AlMcCann Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 So its been 31 days since I placed an order with SWAT for one of their VTG’s. I sent 10+ emails and never got a response. In that time I have managed to speak to one of the owners, Christine, 3 times on the phone and was promised each time that my order would be going out ‘after the weekend’. My most recent call to them was on Friday last week. Its now Thursday and still no grenade. I am probably going to ask for my money back as its gone past the point of being remotly funny anymore. Sadly I am guessing that this too will be a nightmare to organise. Never experienced a worse customer service experience in my entire life and would advise anyone thinking of purchasing from SWAT to stay WELL clear of them and get a Dynatex instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators djben9 Posted May 3, 2018 Moderators Share Posted May 3, 2018 same people....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 Yup, same people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 The upshot was that my CC issuer took SWAT's side. Since I did actually get the grenade eventually, I decided not to push it to the Ombudsman, and instead sent them their card back in tiny pieces. Freepost, which was nice. But yes, I'd get it cancelled and start down the refund track with your card issuer ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 I have got my bank to stick a disputed transaction mark on the purchase. Just have to send them a letter now to make it official. I also let SWAT know as I managed to get one of their mobile numbers, so I expect I will be hearing from them soon (but probably not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsh Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Didn't a similar thing happen with the Alphatec HEX grenades? IIRC they were ok at first then the guy who made them split from the business and then orders got stuck in limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, newsh said: Didn't a similar thing happen with the Alphatec HEX grenades? Yes. Their web site (I won't link to it) is still up, still apparently taking money, and still claiming "same day dispatch" from stock. Their Facebook presence hasn't been updated in 2 years, and the comments are just people saying "Where's my grenade?" Reminder: https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CES_williamson Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Almost had a heart attack.... Sad to hear about a retailer doing this sort of thing, I have never dealt with them in the past but I will see if I can get any useful info for you from anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 such a shame its turning out like this, on paper it's a good product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, CES_williamson said: Almost had a heart attack.... Sad to hear about a retailer doing this sort of thing, I have never dealt with them in the past but I will see if I can get any useful info for you from anyone What was the name of your store? Need some bits and might give you a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CES_williamson Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Just now, ImTriggerHappy said: What was the name of your store? Need some bits and might give you a try. SWAS, link in the signature or www.swasairsoft.co.uk I am expanding the RIF stock at the moment so a few cheap bits still left in the clearance sale + loads more lovely RIF's coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, CES_williamson said: SWAS, link in the signature or www.swasairsoft.co.uk I am expanding the RIF stock at the moment so a few cheap bits still left in the clearance sale + loads more lovely RIF's coming soon More after parts than whole guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CES_williamson Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 10 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: More after parts than whole guns. drop me a PM and I can try to get things ordered in for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted May 3, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, CES_williamson said: Almost had a heart attack.... Sad to hear about a retailer doing this sort of thing, I have never dealt with them in the past but I will see if I can get any useful info for you from anyone I thought the same when I saw the title, thought somebody had complained there was only 4,999 bb's in 5k bag or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 How strange..... I emailed SWAT a copy of the letter my bank sent me saying they have begun the process of claiming back my payment and as if by magic I had a phonecall less than 10 minutes later saying my VTG was ready for delivery. I got a tracking number and everything, with a projected delivery date of this coming Thursday. Still wont ever buy from them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted May 9, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 9, 2018 Yes, my VTG was also sent after I'd cancelled the order, initiated a chargeback and told them so. Urgh, you can't even cancel an order with them. Given that my CC issuer just took their word that they'd sent the (unwanted, cancelled) goods, it shows that our ostensible consumer protections are about as useful as a chocolate fireguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted May 9, 2018 Root Admin Share Posted May 9, 2018 I too sent in some Dynatex BFGs to be 'serviced' (they were second hand and the timer was off on one of them, so I wanted them cleaned and the spring replaced if necessary). They came back and were no different. No convinced they ever actually did anything with them, but having read this thread I'm glad that I actually got them back. Managed to fix them myself the week after. Again another case where it wasn't enough money to start proceedings over, but maybe I should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I've got one of those nades that has a cap you can fill with bb's, water, talc etc... and I have an idea. Just need to improve my aim when pooping into small containers now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 I got them to include (for free) some of the little brass valves so I can service it if required down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 On 5/8/2018 at 7:48 PM, AlMcCann said: How strange..... I emailed SWAT a copy of the letter my bank sent me saying they have begun the process of claiming back my payment and as if by magic I had a phonecall less than 10 minutes later saying my VTG was ready for delivery. I got a tracking number and everything, with a projected delivery date of this coming Thursday. Still wont ever buy from them again. Same here, but no phone call, just an email with dispatch notification and tracking number from Hermes. Hopefully it will arrive and I will be delighted. Just wish SWAT would "pull their finger out" and give honest/realistic waiting time info to their customers. Instead of all the next day dispatch crap that is on their website. It would save a lot of bother if expectations were set before ordering. Onwards to many bangs......... 🌟 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted May 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted May 10, 2018 So Thursday is Big Bang Day? Fingers crossed for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Missed the Hermes truck today lol. Have already organised with them to deliver tomorrow morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlMcCann Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Delivered about 15 minutes ago. Tested and working fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver1 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 mines delivered this morning. Have tested without a charge in it. Seem to be spot on 3 seconds until it fires. All in i am impressed. 😊 Will have to wait until next week to get some blanks to test it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeFrag.UK Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Tried emailing SWAT the other day to inquire about stock as I was planning to place an order tomorrow but no reply. I called them today to ask if they had stock of the olive drab version of the VTG available as I was planning to place an order for a pair and collect them after work using the collection option as this shows up when accessing the site from my mobile. Apparently this is no longer an option and it's Hermes only. I was also informed that they don't have any of the olive drab or tan in stock at present and are unsure when they will receive the next batch. It's a shame as I'm all for supporting the little guy but in this instance I think I'll just pick up a couple of the Dynatex timed delay BFG's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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