Sitting Duck

No excuse then to call your hits as they say think ya back is one place that stings a bit - hurts even more if its your own team.... "oh sorry m8" "Ouch ffs" under your breath you are saying - "Sorry - f*cking will be if ya do that again" soz - bit bored

Technically a UK ukara'd m8 could import them for you - NO I AIN'T OFFERING !!!! But if you could find a trusted local UK airsoft member they "could" import if push really comes to shove But it is a little risky so there would have to be 201% trust on both sides then they "gift" your guns back But it is a major bollock ache for anybody but a fellow airsofter/army m8 you really know & trust tbh Soz - not trying to deliberately avoid or bypass the vcra but is an option to perhaps look into Maybe some of your old m8's might be into it if you look them up ??? To be fair though, look into amount of duty to be paid if keeping it all above board Times we have imported from stateside we have been clobbered by Royal Mail & customs crap but feel if you declare in effect s/hand aeg's with receipts ( much cheaper in US btw ) then a couple of s/hand guns wouldn't be a massive amount of value - heck get somebody to write out a receipt for one or two broken guns even and pay even less Suppose you could be the courier delivering them to a registered ukara member but dunno if that would wash But at least you are trying to explore legal requests and attempting to do it above board or being open about it And no - don't ask me - soz If you can provide proof of you skirmishing stateside and you being honest & open I feel you got half a chance

ooh you going for the 2-tone black/tan look or you got a DE metal receiver now (like the 2-tone black/tan look myself)

I tend to think you may have been very very lucky rather than myself/undying being extremely unlucky maybe he got a good working mp40 in a deal but reckon other guns may have been patched up & sold on quickly

it is the earlier orange Viper G36 if you look at viper g36 really closely you will see the plastic gearbox and gears plus the lame motor too what makes these cheapo guns bad is you aresort of screwed if they go wrong - and they will coz they are cheaply made Normally on "proper" aeg's you can easily open them up - not so on many cheapo guns coz they are screwed/glued together In other words they ain't designed to be opened up - I'd say at least 50 to 75% cheapo's come in two halves right down centre and you have to open it all up just to get to box/barrel/hop units - often flash hiders are glued on rather than screwed on so if you do masnage to open them up - some stuff will likely break and/or the screws into the plastic halves will strip the plastic yup you can use a slightly bigger self tapping screw but you kinda see these cheapo guns really are not to be messed with much OK you got the thing apart - hang on a sec........ Now you find that some parts may not be Tokyo Marui compatible like most proper aeg's are built (some TM compatible spares may need a tiny tweak/file to fit in some guns but in general these parts will fit in proper aeg's) Often them cheapo guns use numerous bespoke parts - similar but different to the normal run of mill aeg's Yes some bits can be mad to fit or work with some modding but only if you have real time/workshop/love a challenge often you may find proper gearbox/motor/hop/barrel may need a bit of work or just won't go in there properly - poxy things They use weaker motors, weaker springs, lower power, and them plastic gears will strip to shreds in the end F*ck knows why they couldn't put in a cheapo alloy metal gear set in there for a few quid more - not steel CNC set just a cheap alloy ffs Plus if you need to adjust motor - oh wait you can't on d68 or change hop/barrel you gotta rip her apart all over again in 2 halves BUT - it probably puts out 240/50 on 0.20's which is more than an electric pistol or AEP but way below a proper AEG you might encounter A real pro could still kick my a$$ with a d68 but if you are like me - you would really need a decent budget £100 to £150 type gun It is fine for plinking - and ok at a push for cqb but going up against a 350fps or a 450fps sniper at woodland sites - yeah best of luck You G36 or D68 is not bad in ya garden hitting stuff reliably at say 50 to 60ft perhaps but that is probably wher power/range accuracy starts to end Now if your woodland aeg opponent can shoot you at twice that distance........ All that you will be able to do is try to not get the hump at being owned so easily In cqb/buildings you won't be at such a major disadvatage with overall performance - well yeah you will but nowhere as much as woodland Like I say it is a low end gun - I bought one & a B500A1 plus another couple of makes too from BB sites Then I stumbled across this place, got ukara'd understood the massive difference with a G&G M4 - really best M4 starter guns you get or JG 608 or Cyma AK CM028 series They are your next step up of guns if you think you wanna stick with it.... find a cqb, see if you can scrape by then on your next purchase you will fully understand what we mean saying them D68's are $hit is a bit harsh they are fine for real beginners/kids but a JG-608 is what most hire guns are coz they are sooooooooooooo much better G&G M4, JG G36 or Cyma AK's There are others - ICS, SRC plus others but imho & probably most on here willtend to agree on the above 3 makes as very wise investments (actually avoid SRC no way as good as G&G - ICS are nice but I love my G&G's more) EDIT - forgot fire rate: D68 aprox 8 or 9 rounds per second Vs AEG at double or triple that rate (most fire at 15-20 or up to 30 if beefed up a bit) yes you could do ok and not quite as bad as a pizza delivery boy trying to win Isle of Mann TT race but still at a major disadvantage (cqb - a fair bit at closer range is at single shot or semi only so not too bad for ya gun)

find a cqb and you won't be at a big loss or disadvantage get ukara'd and a proper G36 can be had for about £85 from TaiwanGun

YUP - f*cking carrier bags was my gun delivery one end came off showing the front barrel but RM must have plopped it back on well safe and good way to avoid suspicion ffs yeah that sounds like same seller to me A++ & all that crap wooo hoooo - my one thousand post - talking about dodgy sellers - just great SOZ - but if this creates crap again - to hell with it..... c'mon we need to put in place a min of say 250 posts or something (one forum I was on different hobby, had to have a min 1k posts to sell on PS3Hax Forum) There was times some peeps have come on to sell but have been able to prove/supply good ebay feedback Otherwise - well you can guess the possible results Yes it is buyer's responsibility to check blah blah blah...but if no min requirements - even a few basic ones like even 100 posts ffs this will show they are on here and may be able to contact them to resolve issues Otherwise this forum is washing it hands and "could" be seen to turn a blind eye to it Buyers responsibility & all that - yeah but ffs at least make it a little more difficult for some sellers Soz mods - not having a go but think perhaps we need to have a vote/poll on this and go with results let majority decide if a min post count might help Anyone not of that level can either provide valid reference or something Or we can just let anybody join up and sell bodged up pieces of crap not fitting to the description Yeah what a great 1,00th post ffs soz if any of this offends but feel I had to say it

True but he got a couple of bits from a £150 mystery box from BBG4Less and is looking to skirmish with the D68....... If he eases up a bit, find a cqb and do 3 visits scraping by with D68 then he can save on rental and with 3 x rental £25's be halfway to getting a better gun if he gets bitten by the bb bug

Lets just say a R85 from Ireland didn't quite arrive in the condition I expected mainly down to packing - F*ck all and I think he liked to buy up broken guns and "fix" - ahem bits not quite intact and it locked with something rattling inside box - bargain got a few quid knocked off but still a bad taste in my mouth So yeah I feel ya pain as did a few others on here and though I said we need a min post count to sell which stirred up a bin here briefly I think a few knew he was selling iffy guns to peeps not quite ukara'd yet thus very little comeback We kind of resolved it so I chose not to leave feedback, but a little later somebody else had more serious problems I dunno how people can sell off stuff that is pi$$ poor - but plenty do in this world (my own law is if it is crap - it is scrapped, just not worth hassle selling on crappy stuff) Alas - not everybody has the same levels of integrity I guess

Socom - but re regged ??

He ain't gonna be going to Dartford Sandpit with a WELL D68..... They say no 2-tone or clear guns - but more to point he will get shot to $hit out there Somebody find him a CQB site in Kent maybe ???

As said D68 or bad G36 - only at cqb it will hit aprox 300fps on 0.12's & 250fps on 0.20'g bb's fine for back garden target or plinking as they say but out on woodland sites you won't have the range at cqb and close range engagements you can scrape by and maybe use .12's that they might feel ok but as most run with some gear on they may not feel the lighter pellets at range especially (plus lighter bb's will be really all over the place with a fart of wind hence cqb sites for the very low end plinkers) Yes you could go to woodland but bright orange is massive give away, low power means you are at disadvantage you will get picked off if they catch a glimpse - yeah bright orange - may as well buy a hi-vis vest too CQB - camo don't mean much so hi-vis low power gun would get ya by as most engagements will be shorter range If you can - go to a cqb site, try it out, speak to a few regulars and they may show you what a "proper" aeg is like if you can stick out a few visits with d68 you will be on ya way to ukara then get a more decent JG-608 G36 or Cyma AK or G&G M4 Don't worry - most of us have bought these plinkers - it ain't a bad gun plinking wise but low power plastic gearbox with plastic gears means low power but still ok for 1st time GARDEN plinking

G&G GC16 MOD0 30th Edition - that's it for my G&G collection Deffo the better 30th edition model - sturdy front handguard/battery compartment with rail on top Even the front sight is easily removed which I didn't notice before ordering Very happy as got a little bonus from work to buy this with - no not a banker but just over a weeks extra profit share Yup she is a nice looking gun indeed - not even fired her yet but happy to add her to my G&G family

uhm - shotgun maybe ??? not sure just how quiet the cocking might be but suppose you could always slam fire it or wtf - just get a fishing/baiting catapult - load with bb's, burst in room unleash silent hell - job done Actually that could be a fun thing to have if ya getting owned or half the enemy team are closing in ya "Have some of them bb apples !!!!" Yeah kinda illegal site wise and most deffo way over 350fps if pulled right back etc..... But would be kinda funny to do........ "Think there is just one of them left guys, lets light him up and finish this quickly....." TWANG - "$HIT - hit hit hit hit hit hit hit - JEEEEZ THERE MUST BE 12 OF THEM LEFT" (yeah I got a wicked sense of humour sometimes)

Hmmmmmm - well if cleaning don't work try cleansing or if still no joy at a push try polishing maybe :)

Clean it - getting running nice as possible and get to KNOW YOUR GUN By that I mean - understand what you CAN hit and what you CAN'T hit You will NOT out-range a bolt action sniper or a £450+ AEG, so live with it You learn what and when you engage and what you avoid - picking your battles accordingly If you get owned by snipers then avoid those areas or hang back at base/built up areas or go to cqb sites Only reason I'm saying this is that people think they can hit past 200ft with AEG's no problem - yeah right 100 to 150ft is most likely what most players may be hitting in real terms despite people thinking that target @ 60m - wow this gun is good, is really 40m when PROPERLY measured Its a toy gun, yes some toys can shoot better & further than others but that takes time & money tweaking etc... AND they have to be cleaned/maintained to achieve that sort of optimum performance I'm sure it will improve with a bit of cleaning and once you got to know your gun a bit more you will understand and no doubt will be able to engage targets more consistently within your gun's range

Daft questions............. Short or Long Raider, have you cleaned barrel & tweaked hop up ??? Also you say 305 with .20's - that isn't too bad yet, when it drops below 300 then maybe service the box but fine for moment TM's don't shoot much higher but are dogz nutz they say - just pointing that out to prove you don't HAVE TO open up box .25's "can" be a bit qwirky, I bought some .25's and they are just $hit in all guns I tried - so bad I mainly stick to 0.20's (them .25's just don't fire consistently - about 1 in 5 ya get a "jimmy" that fires at like 200fps and goes anywhere it wants) Just saying - don't assume it is the gun, try a few different bb's before you strip the gun down Clean the barrel - alcohol wipes or white spirit on tissue in jamming rod don't use silicone - that is last resort and if you get on rubber bucking you will have to strip hop/bucking down to clean Clean barrel - really helps no end Order up another rubber if still no joy - then take time to check clean all hop/barrel etc.... (should still be a tiny spring on front of hop up - check that is still there) "Generally speaking" - accuracy/grouping & range is due to hop/bucking/barrel area, fps & smooth operation is ya box area The reason I'm pointing it out is you can easily start messing with stuff that is in fact quite ok Clean barrel - try other bb's first and enlighten us as to what exact range are seeking/expecting: 30/40/50/60/70/80/90/100metres - ahhhh c'mon it ain't a sniper ffs Also would point out that that a good clean set hop/barrel will perform & also fps will improve too Bad or worn/split hop with crap seal will lose fps along with dirty barrel etc.... Though to be fair a s/hand CM16 like most guns you would expect to lose aprox 10% in 6 months All springs loose a little tension so 330fps new G&G hitting now 305 is about right and to be expected the accuracy/range improvement is gonna be in the barrel/hop/rubber area.... Take it from somebody who has bollox'd a few guns "steaming in" to replace stuff that don't need replacing Same as feed issues - must be nozzle/tappet - NOPE often some mags and maybe some bb's are just crap So try another mag often helps/solves feed issues I have found out the hard way Same as your accuracy/range - would reckon it just needs a clean and maybe try some different bb's before you go nutz If it is firing consistently and smoothly the box is fine - power is F*ck all if you got no control/consistent range/grouping/control of bb's (Again TM's are firing at 300 which highlights that power is not the be all & end all we often think it is)

Lipo's have the edge, 7.4v with a deans connector will give you good performance Probably a rating of 20C or 25C if price/size is good 1300+ Would maybe advise getting 2 x Lipo's - especially if you buy the 15C (would say 20C min myself) Do not go for 11.1v lipo - stay at 7.4v - they perform great compared to 8.6v nimah's If you fit a deans on there it will give an extra tiny bit of oomph & response - but don't go higher than 7.4v ffs (or you need to fit to fit mosfet etc.....) Maybe stick to a nunchuck battery type lipo as though a few "block" batteries may fit up front in handguard you would probably be better/safer to get the twin stick nunchuck type to fit in the compartment & wrap around outer barrel etc... length of sticks would probably be 100 - 125mm max I reckon but I don't have the CM16 carbine - this is a GUESS !!! Best speak to component shop or maybe another member like Team Flex can enlighten us as to what Lipo's he used in his carbine Like I say I can't offer you an exact model to get but I think 7.4v lipo nunchuck may be best type of battery to get Nunchuck or Crane stock batteries are the popular type for airsoft - though some guns/stocks can use almost any type of battery But with your choice - CM Carbine - think nunchuck is what you seek with its twin stick layout 100-125mm length & aprox 18 to 20mm in diameter/square - do not go over this as fitting may be very tight This is just a rough rough guide though please double check any battery will fit BEFORE you purchase it - or ask around (Team Flex ??)

I'm still 12yrs old just trapped in a 47 - soon to be 48 year old body

tracer wiring aside...... is the actual hop unit much better or about the same and you just paying for name & tracer option ???

TWG & GF have recently put up the free shipping Also their prices have risen too..... GF - is crap atm - they did some great deals in Jan obviously they wanted buyers to vote for them to win best retailer 5th year running Well it worked but atm their prices are more expensive than TWG But TWG shot their prices up in Jan anyway Some of this is probably down to pi$$ poor £ to $ exchange rate plus the £ to Euro rate is very good so stuff does kinda seem cheap but again most crap is bought/sold worldwide in $$$$$ - so people in France must be really feeling it TWG & GF are - or rather was really great for cheaper stuff: Cyma AK's, JG G36's, basic bolt snipers, some pistols But TWG don't do G&G & though GF sell them they are more expensive than UK Maybe those 2 cheapo places buy in massive bulk from them china gun makers and can get great discounts Where as in UK most retailers don't sell so many cheapo china makes and stick to G&G & ICS etc..... Like I said only UK retailers that can stump up decent amounts of working capital to fund say 100+ G&G's can get a good deal May not sound like much but if you take an "average" buy in cost of £100 x 100 - that's 10 grand !!!!!! compare that to say cheapo china guns at say £50 = £5,000 I think also Poland has 23% vat tax so I don't think it is down to UK import/taxing structures too much Just think most of the time many will take a chance on buying cheapo guns but if there isn't much in it then most of us will buy from home - especially if paying say £200+ on a gun that should work very well out of box Well that is my take on it anyway..... I also think UK retailers will prefer to sell G&G's ICS that perhaps might be built a little better than some china guns plus these will come in at correct UK fps limits - so less messing about for them downgrading spring etc.... Not saying cyma or jg are crap - they are quite good indeed but often may need a tweak to be ok for UK sites Perhaps UK retailers could get good discounts on Cyma/JG's but again that is if they can stump up the capital When they know say a G&G M4 will sell no problem - so is perhaps a safer investment/bet for them I have reached a point where I nigh on have most of the guns I could possibly desire for the next year or two but I am a bit pi$$ed at GF no longer doing free ship on £50 orders That wasn't a bad idea to grab a few spares, bits & accessories each month and get some nice bits for £50 alas that has gone and price rise means atm it ain't as good as it was a few months ago So I am left at present just having a swap around and make do with a fair few box of bits/upgrade/parts for now Zero One are great - but shipping is dearer than LWA but ZO 2-tone free and all that for newcomers Zero One - never had a problem - well they sent something incorrectly ordered - but was fully refunded LWA - well they messed up my first RIF order but got from Pro Airsoft so all worked out ok in the end Fire Support - another great place to buy from - not the cheapest and though I never had a problem, I have heard their customer support is second to none from a few on here I will continue to buy from any place if the price is right and they have the stock I prefer to buy local but as always try & keep my eye out for any decent savings elsewhere Don't think there is one best all round retailer at home or abroad - the prices have started to rise overseas I just wonder how long before some of those price rises start to take effect over here at UK retailers ????

At best cutting a barrel down is perhaps a temp measure to see if it all shoots ok still with shorter barrel If all ok and no bad drop in performance then look out for a decent one "properly" manufactured to size especially if you can get a reasonable decent barrel for £15 to £20 that should perform better than most DIY ones

Try still waiting for a delivery a whole month after posting from far east Think it has landed in UK a few days ago but if it don't arrive real soon... I think all I will get is letter demanding import tax from robbing RM bastids

TWG are usually a couple of days quicker than GunFire TWG = 300 Euro for free shipping - no paypal charge GunFire 175 Euro for free shipping - does have paypal surcharge Evike & Airsoft GI ship to UK but you will get shafted by UK Customs tax TWG & GF will go through fine as long as you provide UKARA (they don't sell 2-tone stuff) TWG & GF were cheaper and did free shipping for 69 Euro orders but prices have risen since Jan along with free shipping - otherwise its about £12 aprox Good for China guns & parts (if in stock), but G&G's are cheaper in UK I found

Yeah but would you really have wanted the fast track route and be one of those many people who can talk it but haven't a f*cking clue how to walk it so to speak..... I'm sure with all your years & wisdom you are helping out or showing these graduates how it really rolls in real world Got loads of them upstairs and yup they got degree in graphical design & layout say and yet they seemed to have failed the 11+ in common sense ffs It is a tough call - one I really don't know what I would if I had to choose today I look back and know I have been fortunate with breaks & oppotunities - many have not University Of Life - now that is a great Uni and I am still learing - ain't we all