 Mk2 I get people asking me for cover fire, moving up when I'm covering. I've also been given permission to be the only auto guy in a semi auto game which people seemed to enjoy on both sides as it added some extra flavour. For this reason, I wouldn't go for a Stoner or Para as they're easily mistaken for ARs. Bet you wouldn't get that problem with the MG42 though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted August 23, 2019 Supporters Share Posted August 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Lollingsgrad said: a support gunner in airsoft Or, a "gunner". Consider that if you're slinging your balls close enough to your target that they're even aware of them, then you're firing for effect, same as everyone else. Might the "support" bit be more of a narrative device than an objective reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Just an add Taiwan gun have MG42 for 400 in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollingsgrad Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Rogerborg said: Might the "support" bit be more of a narrative device than an objective reality? It absolutely is a narrative device but the difference in gameplay is real in my experience. Also I'd point out "firing for effect" is a reasonable description of what you're supposed to be doing! You can argue the usefulness of the effect but if you keep picking at that thin veneer of fantasy you're going to end up concluding we should just be playing laser tag or at least with something where the ballistics involved aren't ass :B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted August 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted August 23, 2019 12 hours ago, Lollingsgrad said: If you're anything like me, get the AEG you want first time because if you compromise you'll just want it again later. If you want an MG42, get that MG42; it's a cool looking toy. With regards to play style, @Rogerborg's right, slap a box magazine on anything and you're a support gunner in airsoft. That said, if you have a large AEG that's obviously meant to look like an LMG I find people treat you differently. Running my M249 Mk2 I get people asking me for cover fire, moving up when I'm covering. I've also been given permission to be the only auto guy in a semi auto game which people seemed to enjoy on both sides as it added some extra flavour. For this reason, I wouldn't go for a Stoner or Para as they're easily mistaken for ARs. Bet you wouldn't get that problem with the MG42 though! non support guns with box mags is herecy lol, many of the sites I used to play banned their use because people take the piss, & end up more like speedsofters, what next, snipers leading the assault specialising in "360 no scope kills", absolutely no realism, I'm not saying every gameday has to be 100% factually & historically correct but some semblance of identifiable realism should be expected, otherwise what's the point of having so much kit to choose from, might as well have one model of "gun", capable of everything (which the anti gun/airsoft lobbies would probably love to push for, especially if it had no resemblance to a real gun) Think about it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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