emilianoksa Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I'm not thinking about guns with very short barrels like the G&G Firehawk, but the likes of the LCT AK sub carbines and the G36c clones. Even the 9" and 12" M4s or the MP5. Since the site limit for full auto guns is 350 fps, and these guns are all capable of that, does barrel length really matter? Or is barrel and hop up quality the important factor for longer range shooting? The inner barrel of a G36c is about 255 mm and the sub carbine AKs are 270mm. I prefer these shorter guns because they are easier to carry around and lighter. A full size AK used in woodland might look cool, but the weight is likely to be very tiring. Do any of you ever use your CQB guns outside?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Barrel length doesnt really do much. Shorter guns work fine outside. Hell my pistol outranges my combat machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilianoksa Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thanks for the replly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted March 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted March 29, 2018 i see plenty of people using short barreled guns outdoors and it's just fine. as long as you're doing the same fps as everyone else and you've got a decent setup the accuracy is perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just buy a Vector, you’ll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted March 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted March 29, 2018 Anything with a barrel over about 200mm (inner barrel length that is) will be fine. Under that and it can get a bit questionable on accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Anything over 200mm doesn't do anything for accuracy. Use heavier BBS (0.28g) and ensure you have a completely consistent air seal/air delivery, and that your hop up will consistently lift the heavier BBS without needing too much hop pressure applied. As long as your stock barrel isn't tragically bad (G&G or Nuprol crap aluminum tubes) then you'll notice minimal gains from 'upgrading' it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Range is almost exclusively determined by your hop rubber and FPS. I have a mk23 pistol that’s 305ish FPS on a .2 and will send a .43 70m. I have a Tm mp7 with a standard 144mm barrel and that’s throws .36 bb’s 60m hop bucking>B.B. weight>FPS>barrel quality>Wind> barrel length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davegolf Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 ^They are epic but they are also gas guns TM P90s are excellent and IMH the best small gun with a big range, midcaps hold loads of ammo, they are really quiet too! MP5s from ICS and G&G are also excellent for In and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators djben9 Posted March 29, 2018 Moderators Share Posted March 29, 2018 38 minutes ago, Davegolf said: ^They are epic but they are also gas guns TM P90s are excellent and IMH the best small gun with a big range, midcaps hold loads of ammo, they are really quiet too! MP5s from ICS and G&G are also excellent for In and out or the ICS G33f (G36), uses M4 mags as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted March 29, 2018 Head Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just use a TM gun, it is good for indoors or outside, distance shooting or close range. And Mk23 pistol, perfect for CQB or not. However, if you cannot carry the gun all day then you may either need a better sling or just a LARP knife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted March 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted March 31, 2018 Well, now I know what I'll be using next weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Well, now I know what I'll be using next weekend. Needs a drum mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted March 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted March 31, 2018 Well, now I know what my next purchase will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibo7 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 29/03/2018 at 12:12 PM, Hangtight said: Anything over 200mm doesn't do anything for accuracy. Use heavier BBS (0.28g) and ensure you have a completely consistent air seal/air delivery, and that your hop up will consistently lift the heavier BBS without needing too much hop pressure applied. As long as your stock barrel isn't tragically bad (G&G or Nuprol crap aluminum tubes) then you'll notice minimal gains from 'upgrading' it. Are G&G barrels considered crappy? I've never heard that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangtight Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Cheaper G&G Combat Machines come with a very average quality aluminium tube inner barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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