Gamesmanship?

[Crazy_Crystal]

18 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said:

 

Was so dissapointed, got outvoted on going out in the snow, i was like "but muh enemy at the gates remake?"

haha, although you missed out there, playing in the snow is something else. 

 

definitely with you on the enemy of the gates remake or maybe the winter sniper duel at the end of the film shooter 😂

[Steveocee]

14 hours ago, Immortal said:

Speaking of gamesmanship:

 

I was playing a game at Apocalypse sunday just gone. I'd setup with another fella on the side of a road to ambush any players that had decided to follow our team who was escorting a medic to a casualty. Part of the afternoon game scenario... we were about 30-40 yards apart.

 

One enemy player stepped out and I sent a few rounds of burst fire his way. He never returned fire but called hit.

 

Now he was a gentlemen as I hadn't realised I'd made a schoolboy error; my midcap was empty so all I did was make a noise his way. DOH!

 

Nevertheless he called "hit" as I had the jump on him.

 

SO if you're a member on here "I thank you!" Very kind and sporting of him. Proper gentlemen.

 

Had to read that through twice, surely you mean sportsmanship? Gamesmanship is the opposite 😂

[Immortal]

7 minutes ago, Steveocee said:

 

Had to read that through twice, surely you mean sportsmanship? Gamesmanship is the opposite 😂

 

LOL I just googled "Gamesmanship" as I'd never really thought about that word before nor used it... yes, Sportsmanship.

 

I've amended the post but left it for all to see as I need to be made an example of...

[Steveocee]

24 minutes ago, Immortal said:

 

LOL I just googled "Gamesmanship" as I'd never really thought about that word before nor used it... yes, Sportsmanship.

 

I've amended the post but left it for all to see as I need to be made an example of...

 

I feel bad for pointing it out but I bet you use the phrase within the next week 😎

[Slamz]

 

16 hours ago, Immortal said:

Speaking of gamesmanship Sportsmanship :

 

I was playing a game at Apocalypse sunday just gone. I'd setup with another fella on the side of a road to ambush any players that had decided to follow our team who was escorting a medic to a casualty. Part of the afternoon game scenario... we were about 30-40 yards apart.

 

One enemy player stepped out and I sent a few rounds of burst fire his way. He never returned fire but called hit.

 

Now he was a gentlemen as I hadn't realised I'd made a schoolboy error; my midcap was empty so all I did was make a noise his way. DOH!

 

Nevertheless he called "hit" as I had the jump on him.

 

SO if you're a member on here "I thank you!" Very kind and sporting of him. Proper gentlemen.

 

Much better than my last time at Apoc, where someone tried to start a fight with me for shooting him. 

 

I'm behind a bush, catch a glimpse of him moving up reasonably close, I pop up and fire a very short burst at him, 2 BB hit him for sure. He ignores this and runs for cover, I give him a chance to call hit, he just keeps running. Another (slightly longer) burst, at least 2 hit him again. He then stops behind a tree and shouts 'What the fuck was that' I respond 'call your hits'. He then gets aggy, starts shouting, and demands I 'come over here then'. I got shot by someone near him, and called my hit straight away, I'm walking past him to go to respawn and he's still being a knob, I got a bit shouty back and he backed down.

 

Same guy we'd watched walking back to his respawn dead, only to turn and shoot 2 guys in the back on our team who had just passed him, as well as getting aggressive with multiple people for daring to shoot him. We had reported him to marshall's, as had numerous other people, nothing got done.

 

I don't understand it, you're gonna get shot, it's the name of the game! 😂

[Rogerborg]

43 minutes ago, Slamz said:

We had reported him to marshall's, as had numerous other people, nothing got done.

 

Did you grass the marshals to the site owner?

 

This is how sites get a bad reputation.  They should welcome being told.

[Tackle]

1 hour ago, Slamz said:

 

 

Much better than my last time at Apoc, where someone tried to start a fight with me for shooting him. 

 

I'm behind a bush, catch a glimpse of him moving up reasonably close, I pop up and fire a very short burst at him, 2 BB hit him for sure. He ignores this and runs for cover, I give him a chance to call hit, he just keeps running. Another (slightly longer) burst, at least 2 hit him again. He then stops behind a tree and shouts 'What the fuck was that' I respond 'call your hits'. He then gets aggy, starts shouting, and demands I 'come over here then'. I got shot by someone near him, and called my hit straight away, I'm walking past him to go to respawn and he's still being a knob, I got a bit shouty back and he backed down.

 

Same guy we'd watched walking back to his respawn dead, only to turn and shoot 2 guys in the back on our team who had just passed him, as well as getting aggressive with multiple people for daring to shoot him. We had reported him to marshall's, as had numerous other people, nothing got done.

 

I don't understand it, you're gonna get shot, it's the name of the game! 😂

shit like this is why I wont play at apocalypse again, I too ended up squaring up to someone who during a night game took his hit but then while calling for a medic continued talking to his mates & illuminating my team with a powerful taclight, when I called out that dead men don't talk, nor do they continue to use their equipment tactically, his response was to call me every kind of Cnut, needless to say it went downhill rapidly from there.

Turns out he's yet another typical "Regular", plays every gameday & mates with the owner (who's a bit of a knob), so obviously the rules don't apply to him 😉.

[Adolf Hamster]

31 minutes ago, Tackle said:

shit like this is why I wont play at apocalypse again, I too ended up squaring up to someone who during a night game took his hit but then while calling for a medic continued talking to his mates & illuminating my team with a powerful taclight, when I called out that dead men don't talk, nor do they continue to use their equipment tactically, his response was to call me every kind of Cnut, needless to say it went downhill rapidly from there.

Turns out he's yet another typical "Regular", plays every gameday & mates with the owner (who's a bit of a knob), so obviously the rules don't apply to him 😉.

 

see this i hate, site i started was like that, if you were a stranger they made damn sure they chrono'd your gun on .2's but the regulars would openly admit in the queue for the chrono that they were running the fps limit on .4's

 

if you're gonna have cheating then at least let it be equal opportunity cheating.

[Musica]

58 minutes ago, Rogerborg said:

 

Did you grass the marshals to the site owner?

 

This is how sites get a bad reputation.  They should welcome being told.

 

I had a marshall knife kill me at depot last time I was there. I had pushed up with a group to the enemy drug base and I  was holding an angle  then get knifed by the marshal who was standing 2 foot away when I took my position. I didn't realise it was a marshal until he stopped me while I was walking back saying I needed to hold my hand up he had knifed me. I was like yeah ok put me hand up and kept walking back to spwan. I was trying to be stealthy as I thought it was an actual player got in behind our group and was about to knife us all not wanting to give away his flank. I get the marshal might have seen me as just walking away after being killed maybe "pretend" I was back in once around a corner but the more I think about it is this something I should have complained about? He just ended my run at the base didn't kill anyone else in the group and he didn't even hit check me he knifed me which anyone can't dispute being knifed in the back of the shoulder. 

 

Really confuses me why he did it and at the time I didn't really think about it as until he stopped me while I was walking away I didn't even realise it was him as it was in a dark section.

[Immortal]

16 minutes ago, Musica said:

I had a marshall knife kill me at depot last time I was there.

 

That's bizarre! Why is a Marshal knife killing anyone in the first place? Or was he playing the game and a Marshal?

 

I've been test hit on occasions by Marshals but a knife kill is just odd...

 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

7 minutes ago, Immortal said:

 

That's bizarre! Why is a Marshal knife killing anyone in the first place? Or was he playing the game and a Marshal?

 

I've been test hit on occasions by Marshals but a knife kill is just odd...

 

 

 

More importantly why did he make you walk back? Honesty checks fair enough but let the person play on.

[Musica]

He wasn't a player full marshal  there were no marshals playing this game mode. 

[Immortal]

1 minute ago, Adolf Hamster said:

 

More importantly why did he make you walk back? Honesty checks fair enough but let the person play on.

 

Indeed, that would be normal. "Just checking for [insert reason here] Play on!"

 

1 minute ago, Musica said:

He wasn't a player full marshal  there were no marshals playing this game mode. 

 

That's out of order in that case. IMHO...

[Adolf Hamster]

2 minutes ago, Immortal said:

That's out of order in that case. IMHO...

 

i would like to know what kind of justification you could have for doing that, especially if the player has evidently done well to get into a good position you can't just end that for no reason.

[Tackle]

1 hour ago, Adolf Hamster said:

 

i would like to know what kind of justification you could have for doing that.

I know why, its because.........

 

 

obviously not you guys 😜

[Musica]

Yea I can't say I really understand it. Might be salty he took some fire intended for me while I ran past him to the position I took but not sure.  If anything he was in my way to fire back and I had to get past him to engage. 

 

Doesn't seem like a honesty check because I can't think why he would do it with a knife. If I knew it was him to start with I wouldn't of started walking towards spawn because I'd of expected him to give a reason. Then to tell me to put my hand up because I'm dead because HE knifed me as the icing on the cake. I had already mentally accepted the death so wasn't really questioning why at the time. 

[Adolf Hamster]

4 minutes ago, Tackle said:

I know why, its because.........

 

yeah, hard to argue with that logic right there.

[Slamz]

4 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

 

Did you grass the marshals to the site owner?

 

This is how sites get a bad reputation.  They should welcome being told.

 

Unfortunately the owner is as bad as the marshal's when it comes to things like this, they really don't care as long as people are paying. The 'regulars' quite often get away with doing whatever they like, such as never calling hits, and get away with it due to being pals, as Tackle also said.

 

It's why I don't go there anymore, especially as the South East has an abundance of much better sites.

[Tackle]

42 minutes ago, Slamz said:

 

Unfortunately the owner is as bad as the marshal's when it comes to things like this, they really don't care as long as people are paying.

yeah he's a slimey fucker who will do anything for a pound note, such as his "junior ranger" days, or some other noncey name, essentially allowing playing parents to bring along kids that would be considered too young to play at other sites, but there they can learn to play the "apoc way", which translates to "be a cheatin Cnut & do what you like" lol 😉

@Slamz, what kent sites are you finding any good at the minute ?

[Immortal]

Something else the Apoc site owner does is walk around trying to hard sell UKASA to punters saying it's the only one with insurance.

 

LOL That's what his public liability insurance is for!

 

And I hardly ever see a shop that asks for that as a way of buying rifs it at all– only UKARA.

 

I've had a few non hit takers there but if they're hit enough times everyone submits eventually....

 

I still prefer DogTag and that site owner IS a good bloke.

[EvilMonkee]

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

[Immortal]

3 hours ago, EvilMonkee said:

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

 

Not sure, only played there twice so I couldn't say.... there was a leaf suit marching about which made his camo a little pointless but it wasn't him.

 

Same dirty tactics of headshots though. Hit me in the eye and a mate had a really nasty bleeder on his forehead.

 

 

[Rogerborg]

5 hours ago, Musica said:

Really confuses me why he did it

 

The marshals there do attempt to keep games balanced, but that was a dick move.  Sorry that it happened.  You can talk to them in the safe zone afterwards though, they are sort of humans.

[Samurai]

2 hours ago, EvilMonkee said:

Its Apoc Airsoft where that twunt Licking Mustard plays? Happy to be wrong.

This is not the forum to spread hate. This is a place to build the community.

[Adolf Hamster]

1 hour ago, Rogerborg said:

 

The marshals there do attempt to keep games balanced, but that was a dick move.  Sorry that it happened.  You can talk to them in the safe zone afterwards though, they are sort of humans.

 

surely balancing games is about ensuring you don't put all the rentals on one team?

 

not gonna lie don't like the idea of marshalls randomly becoming part of the game, honesty shots are one thing but forcing people out of play for no good reason isnt on.