Happy Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 https://thumpyairsoft.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/first-video-of-tokyo-marui-aa-12-shotgun-itsuyaitsuya-on-youtube/ Suffice to say my fund for an m870 has been switched to this...
Supporters Esoterick Posted May 14, 2015 Supporters Posted May 14, 2015 I'm hoping these have some sort of bolt stop function as it's the one thing i'd like my breacher to have.
Tad Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Automatic electric shotgun AA-12 type name: AA-12 overall length: 839mm (planned) Weight: 4,200g (planned) gun Height: TBD Mag Size: 90 shots Round: 6mm BB power source: Mini S battery Completely new unit (3 cylinder radio box) mounted electric shotgun using a metal inner frame and rigidity. 3 shot independent adjustable variable hop system equipped with a barrel that is this 3 I looks. Full auto appears to be 10 shots x 3 barrels a second When you pull the cocking lever, hop adjustment dial triple looks. Marui's first FET fitted motor is located in the stock. Semi-full switchable. S Safe The center position is semi-automatic. Semi-automatic is the electric gun unique system. F is fire Rear site stamp of AA-12 Not bad specs And the New Mosfet being pre-installed?? Translated from http://miridoru.militaryblog.jp/e6594
Guest PT247 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 is the only shotgun I'd buy at the mo. Any release date yet?
GiantKiwi Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Going to be the first person ever to say this, but.... Meh.
clumpyedge Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I was going to say the same, the video left me very underwhelmed
Supporters Esoterick Posted May 14, 2015 Supporters Posted May 14, 2015 I'd imagine it's just going to be a fun gun, but fairly impractical outside of CQB. It'll probably lead to a lot of butthurt as I've heard enough people complaining after getting shot with my M870 on Abbey Ultra saying it's not fair as that doesn't count as single shot etc.
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted May 14, 2015 Supporters Posted May 14, 2015 I think it's going to be a lot of fun to use, but it's only .6J from what I've read about it, that's like 255fps? So it won't be very competitive in an outdoor environment, and in CQB you won't be able to use full auto. To me that kinda nullifies the whole purpose of it. If you can only use it on semi at 250fps then even in CQB I'd rather have a pump action with a bit more oomph because side stepping shots at that speed isn't remotely difficult, even at 20 or so metres, and at that price point I'd want something a bit more interesting to look at... 'cos it's just a box really. I like being able to fiddle with controls, bolt locks, releases, charging handles, sexual metallic noises etc etc.It's looking set to be into the £400 bracket too, probably higher because it's a big sensationalist thing and the UK retailers are rip off merchants. If I get the chance to have a go, I'm not going to turn it down. But I wouldn't even entertain the idea of buying one. I see it more as a successful technical exercise. Now they need to adapt it, improve it, and make it fit into more platforms - Namely an M1014.
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted May 14, 2015 Supporters Posted May 14, 2015 Who's gonna bight the bullet? Trick question, right? Haha. #BlackDeath
geoffreym Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Hate to say this, but I'll probably wait a year from release, see if there are any clones on the horizon, and then decide whether to buy the TM one or the clone, as I'm a bit worried about the, potentially, totally proprietary gearbox which won't be able to handle stronger springs, as realistically I'd want at least 300fps. But the idea looks awesome.
TacMaster Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I'd wait for a GBB one, it shouldn't be too difficult to design and manufacture
RiseOfTheDerp Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 To be honest, at the price it will probably be sold at, there isn't much point in getting it. You could get a lot of much more powerful guns with much better customisation available. I'm going with Airsoft-Ed on this one. Let this just be the basic design, when work on making it better. And preferably cheaper
shortman Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I am the only person who doesnt realy like the look of it? Is a bit fugly realy tbh
RiseOfTheDerp Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I am the only person who doesnt realy like the look of it? Is a bit fugly realy tbh Yeah, I agree. It's just a box with a sight
Supporters M_P Posted May 14, 2015 Supporters Posted May 14, 2015 To be honest, at the price it will probably be sold at, there isn't much point in getting it. You could get a lot of much more powerful guns with much better customisation available. I'm going with Airsoft-Ed on this one. Let this just be the basic design, when work on making it better. And preferably cheaper You can say that about most guns though but then we'd all end up with combat machines and the like. That's the price we pay for new systems in new guns- and in this case, one that people have been asking for for years. Even if it doesn't sell all that well over here they'll sell out in Japan instantly anyway so it's win/win. TM sell loads and people get the gun they've wanted forever
RiseOfTheDerp Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 You can say that about most guns though but then we'd all end up with combat machines and the like. That's the price we pay for new systems in new guns- and in this case, one that people have been asking for for years. Even if it doesn't sell all that well over here they'll sell out in Japan instantly anyway so it's win/win. TM sell loads and people get the gun they've wanted forever Fair enough.
Guest PT247 Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 trouble is, in Japan the max fps is 270 ish iirc, so this will be very skirmishable there. If it can handle 350 fps with a spring upgrade then it could be awesome over here!
Supporters jcheeseright Posted May 15, 2015 Supporters Posted May 15, 2015 Awesome concept, probably very technically clever too. It'll be a beast in really close CQB, but for anything else I don't see it being all that useful.
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted May 15, 2015 Supporters Posted May 15, 2015 Forgive my total noobish ignorance but at first glance of post I thought at last a proper AK12 I know jack about models especially if it ain't a CM - lol I'm sure somebody did their own similar looking drum mofo thingy just like this (sure it was somebody in europe eg: france perhaps ??? and wasn't so keen on it then and not so keen on it now - it just ain't my cuppa tea can't see me with it but totally understand it would be one heck of a gun/shotgun for the higher end peeps out there don't matter what anybody thinks in the end - if the potential owner likes it and can afford why gives a f*ck what me or anybody else thinks anything new is good news - creative new ideas & concepts/designs is what keeps us humans ever moving forward
Sacarathe Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Forgive my total noobish ignorance but at first glance of post I thought at last a proper AK12 I know jack about models especially if it ain't a CM - lol I'm sure somebody did their own similar looking drum mofo thingy just like this (sure it was somebody in europe eg: france perhaps ??? and wasn't so keen on it then and not so keen on it now - it just ain't my cuppa tea There is a link to it on one of the first two pages of the MAS grenade thread.
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted May 15, 2015 Supporters Posted May 15, 2015 There is a link to it on one of the first two pages of the MAS grenade thread. gave up searching the post and just found it via good ol' googley:
Sacarathe Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 gave up searching the post and just found it via good ol' googley: Sorry, I was posting from not my usual (a very unfamiliar) computer, link is here: http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/26166-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/?p=195948
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