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The AAP-01 Owners Thread.


Cr0-Magnon

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  • 6 months later...

Long time! How are we all doing?

 

Purely in terms of springs (I'm using the stock bolt), what do we think the formula for best gas efficiency (ie not ROF or trigger speed of semi shots).

 

I'm not entirely convinced a stronger recoil spring is the way to go, so was going to short-stroke the stock one. However what's the function of the nozzle spring? Or rather, how would it affect gas usage?

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For gas efficiency a weak recoil spring seems logical as the striker ( the thing that presses the  mag valve)gets reset when the bolt travels back and the spring resists this.

 

The nozzle spring shouldn't make any difference to gas usage, it's purpose in life is to pull the nozzle out of the way so it can return and scoop up another bb for the next shot.

 

Only when you are getting high ROF will a stronger spring help there, maybe if you have short stroked it and or added a stronger recoil spring, then its about timing.

 

I was thinking earlier today how poor the seal is between the recoil piston and it's cylinder( nozzle) is and how to improve that. It should speed up the recoil and perhaps reduce gas consumption, cos I know mine chucks out a lot  of gas at the end of the barrel. Way too much gas per shot I feel.

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23 hours ago, Dobbin66 said:

Is the airtac wombo combo bundle any any good

 

I've no experience with it, but they're a reliable retailer and it looks a decent bundle. I would pick one up if I was a bit more CQB inclined.

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That's not a bad price to be fair!

 

My mate had a gen 1 Glock adapter from them, which broke quite quickly. They were pretty quick at getting replacement parts out and re- designed the mag release because quite a few people were having the same issue with it snapping!

 

I think they're shotgun shell adapters are very clever!

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Does anyone know if any Glock trigger springs are a direct replacement? I can only find one shop which sells an AAP spring set and they seemingly won't post to The UK.

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13 hours ago, Cr0-Magnon said:

Does anyone know if any Glock trigger springs are a direct replacement? I can only find one shop which sells an AAP spring set and they seemingly won't post to The UK.

 

Have you had a look on Empire Airsoft?

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  • 3 weeks later...

@Steveocee I believe you posted a vid about a mini mamba setup. You had a longer barrel running out the front. Did you ever put in a shorter barrel? And if so what sort of velocity were you getting?

I'm struggling to get over .5 joules with green gas. 84mm 6.02 barrel. 

 

 Be interested to see if it's a discrepancy my end or the limits of that length of inner barrel. 

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On 20/12/2023 at 14:58, Hunka1988 said:

@Steveocee I believe you posted a vid about a mini mamba setup. You had a longer barrel running out the front. Did you ever put in a shorter barrel? And if so what sort of velocity were you getting?

I'm struggling to get over .5 joules with green gas. 84mm 6.02 barrel. 

 

 Be interested to see if it's a discrepancy my end or the limits of that length of inner barrel. 

 

Nope not me.

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Would anyone know if airsoft websites are getting the ctm aap-01 holster back in stock? Seems tk be out of stock everywhere.

 

Unless they've replaced it with the galaxy one now?

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  • 4 weeks later...

The stock one is decent and fits perfectly with the stock hop unit and rubber. 

 

If you want to upgrade for upgradings sake, the stalker stuff looks high-end...

 

https://www.skirmshop.co.uk/morpheus-dual-bore-aap-01-barrel-129mm.html

 

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  • 4 months later...

Small update on mine.

 

Did some unnecessary shopping and bought two CowCow fire pin locks, two TTI piston heads and two TTI npas valves.

It took 10 minutes to install everything, now I just need to chrono them and find a suitable allen key to tune the power on the fly.

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I've been having lots of issues with mine recently. Upgraded the hammer set, auto sear and fire pin lock to the cowcow stainless steel stuff and now my AAP jams every so often. It feels like the hammer doesn't cock back fully and I have to remove the magazine, push the blowback unit forward, then put the magazine back in and manually cock it. If I push it forward with the magazine still in, it fires and I have to manually cock it back again.

 

Also upgraded the blowback unit to be the cowcow lightweight one, but I know it's not the upper because the upper works with my stock lower, and my stock upper also doesn't work on the cowcow parts upgraded lower.

 

I hate it 🤬

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  • 2 weeks later...

Did you post that on a Facebook thread a day or two ago?

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There was a guy asking yesterday if there was a welrod pistol available, so i posted a pic of it. :)

I mean, other than 3d printing or that japanese guy that hand makes stuff for a small mortgage, theres nothing out there. 

It felt a bit mean cutting off the trigger guard...  🪚

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  • 2 weeks later...

Not that I ever use my AAP but I've got one of these set aside for when I next pop in for a coffee and catch up! I believe they're due in next week or the week after! 

 

I've got a NexxSpeed hop unit in one of my Hi Capa's and I'm really impressed with it! So hopefully this is just as impressive!

 

I was going to get a Loki for it but I like the fact this has a wheel that can be accessed when the bolt is pulled back!!

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Interesting! I wonder if it'd be possible to access in a black mamba upper, the ejection port on those is quite a bit smaller than stock. Not that I have any issues with my AA CNC chamber.

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28 minutes ago, Cr0-Magnon said:

Interesting! I wonder if it'd be possible to access in a black mamba upper, the ejection port on those is quite a bit smaller than stock. Not that I have any issues with my AA CNC chamber.

One thing that will always puzzle me is how most of these parts are "one dimensional", designed around ONE part (stock upper receiver in this case) without taking in consideration what's available on the market.

 

With that being said, TDCs are a well established upgrade that more and more manufacturers are incorporating in their designs, a few of them actually include drilling jigs (either made of metal or "single use" plastic/3d printed parts) to have a clean end result, which will also drop manufacturing costs for things like dials and leverages in general.

Now I am not saying those chambers suck, but from a designing perspective they're less efficient and convenient than, say, the first iteration of the Stalker TDC kit.

 

Okay you need an additional tool (hex key) to adjust the hop, but let's be real for a second, unless one brings 6 mags with 6 different BB weights in them, there is absolutely no reason to set the hop mid game, especially in a pistol that doesn't see much use outside of close range cqb environments or close range backup to a primary that requires a MED.

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Let's face it, most pistols are "upgraded" purely for the sake of messing around with it. If you just want a reliable sidearm for the odd occasion you are close enough and actually remember to use it, then you could get pretty much any of the TM line and stick 0.20's in them. As I say I've got the AA CNC chamber, with stock rubber and nub, plus a 150mm Maple Leaf Crazyjet Barrel. I can hop 0.40's more metres than I'd ever try with a pistol. For use at up to 30M, I've currently set it up for 0.25's (also as this is the weight of the tracer BB's I may eventually use in CQB). I find much heavier and the BB's casually sail through the air, leaving my target plenty of time to duck for cover.

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