AlphaBear Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 5 hours ago, GothicGhost said: Also UPS came and thanks to this thread I am £600 down and still more stuff I need to order 🤣🤣 Well serves you right for reading this thread lol What are your plans for the CQBR? 4 hours ago, SSPKali said: I would but they are all assembled as I have been testing them! One day when I am bored I will EDIT I have measured the very old and worn TM one and the "old" but less used DP one - the DP is 0.41mm longer over all. New pic is the TM (left) and Old DP (right) side by side. It seems that the lightweight bolt has worse issues with low fps randomness. I think that certain combinations of bolt and nozzle mean the the BB can be seated too deep in the bucking meaning less fps and hop. New TM bucking with 4 clicks on the adjuster...may need one or two more but I only have a 10m range! DP nozzle with DP valve and G&P stop (low) in a DP lightweight bolt is giving 260fps (0.30g, ASG gas, 14degC) Same set up with G&P stop in the mid position = 315fps. No weird drops in power, all nice and consistent TM bolt with AG Mk2 complete nozzle is giving 270fps +/-5fps. Plenty of adjustment either way to compensate for the weather and ammo weight. I have the TM and AG Mk1 nozzles as spare spares should I trash the other two! The strange results with the TM nozzle are more than likely down to the wear on the front end of the nozzle... I would expect each shot to drop by an FPS or 2 simply due to the reduction in the volume of gas and hence less pressure in the mag. The erratic behaviour implies there is as compression issue that's for sure.... Also make sure the sealing buffer (the rubber washer) is properly lubed up each time you take the bolt apart... SSPKali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGhost Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 8 hours ago, AlphaBear said: Well serves you right for reading this thread lol What are your plans for the CQBR I was looking at putting the nuprol bocca series 3 rail on it with 5ku 7inch barrel but I don't if that would fit asI read on pages 3/4 I think some had trouble with nuprol rail. The stock rail pretty nice to be fair as well And then the normal upgrades like the brass nub and spare nozzle + springs mosly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post quango2k Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 She is complete.....for now. SSPKali, GothicGhost, RMDavis and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGhost Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 That's really nice....I need more money for my dream build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 22 hours ago, AlphaBear said: For nozzle springs just get the ones Eagle6 make. Trying to get the Marui ones will not be easy. You just need to keep an eye out on the Japanese and HK airsoft sites as they tend to have the MWS parts in more frequently. Mind you nozzles and springs don’t hang around long so it’s the luck of the draw or a stock alert email. PTS adapter - I use one but still had to use shims to achieve a tight fit. I added a couple to get my MK18 rail to fit snug. Which of the springs is it I need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunbod007 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Think my Hop rubber is very slightly uneven since installing the SixG nub? Should I just reseat the bucking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBear Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, gunbod007 said: Think my Hop rubber is very slightly uneven since installing the SixG nub? Should I just reseat the bucking? You know you've just answered your own question right? 😂 But yes, I'd do the same... just make sure when you reseat it the rubber is in the correct position. Make sure when you slap both halves of the hop chamber together you don't bulge/buckle/sag/push or whatever the right word is to the rubber... but you know what I mean.. Edited April 30, 2021 by AlphaBear SSPKali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGhost Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) I don't know if it's because I have brand new magazines but loading them with the m4 style speed loader feels impossible The tube loader that comes with the gun is really good but I can't carry that around with me in field lol. Edited April 30, 2021 by GothicGhost quango2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quango2k Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, GothicGhost said: I don't know if it's because I have brand new magazines but loading them with the m4 style speed loader feels impossible The tube loader that comes with the gun is really good but I can't carry that around with me in field lol. Are you using a genuine TM speed loader? I have a nuprol one which is next to useless and my TM one works perfectly. Groot and Tom_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGhost Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 50 minutes ago, quango2k said: Are you using a genuine TM speed loader? I have a nuprol one which is next to useless and my TM one works perfectly. Yeah I bought the nuprol one....😅 quango2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBear Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GothicGhost said: Yeah I bought the nuprol one....😅 Anything Nuprol is #bleep# The Marui XL speed loader... you simply can't beat it for the MWS mags! Edited April 30, 2021 by AlphaBear quango2k and SSPKali 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypokondrikern Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, AlphaBear said: Anything Nuprol is #bleep# The Marui XL speed loader... you simply can't beat it for the MWS mags! True, it's perfect for OG mags. But not so good for the after market mags like A1A, Prowin and G&P. I wish I would have saved the 20 euros because my standard speed loader loads the Ace1Arms perfectly while the TM XL only get them to around 26 bbs. Can't wait for the GunsModify Pmags... quango2k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBear Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Hypokondrikern said: True, it's perfect for OG mags. But not so good for the after market mags like A1A, Prowin and G&P. I wish I would have saved the 20 euros because my standard speed loader loads the Ace1Arms perfectly while the TM XL only get them to around 26 bbs. Can't wait for the GunsModify Pmags... I don't have any third party mags so can't comment I'm afraid.... With regards to the Marui XL it loads 4 bb's at a time so I usually do about 6 pumps and then struggle with the last couple. Having said that the more you use the mags the easier the spring will become to load bbs, so I've heard, but that's not worked for me yet... I've no idea what the longevity of the Marui XL is like but it's all plastic so I expect the MWS springs will destroy it at some-point sooner rather than later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Weasel Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Right folks, sorry I can't for the life of me figure out how to search within a thread but my question is:- asg blaster's- safe enough to shoot for chrono on an mws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicGhost Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Sorry to ask about another rail but would the G&P Multi-Task Fore Change System 8 Inch fit the MWS? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Airsoft-Multi-Task-Change-Handguard-M-T-F-C/dp/B07SKBZCMM Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaBear Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Wild Weasel said: Right folks, sorry I can't for the life of me figure out how to search within a thread but my question is:- asg blaster's- safe enough to shoot for chrono on an mws? ASG Devil Blasters are fine as a few folks on here have said. To be honest they ain’t my first choice for an MWS but as you’re just using them to chrono the rif they will suffice. The devil blasters are the more higher end of BB of the blaster range. Wild Weasel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypokondrikern Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) Hey @GothicGhost 99% of all after market free float rails / handguards will work on the MWS. Just get the shim from PTS and you are ready to go. The problem usually lies with those handguards relying on fixture both at the barrel nut and front sight post. good luck! Edited May 1, 2021 by Hypokondrikern GothicGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Weasel Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Right folks I've had it with npas. What's the best option for sub 350fps on a standard setup using propane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSPKali Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Wild Weasel said: Right folks I've had it with npas. What's the best option for sub 350fps on a standard setup using propane? What weight BBs are you using? What length barrel? The stock set up and 250mm barrel will be fine on 0.20 to 0.25g...any heavier and Joule creep is a pain. What NPAS have you been using? The G&P valve stop (https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gp-marui-mws-gbb-adjustable-piston-valve) is good for having a low / med / high setting and no chance of adjusting its self. Search back a few pages and I posted some test data on it Wild Weasel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Weasel Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SSPKali said: What weight BBs are you using? What length barrel? The stock set up and 250mm barrel will be fine on 0.20 to 0.25g...any heavier and Joule creep is a pain. What NPAS have you been using? The G&P valve stop (https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gp-marui-mws-gbb-adjustable-piston-valve) is good for having a low / med / high setting and no chance of adjusting its self. Search back a few pages and I posted some test data on it Been using r a tech npas, standard setup with geoff's 0.32g bb's. Update one on order from firesupport as we speak. Sorry for the bone questions, I have just finished reading the entire thread again and to be honest there's a lot of conflicting advice, I remember your post now and the take away that I took from that was this item didn't provide enough power and you ended up sanding down the end of the valve blocker and ruining it? Anyway I've bought one now so I will give it a go go and if I need to slightly adjust I will probably lengthen the spring by stretching it or maybe cutting my new amount down till I get a reasonable FPS. I'm going for about 270 FPS on 0.32g bb's Cheers for answering though I will give it a go. Edited May 1, 2021 by Wild Weasel Update SSPKali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSPKali Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Wild Weasel said: Been using r a tech npas, standard setup with geoff's 0.32g bb's. Cheers Standard set up was giving me 268fps on 0.30g with ASG gas (green gas) at 14degC Sanding the prongs down on the G&P stopper gave a better range of FPS, stock it was a bit low. High is now 295fps so will be good for cold days. Middle is now 265fps in current weather so ok for now (12-18degC) There are people who have had good results from making the TM valve into an NPAS by drilling a 2.5mm hole then threading in a hot 3mm grub screw into it. Edited May 1, 2021 by SSPKali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyjebus Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Picked up a couple of ACE1 ARMS PMAG's for my MWS. They seem good and the weight is 399g compared to the 453g for my Marui magazines. Tempted to swap out the 6 marui mags for another 6 of the ACE1 ARMS magazines. GothicGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniLuxy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Hello, finally my baby is finished... in about ~90% External upgrades: - FAB Defence GL-CORE S stock - FAB Defence PTK-M front grip - FAB Defence AGR-43 pistol grip - HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard - Revanchist ambi fire selector - FMA Specter suppressor with Acetech AR2000R module inside Internal upgrades: - EDGI Steel inner barrel 6,03mm/263mm - Maple Leaf MR 60 - Maple Leaf omega nub - Dynamic Precision Reinforced Aluminum Valve Blocker - G&P Marui MWS Aluminum Buffer V2 - G&P CNC Adjustable Power Nozzle Valve( Level 2 ) ( 4.0 ) - G&P Marui MWS Roller Bolt - Dynamic Precision Enhanced Sealing Buffer Future upgrades: - Ambi mag release - Ambi charging handle - Magpul BAD lever - Magpul or SI Cobra trigger guard - two stage trigger And I have a question to G&P Nozzle Valve ( 4.0 ) users. What fps/joules you have on max settings? At least I think is max settings... A screw should be all inside the nozzle right? Because I have only ~310fps/1,24J on 0,28g it's just a little above 350fps(0,2g) using Nuprol 2.0 green gas. I was hoping that at least ~450fps/1,8J(0,2g) would be drawn 😕. Maybe I messed up sth during re-assembling? SSPKali and GothicGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Diddy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, MiniLuxy said: Hello, finally my baby is finished... in about ~90% External upgrades: - FAB Defence GL-CORE S stock - FAB Defence PTK-M front grip - FAB Defence AGR-43 pistol grip - HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard - Revanchist ambi fire selector - FMA Specter suppressor with Acetech AR2000R module inside Internal upgrades: - EDGI Steel inner barrel 6,03mm/263mm - Maple Leaf MR 60 - Maple Leaf omega nub - Dynamic Precision Reinforced Aluminum Valve Blocker - G&P Marui MWS Aluminum Buffer V2 - G&P CNC Adjustable Power Nozzle Valve( Level 2 ) ( 4.0 ) - G&P Marui MWS Roller Bolt - Dynamic Precision Enhanced Sealing Buffer Future upgrades: - Ambi mag release - Ambi charging handle - Magpul BAD lever - Magpul or SI Cobra trigger guard - two stage trigger And I have a question to G&P Nozzle Valve ( 4.0 ) users. What fps/joules you have on max settings? At least I think is max settings... A screw should be all inside the nozzle right? Because I have only ~310fps/1,24J on 0,28g it's just a little above 350fps(0,2g) using Nuprol 2.0 green gas. I was hoping that at least ~450fps/1,8J(0,2g) would be drawn 😕. Maybe I messed up sth during re-assembling? Nothing to do with your question, but having spent all that money on producing a cracking gun, please, do yourself a favour and protect it by investing in a more robust sling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniLuxy Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, C-Diddy said: Nothing to do with your question, but having spent all that money on producing a cracking gun, please, do yourself a favour and protect it by investing in a more robust sling. Yeah, I planning in the future to change a sling to magpul or vtac. It's just temporary because my funds dried out... even over spent a little bit xD and this Viper sling was on discount and looked nice. It's not that bad but it's not excellent either. It should hold for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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