Another pistol from novritsch

[Daveoc33]

It's a TP-22

 

https://eu.novritsch.com/product/TP22-gas-blowback-pistol/

 

170 euros. Lots of pros on paper: tdc hop, non dropping barrel, glock mag compatable. It's made by ushot and novritsch is the distributer for them. It's says on wgc that the oem is TTI. Not heard of them either. It's only £88 on wgc but oos. https://www.wgcshop.com/products/ushot-ps-tp22

 

Its a bit ugly isn't it, but I'm at the stage now where just do long as the pistol shoots where I point it I'm happy! 

 

 

[EvilMonkee]

You want a functional pistol? Buy a TM

[Krisz]

12 minutes ago, Daveoc33 said:

It's a TP-22

 

https://eu.novritsch.com/product/TP22-gas-blowback-pistol/

 

170 euros. Lots of pros on paper: tdc hop, non dropping barrel, glock mag compatable. It's made by ushot and novritsch is the distributer for them. It's says on wgc that the oem is TTI. Not heard of them either. It's only £88 on wgc but oos. https://www.wgcshop.com/products/ushot-ps-tp22

 

Its a bit ugly isn't it, but I'm at the stage now where just do long as the pistol shoots where I point it I'm happy! 

 

 

I can't stand that cunt Novritsch so I'm not gonna support him anyway especially not financially.

Btw you can get that gun from here a lot cheaper: TP22.

[Daveoc33]

15 minutes ago, EvilMonkee said:

You want a functional pistol? Buy a TM

True, they are great. But I'm after a pistol that'll hop heavy bbs that isn't a mk23. I was expecting my TM fnx45 to do that but mine didn't unfortunately. My TM hi capa is definitely the most accurate pistol I have though 👍

[Cr0-Magnon]

You can get TDC kits for Hi-Capa's and even just an aftermarket hop unit should do the job.

[Impulse]

I'd rather build an AAP for €170, or just get a TM anything.

 

But I'm sure this pistol will be okay and people will buy it because I see a hell of a lot of Novritsch stuff around on skirmish days.

 

[Daveoc33]

13 minutes ago, Cr0-Magnon said:

You can get TDC kits for Hi-Capa's and even just an aftermarket hop unit should do the job.

Thanks. I've just had a look on hi capa hub and TTI themselves (the oem of this horrible looking pistol) make a tdc hop chamber for a hi capa. This has been an education! Thank you. 

[Enid_Puceflange]

14 minutes ago, Impulse said:

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But I'm sure this pistol will be okay and people will buy it because I see a hell of a lot of Novritsch stuff around on skirmish days.

 

You also see a lot of Nov stuff in the classifieds here. 
Probably listed after folk realise he has polished and overpriced a cheap turd

Edited November 5 by Enid_Puceflange

[ruskitseller]

1 hour ago, Krisz said:

I can't stand that cunt Novritsch so I'm not gonna support him anyway especially not financially.

Btw you can get that gun from here a lot cheaper: TP22.

Hi, I am not picking or meaning this condescendingly, but I genuinely wonder what the reason is you aren't keen on him? Maybe I have missed some sort of controversy. 

 

I looked around on reddit and seems he basically re-brands and adds a premium? 

 

Cheers  

 

 

Edited November 5 by ruskitseller

[Cannonfodder]

Bloody hell that's fugly.

 

I always thought he comes across as a bit of a tit in his videos but I can't really fault him for wanting to make a living from the hobby (I'm sure we all would if we could). Yes his stuff is all just cheap rebrands with a big mark up, but nobody is forced to buy it. What gets my goat is the cult of personality his sickophantic followers have built up around him. 

 

Edit: from a quick Google search he has been caught out writing and posting "independent" reviews of his products under a different name

Edited November 5 by Cannonfodder

[ButcherBill]

2 hours ago, Daveoc33 said:

Its a bit ugly isn't it

It's different, I like different.

[Krisz]

45 minutes ago, ruskitseller said:

Hi, I am not picking or meaning this condescendingly, but I genuinely wonder what the reason is you aren't keen on him? Maybe I have missed some sort of controversy. 

 

I looked around on reddit and seems he basically re-brands and adds a premium? 

 

Cheers  

 

 

He's very successful charging people for more when basically he puts a logo on guns. He's ike Umarex or Cybergun in one person.

That guy is full of controversy. Templars Gear fiasco is a good example of that.

Edited November 5 by Krisz

[ruskitseller]

49 minutes ago, Krisz said:

He's very successful charging people for more when basically he puts a logo on guns. He's ike Umarex or Cybergun in one person.

That guy is full of controversy. Templars Gear fiasco is a good example of that.

Thanks for the answer mate! He's a vet too (which I respect) I think and that probably adds weight to the sales pitch. 

 

He must be loaded so I also sort of respect his shrewd businessman dealings in a way. I suppose he is merely exploiting the buy low - sell high paradigm. 

 

Cheers

Edited November 5 by ruskitseller

[Colin Allen]

17 minutes ago, ruskitseller said:

He's a vet too (which I respect) I think and that probably adds weight to the sales pitch. 

My understanding is that he was a six month conscript.  If anyone has different information, I would be interested.

[Tommikka]

24 minutes ago, Colin Allen said:

My understanding is that he was a six month conscript.  If anyone has different information, I would be interested.

6 months is the conscription period for Austrian military service, which matches his claim

[MrTea]

3 hours ago, Daveoc33 said:

TTI themselves (the oem of this horrible looking pistol) make a tdc hop chamber for a hi capa

Been looking at one of those too - called the TTI Infinity IIRC? Fits 1911s which i'm looking at getting. They're £10 cheaper on Skirmshop if you're bothered.

I've used the TTI TDC VSR hop unit in my sniper and it works a treat so I can't see the pistol one being poor.

[Colin Allen]

5 minutes ago, Tommikka said:

6 months is the conscription period for Austrian military service, which matches his claim

Indeed it is; I am not sure that I would describe someone who was conscripted for six months as a veteran.

 

[Tommikka]

15 minutes ago, Colin Allen said:

Indeed it is; I am not sure that I would describe someone who was conscripted for six months as a veteran.

 

That would depend on anyone’s personal definition of veteran.  Some countries define it and some don’t 

 

 

In the UK it is any person who has served a minimum of one day in the regular or presence armed forces (and since left), or merchant navy on a military operation.  These are the qualifiers for support for service leavers, qualifying under the armed forces covenant and generally by service related charities etc with various different methods of validating that until the introduction of veterans badges and more recently the veterans card.

 

Novritsch ‘claims’ to have trained as a sniper in his national service, and markets airsoft products including ‘sniper’ related gear

Its not as if he’s claiming to be the 3rd sniper on the balcony 

 

 

 

 

 

[Colin Allen]

8 minutes ago, Tommikka said:

That would depend on anyone’s personal definition of veteran.  Some countries define it and some don’t 

 

 

In the UK it is any person who has served a minimum of one day in the regular or presence armed forces (and since left), or merchant navy on a military operation.  These are the qualifiers for support for service leavers, qualifying under the armed forces covenant and generally by service related charities etc with various different methods of validating that until the introduction of veterans badges and more recently the veterans card.

 

Novritsch ‘claims’ to have trained as a sniper in his national service, and markets airsoft products including ‘sniper’ related gear

Its not as if he’s claiming to be the 3rd sniper on the balcony 

 

 

 

 

 

I am not arguing that he is claiming to have been anything that he was not, just that the term "veteran" may not be entirely appropriate for someone who did six months national service.

However, I do find the UK definition vaguely ridiculous; both of my sons would qualify as veterans if they ended their reserve service now, but I know that they would be utterly embarrassed to apply the description to themselves.

[ButcherBill]

I occasionally mention my time in the TA but would never claim to be a veteran of any kind, I usually stress that it was the TA incase anyone suspects I'm a Walter.

Closest I ever got to deployment was my call up papers for the first Gulf War, it was over before we even got in a landy.

I see how many Reservists actually get deployed these days & feel embarassed about my service.

[ruskitseller]

11 hours ago, ButcherBill said:

I occasionally mention my time in the TA but would never claim to be a veteran of any kind, I usually stress that it was the TA incase anyone suspects I'm a Walter.

Closest I ever got to deployment was my call up papers for the first Gulf War, it was over before we even got in a landy.

I see how many Reservists actually get deployed these days & feel embarassed about my service.

Nothing to be embarrassed of being a STAB, although I do get what you mean by stressing it was TA/reserves. Also I think it really depends what reg and unit you are in nowadays.

 

Its the MOD who define what a Vet is so that lies with them really. I think it is interesting for me because, I tend to think of a vet as...I don't know say someone who has been in 8 years and leaves as a full screw lol. I suppose its a grey area to define though, and so "vets" come in all different forms. But maybe vet status should only be applied for "insert arbitrary number of days served here" but this is going beyond our pay grades to define I think haha.  

 

That all said, I have said this to guys who only did weeks or days - there is no shame. In my book, serving for a week or whatever it is better than never having tried and serving a day at all. Quite a few lads get injured, or ill and have no choice but to chin it off or get casevac'd.

 

I don't really get the entire Novritsch thing and don't really know of the guy other than seeing a couple of his vids and looking at his website once or twice, but 6 months as a conscript is more than 0 months/days served, so is respectable to me. (not that serving is the only way to gain respect of course!)

 

Now, weren't we talking about a new airsoft pistol? 🤣 I typed in "Novritsch controversy" on youtube and all it seemed to show is clickbait titles that are actually for the most part praising him.

 

Cheers

 

 

Edited November 6 by ruskitseller

[mightyjebus]

I've got my veterans card as I did 13 years in a organisation similar to being in the military, the RAF. If you did 1 day or 22 years the card is worth getting as you can get 1/3 off every train ticket out there for 30 quid a year. 

 

going back to the original post about Novichok, there does seem to be a high number of his airsoft parts in the 2nd hand market which kind of suggests people buy them and aren't exactly happy with their purchase.

[ruskitseller]

52 minutes ago, mightyjebus said:

I've got my veterans card as I did 13 years in a organisation similar to being in the military, the RAF. If you did 1 day or 22 years the card is worth getting as you can get 1/3 off every train ticket out there for 30 quid a year. 

 

going back to the original post about Novichok, there does seem to be a high number of his airsoft parts in the 2nd hand market which kind of suggests people buy them and aren't exactly happy with their purchase.

Yeah mate, They also let you keep your mod 90 now too, although they clip a corner off. You can get in some great places with it - e.g you can do a whole day at Plymouth dockyards going around HMS Victory etc. It's a great day (probably need two to really enjoy it) out. 

 

But yes, ahem! Back on point. You are right about there being lots of second hand Nov kit on market - but is there really anymore than say...TM or G&G and thus can we draw the same conclusion that people are also unhappy with a variety of brands? Is it just GAS (gear acquisition syndrome) haha!

 

Cheers

Edited November 6 by ruskitseller

[Cannonfodder]

Re the amount of novirich gear sold second hand. In addition to the gear acquisition syndrome @ruskitsellermentioned it could be that a sizeable chunk of his target market are the players who don't want to spend time building their own upgraded gun. Not having invested time into it the chances are they're more likely to sell it on

[Kzwi]

13 minutes ago, Cannonfodder said:

a sizeable chunk of his target market are the players who don't want to spend time building their own upgraded gun

Absolutely, I bought the SSP5 to replace my TM 5.1, bought it because I liked the look of it and i wanted to see what the fuss is about on novritsch replicas.

 

It's decent, I could get a TM Hi Capa to shoot better and farther with upgrades, and I have in the past.

 

But it's a decent little pew pew for that money, i would not rate it as awesome value, but decent, and sometimes, you just want a replica that'll shoot instead of another project. Especially when we all know those project guns, we all have a highly specific list of parts that can take time to track down.